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Son 'did what had to be done,' kills man attacking mother in their N. Minn. home
StarTribune.com ^ | 7/28/14 | Paul Walsh

Posted on 07/28/2014 6:41:38 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

A Twin Cities man, already bloodied from one home invasion in far northern Minnesota, repeated the crime down the highway minutes later and attacked a 72-year-old woman before the victim’s son stepped in — saying he “did what had to be done” — and fatally shot the suspect, authorities said Monday.

The shooting occurred about 6 a.m. Saturday outside the house along Hwy. 53, roughly 4 miles east of Ray, Minn., according to the Koochiching County Sheriff’s Office.

“I’m the son who did what had to be done,” said Brad Himes, 48, who came to the rescue of his mother, Ethel, and shot Benjamin Beaudoin, 34, of Mendota Heights with a handgun.

Brad Himes said the family had never before seen Beaudoin, whose was in that part of the state to attending a wedding.

The son said his mother came through the incident fine physically, and “we’re doing the best we can to get by. … Bad things happen. We just want to get over it.”

County Attorney Jeff Naglosky said his office has been briefed about the shooting and declined to say anything more as he awaits investigatory reports from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the St. Louis County medical examiner’s office.

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TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; drt; selfdefense
The son will probably face no charges. In Minneapolis, it might be a different story, as the perp was unarmed. And now we find that he was mentally ill, as well.

The son REALLY needs to shut his mouth. He's already said too much to the authorities and it may come back to bite him.

1 posted on 07/28/2014 6:41:38 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If I came in and found someone assaulting my elderly Mom, they would die too.


2 posted on 07/28/2014 6:44:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

But I know that you are smart enough to say nothing to the authorities that would be repeated in the press.


3 posted on 07/28/2014 6:47:22 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: Jeff Head

“They?” Both the intruder and your elderly mom? It would be better if just the intruder paid the ultimate price for his actions. The mindset of someone who would kill both is that of a Moslem.


4 posted on 07/28/2014 6:48:41 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Beaudoin is “not the kind of guy who would go around attacking anybody, let alone some old lady,”

Unfortunately for everyone involved the facts show otherwise.

5 posted on 07/28/2014 6:49:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Ray, MN where the Hoot Owls mate with the Chickens, Roosters or Hens makes no difference —— after all it’s Minnasnowta!


6 posted on 07/28/2014 6:50:48 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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To: arthurus

“They” can also be singular when used in such context, but you knew that.


7 posted on 07/28/2014 6:50:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head; ButThreeLeftsDo

Yep, defense of another would work here, all things else being equal, because even an unarmed man could easily kill an elderly woman, and that’s the threshold for responding with lethal force. Proportional response.


8 posted on 07/28/2014 6:51:42 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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9 posted on 07/28/2014 6:52:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Springfield Reformer

“Proportional response.”

Remember, this is Minnesota.


10 posted on 07/28/2014 6:56:00 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: Jeff Head

Backing up a bit...my Mom wouldn’t be the one answering the door.


11 posted on 07/28/2014 6:57:37 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

And soon here comes the local media crying he should have called 911 .... and the son knows that the invader was unarmed and mentally ill. What, he should have the guy fill out a questionnaire before he attacks?????


12 posted on 07/28/2014 7:00:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: SkyDancer

I fully expect something similar...


13 posted on 07/28/2014 7:02:41 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: jazusamo

They’re never “that kind of guy” until they are “that kind of guy”.


14 posted on 07/28/2014 7:04:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

MN people always seem to favor the “downtrodden”, but that does not include victims of crime.


15 posted on 07/28/2014 7:07:47 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I hope the intruder suffered horribly and knew he was dying.


16 posted on 07/28/2014 7:09:38 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Jeff Head
If I came in and found someone assaulting my elderly Mom, they would die too.

Would meet a bloody end swiftly...

17 posted on 07/28/2014 7:17:02 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

In all fairness, it sounds like the invader was clearly insane, and I imagine the medical examiner is going to find some very interesting brain damage, maybe even a tumor, when he cracks open his skull.

And yes, it probably goes back to the “traumatic brain injury” he had as a teen. Severe migraines after a TBI are a major red flag, especially associated with an indeterminate “mental illness” and severe paranoia.

