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Boy, age 4, has mark of the DEVIL on his chest
malaysia-chronicle ^ | 29 July 2014 | Thesun.co.uk

Posted on 07/28/2014 10:38:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

THE parents of a boy aged four were horrified when a “mark of the Devil” appeared on his chest.

Sharon Lewis and Robby Jones spotted the cross-hair imprint as they got son Samuel ready for bed.

The sinister sign is proving a devil to explain. The imprint has baffled his parents, teachers and even the family's GP.

Shocked Sharon, 37, of Market Drayton, Shrops, said yesterday: “It’s a nightmare. Some people have said it’s the Symbol of Mammon — the sign of the Devil’s first born — which has been very upsetting.

(Excerpt) Read more at malaysia-chronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: britain

1 posted on 07/28/2014 10:38:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The marking stayed on the right of Samuel’s chest for three weeks before finally fading on June 16.

He got better.

2 posted on 07/28/2014 10:43:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I thought it looked like his symbol of membership in The X-Men.


3 posted on 07/28/2014 10:45:19 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

toy gun crosshairs?..held a toy gun to his chest, while he slept.


4 posted on 07/28/2014 10:46:38 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

FFS

The double ring, though incomplete, makes it far more likely that it was caused by a toy, costume, or similar source, that the kid laid on or came in contact with.

Assuming it has some supernatural origin, it’s far more likely to be the very common “Celtic Cross”, rather than the extremely obscure “symbol of Mammon”.


5 posted on 07/28/2014 10:47:34 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Last I checked, it’s not the 11th century.


6 posted on 07/28/2014 10:52:55 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Little Pig

I am not finding prophecy about “mark of Celtic Cross”.


7 posted on 07/28/2014 10:59:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Little Pig

‘Shocked Sharon ... it’s a nightmare ... very upset.’

It really stuned her Berber. This makes her Mammon’s Momma.


8 posted on 07/28/2014 11:11:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives. And `Yertle' McConnell can go pound sand.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Did it look like the obama doohickey?
9 posted on 07/28/2014 11:17:51 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Looks like an x-ray target to me.


10 posted on 07/28/2014 11:31:45 PM PDT by BRK
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t find any prophect that talks about a “mark of mammon” either. In any case, the “mark of mammon” they show in the article has only one circle, so whatever that mark on the kid is, it has nothing to do with the symbol they’re showing.


11 posted on 07/28/2014 11:33:36 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Berlin_Freeper

does mommy have a hair (blow) dryer?


12 posted on 07/29/2014 12:07:28 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: Little Pig
There is prophecy about mark of the beast... doesn't mean this specific mark fills that role but there could be a connection of sorts... if you want to split hairs and further discount this as a "mark of Celtic Cross", which has absolutely no religious reference then good for you... I am not here to convince you of anything.

Personally, I find it interesting that "the Symbol of Mammon — the sign of the Devil’s first born" appears on a child in Britain at a time when the... Church of England will consider getting rid of mention of the devil in its baptismal ritual.

But I am not here to convince you about that either - which at least is making sense "...Assuming it has some supernatural origin..." than your non supported Celtic Cross idea.

13 posted on 07/29/2014 12:12:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Little Pig

The mother in this article said people are telling her... “it’s the Symbol of Mammon — the sign of the Devil’s first born”.

She didn’t say people are telling her... “it’s the Symbol of the Celtic Cross”.

But you are free to keep running interference for Satan... you might want to consider if that is going to work out well for you...


14 posted on 07/29/2014 12:32:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Little Pig
In any case, the “mark of mammon” they show in the article has only one circle, so whatever that mark on the kid is, it has nothing to do with the symbol they’re showing.
Maybe Satan should put a watermark or hologram tamper proof label on it?
15 posted on 07/29/2014 12:47:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Some people”

And some people believe crop circles are made by extraterrestrials.

There’s no historical basis for associating that particular symbol with “Mammon”, so whoever is telling them that is merely ignorant. From what I can tell, that particular symbol was made up for the movie “Constantine”. Furhter, any “personification” of Mammon as an actual being is an artifact of later non-religious works such as “The Faerie Queene” by Spenser, or various later occultists. The Bible uses the word exclusively as a metaphor for worldly wealth and money, not for an actual demon.

But hey, you keep adding things to the Bible that aren’t there. I’m sure you know more than its author did.


