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Windows 8 Died at Launch, Microsoft Moves on to Windows 9
The Daily Caller ^ | 7/28/2014 | Andy Patrizio

Posted on 07/28/2014 4:25:25 PM PDT by markomalley

Microsoft attempted something different and daring with Windows 8. It introduced a whole new interface and means of interaction with your PC that was identical to a smartphone or tablet. It threw out the “Start” menu and mouse-driven interface people had used for decades in favor of a touch-driven interface with tiles, some of which received active information updates.

And people hated it.

“They tried to get their entire audience to jump from a UI [user interface] they were comfortable with to a brand new one with a serious learning curve,” California-based Creative Strategies tech analyst and president Tim Bajarin said. “Had they done a more transitionary product, especially keeping the Start button, I don’t think the impact and perception would have been as bad.”

By removing the Start button, which had been a Windows fixture since Windows 95, Microsoft wasn’t just introducing a new way of using the operating system — it was trying to force people away from the only one they had known for two decades.

The result was that Windows 8 was slaughtered in the court of public opinion, often compared to the much-maligned Windows Vista released in 2006. It was an incorrect comparison; Vista was a technological hairball, a truly awful piece of software that often failed when people tried to install it on their PCs.

Windows 8 was technically sound. No one complained of crashing, slow performance or old apps not working on it. People noted it was actually a tad faster than Windows 7, they just hated how it looked. The result was slow sales for Windows 8, but Windows 7, the OS it was supposed to replace, kept selling like hotcakes.

“Its distinguishing feature was support for touchscreens but also legacy applications,” Endpoint Technologies President Roger Kay said. Endpoint is a Boston-based market research firm. “It ended up being a Frankenstein. So the good parts, like being a little faster and more reliable and more secure were almost totally invisible to the end user. So you could tell people it was faster and more reliable and they said ‘I don’t know how to use it.’”

Kay said the beating Windows 8 took in the tech press hurt, but users also hated it. Microsoft released a public beta for anyone to download and use on February 29, 2012, and released the product in October, 2012. During that time, in all the public Windows forums, “consumers were gnashing their teeth and stomping their feet about it. It was vilified in public forums,” Kay said.

The old guard who came up with Windows 8 and refused to listen to beta testers are gone and Microsoft has more or less given up trying to rescue its slandered OS. There will be another significant update to Windows 8.1 (called Update 2) later this year. After that, the new management are focusing their efforts on Windows 9.

Windows 9, which Microsoft internally calls “Threshold,” should ship around the second quarter of 2015. It will put the Windows 8 interface on the back burner but not throw it out, since applications written for Windows 8 would be broken. The familiar desktop with the Start button will be back.

Bajarin expects Windows 9 will return all of the familiar elements of Windows 7 and prior operating systems, with the new UI relegated to the back burner while new features are added to bring people forward.

“I don’t think it will be radical at all,” Bajarin said. ”I think they will make it easier to work with user interfaces of the past and provide better transition for those with older operating systems to come into this era.”

That could include tighter cloud services integration. One feature widely rumored but not confirmed by Microsoft is that it will offer seamless, tight cloud integration into the OS. Your OneDrive storage will be as easy to access as the “C: drive,” so all of your documents, personal files, photos, etc. will go right to the cloud without having to think about it.

Apps might also be potentially stored in the cloud as well. Say you log on to another Windows 9 PC using your login and password –not only will your data files be accessible from your cloud storage, but also the apps you use.

Kay expects more cloud-oriented features as well.

“It would be good to move to a cloud-oriented OS to do updates more frequently and keep the OS alive,” Kay said. “That way you would check in to the cloud at login but run locally, so you could work anywhere.”

He also doesn’t expect Windows 9 to be a major departure from the operating systems of old.

“You’d expect them to do more in order to justify all of the effort of creating a new OS other than fixing the old one. There will be a lot of it will be bells and whistles, but a lot of that stuff tends to fall into Who-Cares? territory,” Kay said.

Another rumored addition to Windows 9 is Cortana — the digital voice assistant currently being rolled out to Windows Phone users. Cortana is like the iPhone’s Siri: ask it a question and it fetches the proper contextual answer. Microsoft has made comments in recent weeks about bringing Cortana to Windows PCs, and Windows 9 would be the most logical candidate to get its own answer to J.A.R.V.I.S.

At this point, it’s all speculation, but one thing is for certain: Microsoft needs to get Windows 9 right. Kay noted that Microsoft has had only one good operating system in its last three releases over the last eight years. Windows 7 (2009) was good, while Vista (2006) and Windows 8 (2012) were bad.