Bottom line: the people who defended themselves are blameless, the home invader likely had no control over his actions either.


18 posted on 07/28/2014 7:26:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

And I would blame his family for letting him out on his own.


19 posted on 07/28/2014 7:31:32 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Benjamin Beaudoin

20 posted on 07/28/2014 7:34:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Big ol’ boy...


21 posted on 07/28/2014 7:36:47 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: tflabo

There should be a “mess with my Mom law” that excuses deadly force.


22 posted on 07/28/2014 7:54:00 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: arthurus

Don’t be an idiot.


23 posted on 07/28/2014 7:54:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: jonrick46

Nice target on his sternum


24 posted on 07/28/2014 7:55:27 PM PDT by joshhiggins
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To: Jeff Head

It is incorrect. It is a construct of the latter-day PC crowd who do not want to “offend” us women by requiring one sex or other when speaking singularly. It does not offend me to assume “he” instead of “they”.


25 posted on 07/28/2014 7:56:51 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Nice shootin’, Tex.


26 posted on 07/28/2014 7:57:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: jonrick46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJyQpAiMXkg


27 posted on 07/28/2014 7:58:20 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Jeff Head
“They” can also be singular when used in such context,

Not in actual English. Only in Leftspeak. The adoption of Leftspeak by conservatives affects their thinking. Words and grammar are the tools by which the brain thinks about things. Turn over the design of words and grammar to the Borg and you gradually lose your ability to think outside their box. You accept their definitions and conventions when you use their shorthand.

When MSM collectively switched the politically symbolic colors, red and blue, conservatives accepted it with hardly a whimper. Now the color designations have lost their meaning altogether. The left's proud use of Red to designate the totalitarian left once told people a lot about certain groups without having to parse speech and listen to all of it to see if it added up. Bit by bit I see the conservatives on FR adopt the patterns prescribed by the Left. The omnisexual "they" is a feminist construction to keep it in our minds that there is NO difference between males and females. I suspect if you reverted to the proper use of pronouns you would feel very uncomfortable not using at least "he/she-him/her" or maybe it should be "she/he"- you don't want the ladies to think you are dissing them.

28 posted on 07/28/2014 8:01:34 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Nervous Tick

Not using language correctly is an indication of sloppy thinking. Using the new forms prescribed by the left is an indication that another front has fallen to the collectivists and they define the words and grammar and you think with their meanings that are subject to change instantly so that what you think you said was muddled from the beginning and becomes its opposite at the next redefinition.


29 posted on 07/28/2014 8:07:22 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

Good for you on the grammar front.

There aren’t many of us remaining up here.

Good communication is the enemy of lies and deception, of course, and indeed of oppression. The other side (Obama and his minions, leftist politicians and judges, the ‘educators’) knows this and has worked for decades now to put us at a disadvantage.

Clear speech and clear thinking are as dangerous to them as any firearm.


30 posted on 07/28/2014 8:11:34 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: arthurus; Jeff Head

>> Not using language correctly is an indication of sloppy thinking.

Of course, the run-on sentence with which you followed that one doesn’t count against *you*. Does it?

Like I said — don’t be an idiot. The poster in no way used the word “they” as a sop to the collectivist left — and you know it. You just enjoy being an arrogant jackass.


31 posted on 07/28/2014 8:11:59 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; Fightin Whitey; arthurus; Jeff Head

Hey, lookie here! Instead of merely taking y’all’s pedantic word for it, I actually RESEARCHED IT! And it seems you’re on somewhat shaky ground:

http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/singular-they-and-the-many-reasons-why-its-correct/

My favorite retort: “Singular they”: God said it, I believe it, that settles it. http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003572.html

Gee, that doesn’t sound all that collectivist leftist to me!


32 posted on 07/28/2014 8:20:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Theodore R.

The downtrodden and the mentally challenged . . . look at their current governor and former U.S.Senator.


33 posted on 07/28/2014 8:31:20 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
As America is deconstructed, it becomes increasingly likely that you will have to shoot someone. In that event, please keep your mouth shut. If you feel you must speak, wait until AFTER your lawyer shows up and and has told you exactly what to say.