16 posted on 07/29/2014 12:53:35 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

Some people of the limited people she has spoken to, as opposed to the zero people who impressed on her that is quite obviously a Celtic Cross.

I am not adding anything, I said the symbol of Mammon at least makes sense from a religious point of view.

Unless you think God owes you the answer to every mystery... tell the next lotto numbers while you are here.


17 posted on 07/29/2014 1:04:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bizarre. Especially considering that mammon is not actually a devil or descended from a devil, or even, The Devil. And also bizarre considering that the mammon mentioned is ‘the mammon of unrighteousness’, which points to there being another kind of mammon. I don’t know what made the Celtic cross mark on her little boy, but I’m willing to hazard that the explanation is more mundane than the internet is helping her with.


18 posted on 07/29/2014 1:16:16 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Little Pig

I at least hope you realize that you utterly failed at telling us why the symbol could be a Celtic Cross while desperately clinging to every angle as to why it can’t possibly be the symbol of Mammon (which people are telling her it was).

Have a nice day Little Pig.


19 posted on 07/29/2014 1:20:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Do keep in mind that the article outright says that the symbol has two concentric circles, not the one shown in the image, so it’s not the same.

Also, I just noticed that the article, in the Malaysia Chronicle, is actually a reprint of an article from the UK tabloid “The Sun”, which has only slightly more credibility than the now-defunct Weekly World News. That puts this story in the same general category as Bat Boy and Space Aliens, IOW total sensationalist crap.


20 posted on 07/29/2014 1:24:03 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Actually, I said it was probably an imprint from a toy. I went on to say that, if it did have some non-mundane origin, it could just as easily *be* the Celtic cross. There’s nothing to exclude that explanation, other than the (apparent) word of “some other people”, who in this case (being from the UK) probably have far more exposure to the movie that symbol came from (Constantine) that to actual Christianity.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 1:26:31 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: OldNewYork
Could be the mark of Mammon, put there by a demon, as in demonic possession. If I were the child's parent, I would watch him very closely and be in contact about it with my church.

In the Bible, Mammon is personified in Luke 16:13, and Matthew 6:24, the latter verse repeating Luke 16:13. In the Greek, Luke 16:9, and Luke 16:11 also personify Mammon.

Early mentions of Mammon appear to stem from the personification in the Gospels, e.g., Didascalia, "Do solo Mammona cogitant, quorum Deus est sacculus"; and Saint Augustine, "Lucrum Punice Mammon dicitur" (Serm. on Mt., ii). Gregory of Nyssa also asserted that Mammon was another name for Beelzebub.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 1:34:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Little Pig
Great, we will take that to mean:
it could just as easily *be* the symbol of Mammon

23 posted on 07/29/2014 1:38:19 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’ll also venture then that Gregory of Nyssa may have been a saint, but was also wrong, or misquoted. You seem to be quoting from wikipedia.

Here it is from Saint Matthew: “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”

Mammon is cognate to the English word money. Some people, even today, make money their false god. But it doesn’t make money bad or good; it’s just money. How the person gets it, or spends it, makes that person bad or good.

If this troubled woman believes the mark has a demonic origin, I agree, she should be in contact with her church. Or, if she doesn’t have one, she can be in contact with the office of exorcism in either the Anglican or Catholic Church in her area.

This is a story from a Malaysian news source, oddly. I’d think a more understandable mark of mammon in England would be a capital L in script with a line through it, rather than something that looks like many Christian crosses even in the un-Celtic country of England.


24 posted on 07/29/2014 1:54:20 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork; Little Pig

I am waiting for Little Pig to come along and chide you for knowing more than a Saint... any moment now.

Or, if it is simply misquoted, you could correct Wikipedia.

Either way, the symbol of Mommon could have been inspired by a demon... your failure to see the forest for the trees doesn’t change that one iota.

This article is actually from the UK...

Boy, age 4, has mark of the DEVIL on his chest
malaysia-chronicle ^ | 29 July 2014 | Thesun.co.uk


25 posted on 07/29/2014 2:20:47 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why is it so important to you that this be of demonic origin? And not even biblically-sound demonic, but ersatz, 19th-century occultist “demonic”?


26 posted on 07/29/2014 2:23:04 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: OldNewYork

BTW, this article is also on DRUDGE REPORT.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 2:28:06 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Little Pig
because it could *be*?