“Those are not good odds for software. Maybe for blackjack, but not operating systems. I would love for [Windows 9] to work great and do the right thing, but they are one for three in recent releases. So I’m a bit cynical,” Kay said.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: fail; windows; windows7; windows8; windows9
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Windows 8 was the best thing that ever happened to Linux.
1 posted on 07/28/2014 4:25:25 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Was it the same people that did the obamacare website?


2 posted on 07/28/2014 4:27:14 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: markomalley

“New Coke.”


3 posted on 07/28/2014 4:27:58 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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MSFT's next desktop OS mistake could be their last.
4 posted on 07/28/2014 4:29:00 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: markomalley

Microsoft should go back and use Windows XP for a base...so people can use their own programs and tap into new stuff.


5 posted on 07/28/2014 4:31:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley

On my kvm switch are:
winXP, win7, win8.1, and a ubuntu box.

Gotta keep up with everything.


6 posted on 07/28/2014 4:32:19 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: markomalley

I have Win 7 at home and Win 8 on my work laptop. I find them both to work great. I had no problem switching to W8 and do not understand the problem others are having. IMHO it’s become sort of a custom to badmouth every other Windows release and quite a few of these people are just jumping on the bandwagon.


7 posted on 07/28/2014 4:33:45 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: markomalley

My company is poised to migrate (to Win-8) right around the release of Windows 13 ;’)


8 posted on 07/28/2014 4:34:45 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: markomalley

I’ll go to the new O/S when it comes out as Warp 9.5


9 posted on 07/28/2014 4:35:24 PM PDT by mikrofon (With a nod to OS/2...)
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To: markomalley

Had my new Sony laptop for work and it crashed, called Sony and when the tech answered, his first comment was: are you calling because your computer crashed? MS sent out an update last night and crashed Windows 8 all around the world. After 2 more crashed, I had Windows 7 installed and not one problem since.
MS: Stop fixing something that isn’t broke!


10 posted on 07/28/2014 4:36:19 PM PDT by conservativesister
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I wonder if I'll be able to run Windows 9?



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11 posted on 07/28/2014 4:36:24 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: softwarecreator

I didn’t care for Win-8 until I found Classic Shell start menu. I haven’t had any problems with it otherwise.


12 posted on 07/28/2014 4:36:31 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: markomalley

sound like brain dead ppl are still working at MS. We don’t want a transition to that garbage of a windows 8 interface for windows 9. Everyone been telling MS that windows 8 was UGLY months before release! They didn’t listen


13 posted on 07/28/2014 4:37:08 PM PDT by 4rcane
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What is the best non windows operating system? I am trying to get my old XP going again and my nest new puter will probably not be the same old stuff, broken windows. I like HP but this may be my last one. W8 was a mess and W8.1 screwed the whole system up and did not load. It won't even connect to the internet now. Nice going windows.
14 posted on 07/28/2014 4:37:22 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I second that


15 posted on 07/28/2014 4:38:23 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: markomalley
As long as it does not contribute to global warming, allows undocumented users galore, will merge (wed) with Apple or Linux, and has no racial overtones then it should be a God (oooops Allah) send.

I am very happy with 8.1 but it was a mess to get it the way I liked XP. Now if they would only allow me to hack into the Powerball?????

16 posted on 07/28/2014 4:38:52 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: markomalley

Yeah.

It’s usage went from nothing to nothing and a half.

just another one of those articles that mirrors the “death of the Tea Party” cliche.

Windows 8 is supposedly so terrible, so little used, and so hated, these nerds have to keep repeating it every month because reality isn’t playing along.


17 posted on 07/28/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: softwarecreator

>>IMHO it’s become sort of a custom to badmouth every other Windows release and quite a few of these people are just jumping on the bandwagon.<<

I am an ultra-techie and I can’t stand W8. I just run it in W7 mode and pray the whole damn screen doesn’t fill up (meaning I tripped a W8 landmine in an application).

W8 sucks the sucked sucker.


18 posted on 07/28/2014 4:42:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: softwarecreator
Windows 8 won't even hook up to the internet now. Trying to get the 8.1 update was worse than getting a virus. It is good that yours works and you like it. When a greedy company has to change its product regularly to sell new stuff and say we will under no circumstances help with the old stuff because we want to make money on a new one, it is time to step back and look for something else.
19 posted on 07/28/2014 4:42:22 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: markomalley

“The old guard who came up with Windows 8 and refused to listen to beta testers are gone and Microsoft has more or less given up trying to rescue its slandered OS.”

Hallelujah! Hopefully the departing ‘old guard’ include the idiots who came up with the Office Ribbon, the Outlook.com interface, and other recent MS UI nightmares.

MS was never the best company when it came to design, but at least they applied a fairly consistent and intuitive UI standard to their products, until a few years ago. They really need to get back to focusing on their strong suits instead of trying to be something they are not.


20 posted on 07/28/2014 4:43:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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