Now for the callous part. If you must be the shooter, earnestly try and shoot so the shootee can have nothing to say.

34 posted on 07/28/2014 8:34:51 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Body-builder steroids?


35 posted on 07/28/2014 8:35:52 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Nervous Tick

My inner Grammar Nazi requires me to point out that “Like I said” should be “As I said.” ;)


36 posted on 07/28/2014 8:49:36 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Obviously doctors didn’t catch the problem, so his family probably had some warning signs, but that’s about it. His most obvious symptom was severe migraines. About 6% of American men have migraines (about 18% of women). So it’s not enough.

The paranoia is possibly more diagnostic, but as a condition itself, which could be by itself, or associated with schizophrenia. But that still needs a professional diagnosis early on.

This was probably a bolt from the blue, that nobody saw coming, so nobody did anything to stop it.


37 posted on 07/28/2014 9:03:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Someone did something to stop it. You better believe.


38 posted on 07/28/2014 9:55:49 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“He graduated from Princeton High School, then received an undergraduate degree in psychology from Bemidji State University.”

I’ll bet Deputy Molly Solverson and Officer Gus Grimly will get to the bottom of this...if they don’t shoot each other first.


39 posted on 07/29/2014 4:22:57 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: jonrick46

Obama Voter?


40 posted on 07/29/2014 4:59:00 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Someone had earlier remarked to the effect of “Why didn’t his family control him?” My point was that he probably didn’t appear dangerous or even deranged until all of a sudden when he just went off. And some psychiatric cases can be like that. Little or no warning.

This is why the medical examiner will be examining his brain “with a fine toothed comb”. He could find a tumor, or unusual blood vessel growth, signs of schizophrenic degeneration, small strokes, who knows?

Yes, the families were in the right to defend themselves; but at the same time, their attacker may have been so out of it that he can’t be entirely blamed either.

There is a frustrating point with some mental illness where “the lights are on, but nobody is home”; where they seem rational and sane, but you might as well be talking to a wild animal. The humanity is no longer there, either temporarily or permanently.


41 posted on 07/29/2014 6:20:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Nervous Tick
From Your Dictionary: English Grammar Rules & Usage

Indefinite pronouns are the real troublemakers. These are singular and need singular pronouns: anyone, no one, everyone, someone, anybody, nobody, everybody, somebody, anything, everything, nothing, something, one, each, either, and neither.

A word like “everyone” is treating people as a group, so it is singular. When using “either” or “neither”, it is one or the other, so you are looking at one at a time, so those two words are singular.

.

Above are the guidelines I like to observe.

But don't sweat it, Ticks. Someone like you can knock theirselves (or is it thereselve's?) out all he wants by ignoring any stupid old rules they pleases (please's?).

It's (is it its?) the way of the world now, right? Indeed it puts you in some pretty fine company, including the left-wing pedants at the Chronicle of Higher Ed:

50 Years of Stupid & White

43 posted on 07/29/2014 6:56:52 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: rhoda_penmark

I only made one post. It was to the person who made a grammatical error while criticizing someone else’s grammar. And I ended it with a wink.


44 posted on 07/29/2014 7:31:34 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: arthurus

Well, you can go on and on with your Bravo Sierra. but you know what I meant, I know what I meant, and everyone reading it knew exactly what I said too.

So knock yourself out with your sophistry if you must, I will continue to tell you and anyone else that if someone assaulted my elderly mom, they, meaning that someone, would pay the price.


45 posted on 07/29/2014 4:20:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Nervous Tick

Amen. But this guy knew what was meant...he’s just impressing himself with his own Bravo Sierra. No need for me to engage that any longer.


46 posted on 07/29/2014 4:22:04 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Bad beginning, but a good ending.


47 posted on 07/29/2014 5:16:51 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Remember, this is Minnesota.

Wonder what their Senator would have to say about it?


48 posted on 07/29/2014 5:20:21 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Jeff Head

But do it with non leftist English.


49 posted on 07/29/2014 9:56:12 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

Like I said...not worth the argument.

You clearly believe you are the purveyor of all correctness and somehow want to push it on others. I’ll let the readers and lurkers decide which is behaving “leftists.”


50 posted on 07/30/2014 6:29:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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