*be*
*be*
*be*

Whatever that was supposed to mean - LoL!

28 posted on 07/29/2014 2:30:40 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Actually went to see “Mark of the Devil” back in the early 70’s. Still wish I had the vomit bag they gave out as a promotional gimmick.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 2:40:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Saints are human, and not infallible. If this saint indeed equated money with the lord of the flies, and was being literal about it, he was wrong. It’s referred to, but not quoted. I can read plain English, which, for what it’s worth, is knowing more than this particular saint.

Are you missing the trees for the forest, then?

I see someone up the thread pointed out that its original UK source is not even as reliable a piece of paper as the local fishwrap, just sensationalism. How close to its page 3 topless woman was this story?

Again, if this mother believes it is a demonic mark, she can call on the Catholic Church’s office of exorcism, and begin praying. The internet doesn’t seem to be helping her.


30 posted on 07/29/2014 2:44:23 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork
Let's put thisnot seeing the forest for the trees to a test.

Here is a little quiz:
Who would be interested in pushing people to worship money as a god?
A) Mary, Mother of Jesus
B) Saint Peter
C) Mommon (another name for Beelzebub)

I am glad we agree better safe than sorry and they should at least contact the Church.

31 posted on 07/29/2014 3:04:54 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: P.O.E.

Did anyone in the theater even use it?

I would be apprehensive about going into the theater because of that. I absolutely cannot be in close proximity to someone who is vomiting.


32 posted on 07/29/2014 3:14:19 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I think we should end this argument before you’re led to do worse than argue from false premises, like that mammon, or a foreign word that in English can be represented by the word money or wealth, is a ‘who’; or before you appear to be supporting your argument by repeating your argument, rather than addressing a challenge to your argument, namely that the assertion about Gregory of Nyssa’s statement lacks the quote relating money to the lord of the flies.

She should seek competent spiritual help, rather than rely on internet demonologists. Perhaps when this boy is older he will get the tattoo of a Celtic cross right where this mark appeared, and then show it to his mother, and they’ll both laugh about it.


33 posted on 07/29/2014 3:17:11 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

No, it was pretty gruesome in spots, especially for its day. I’m sure there’s a lot worse movies out there now, but at the time it was the thing to go see.

We went it thinking it would be a goof, kind of like the William Castle movies of the 50’s & 60’s, but it wasn’t really any fun at all.


34 posted on 07/29/2014 3:18:52 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: OldNewYork

Good day to you sir... with your arrogant stuck-in-mud unsupported failed logic.

“logic”

Thank you for not wasting even more of my time.


35 posted on 07/29/2014 3:24:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There it is.


36 posted on 07/29/2014 3:26:10 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

as matters what people call Satan from one country to the next... one room to the next...LoL!


37 posted on 07/29/2014 3:29:36 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: OldNewYork

As if it matters...


38 posted on 07/29/2014 3:30:40 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Stupid superstition.


39 posted on 07/29/2014 4:16:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I am wondering if the mother of the child has the mark of 15 Minutes of Fame.


40 posted on 07/29/2014 4:44:23 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Idiots!


41 posted on 07/29/2014 6:11:23 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Bigg Red

Yea, LOL.


42 posted on 07/29/2014 6:15:43 AM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: I want the USA back

43 posted on 07/29/2014 6:36:35 AM PDT by Holdem Or Foldem (Life isn't fair, so wear a cup.)
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To: Bigg Red

I’d say she should just keep him away from toasters.


44 posted on 07/29/2014 6:38:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bone disorder? Then maybe it has something to do with an x-ray. My wife had a strange pattern on her back not long after an x-ray. It faded away over a span of 2 or 3 months.


45 posted on 07/29/2014 8:05:32 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

While Putin is often seen shirtless, Obama’s bare chest has never been seen in public. Could this be the reason?


46 posted on 07/29/2014 8:11:44 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I feel sorry for the little boy. What kind of mother puts a child through that. The look on the little boy’s face just tugs at my heart.

I think is does look like a burn from a hair dryer, and it would fade later.


47 posted on 07/29/2014 9:48:14 AM PDT by Guardian Sebastian (Mother of God, pray for us and our country.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Hell of a birthmark for the kid


48 posted on 07/30/2014 6:01:57 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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