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The Black Panel at Comic-Con: 'African American culture is American culture'
The Guardian ^

Posted on 07/28/2014 11:03:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Of the hundreds of panels available at Comic-Con, which drew to a close on Sunday, none are more respected than the long-running Black Panel, hosted by the comic book creator and Milestone Media co-founder Michael Davis. Unlike most of the other panels at Comic-Con, the Black Panel has nothing to sell, and features guests who also have nothing to promote. Instead, it is a discussion between audience and panel members about black culture, a way for prominent figures in African American entertainment to reach out to those who hope to emulate their paths to success.

Davis started the panel in 1998, five years after he founded Milestone, a comic book entertainment company responsible for some of the most successful black superheroes of the 90s, like Icon, a 300-year-old alien whose first earthly encounter was with a slave woman in the American south, and Static, about a high school teenager who receives superpowers after being mistakenly caught up in a gang war.

Today, the Black Panel is an institution. It is given a 90-minute slot at Comic-Con, a rare honour for any panel, and the panel alum have included RZA, Shaquille O'Neal and Nichelle Nichols, aka Lieutenant Uhura of Star Trek. This year, the Black Panel played host to Ne-Yo, J August Richards, Kevin Grevioux, Cree Summer, Erika Alexander, Tatiana El Khouri and Orlando Jones.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Business/Economy; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: blackculture; comiccon; grievances; playtheracecard

1 posted on 07/28/2014 11:03:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

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2 posted on 07/28/2014 11:06:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: nickcarraway

COL’ got to be! Y’know? Shiiit.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 12:15:29 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: nickcarraway

Does it include discussions on the “knock out game”?


4 posted on 07/29/2014 12:31:18 AM PDT by albie
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To: nickcarraway

Okay, we need to devote some serious attention to a discussion that occurs at a convention that is devoted to comic books?


5 posted on 07/29/2014 4:47:33 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: nickcarraway
Black superheroes? That's an idea that is really funny. There's no fun in being a superhero when you can be a sports thug hero, a gangster rap thug hero, a pimp thug hero, a drug thug hero, a drive-by shooter thug hero. More realistic heroes for the kid's in the neighborhood to steal from their local newsstand.
6 posted on 07/29/2014 6:05:31 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Bigg Red

Why not we get much more serious attention to football, basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, golf, ad nauseum... why not a form of literature that actually has developed and grown through the years?

Did you know ‘MAUS’ won the pulitzer prize through a graphical presentation of plight of those who suffered in the Holocaust?

Did you know that they are looking at turning the ‘Forgotten Man’ into a graphic novel?

Don’t you agree that every venue that we can present conservative values we should? If we aren’t there the libs will be.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 6:07:57 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: nickcarraway

Black culture as expressed today would starve, self destruct and vanish without liberal support.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 6:08:45 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: nickcarraway

Urban culture was created as a FOIL to American/Western Culture by those who seek to destroy it.


9 posted on 07/29/2014 6:12:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I would further define “liberal support” as “robbing from traditional Western culture to prop up ‘Black’ culture”.


10 posted on 07/29/2014 6:13:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nickcarraway; GeronL
Davis started the panel in 1998, five years after he founded Milestone, a comic book entertainment company responsible for some of the most successful black superheroes of the 90s, like Icon, a 300-year-old alien whose first earthly encounter was with a slave woman in the American south

So blacks are aliens? Or aliens are black people?

I know Louis Farrakhan and Sun Ra spouted that kind of mumbo jumbo but if it's an alien, it isn't human and certainly isn't of African origin.

"black superhero" indeed.

11 posted on 07/29/2014 7:50:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: reed13k

Shaq and RZA (past panelists) have no ties to comic books (unless you want to bring up that HORRIBLE Space Jam “cartoon”).


12 posted on 07/29/2014 7:52:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: nickcarraway
"When I first started the panel," says Davis, during an interview that took 40 minutes to get to because he kept being mobbed by passersby, "There was a panel here at Comic-Con called Blacks in Comics, and that was a bitch fest, people saying 'Oh, Marvel won't hire me …' So I created the Black Panel, which is positive. We ask, 'How do we create our own heroes?'

I see more positivity in a panel on black cartoonists than this race focused "For Us, By Us" focus group.

Cartoonists like George Herriman (Krazy Kat) and Kyle Baker have more to say to the world at large than a bunch of thuggish breakdancer, slaves, and "gang" stereotypes trotted out one more time.

13 posted on 07/29/2014 7:59:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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"I want to reach young people of colour, and let them know they can do what I do. I don't play basketball and I'm not a rapper, though I can sing karaoke. There's 16-year-old kids out there who love comics who have no idea how to get into the field. I want to let them know that this is possible. I want to tell them to know these people on the Black Panel, stay in touch with these people."

Tip number one, learn to draw.

Tip number two, learn to write or find someone who can.

Tip number three, realize that YOUR life experiences don't come into play when you are dealing with offworld adventures.

Billy Dee Williams brought this up in defiance of those in the audience at another convention asking about how his background prepared him to play Lando in the Star Wars franchise. He said that HIS inspiration in that role was Errol Flynn and the other roguish pirates. Lando was NOT from Earth, let alone Chicago.

14 posted on 07/29/2014 8:05:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: nickcarraway; GeronL; Slings and Arrows
Right now, Davis is considering future guests. "One day I'm going to do a black panel with nobody on the panel except white people who have huge influence on African American culture, like Rick Rubin, Quentin Tarantino, Bill Clinton, who was in my mind the first black president. People who appreciate and respect black culture."

I thought these people had an influence on American culture. I guess I don't live in "Black America", I live in the United States of America.

Martin Luther King Jr. denounced the race hustlers who wanted a black separatist America.

15 posted on 07/29/2014 8:08:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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I refuse to use the term African American. I have known several white South Africans who muse at the term since they are not allowed to claim it. I always point out that that term must include Egyptians, Libyans , and the like as well, not just black people.


16 posted on 07/29/2014 8:11:43 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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The Black Panel at Comic-Con: 'African American culture is American culture'

Fixed it

17 posted on 07/29/2014 8:13:14 AM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: a fool in paradise

No clue who RZA is, but Shaq is known as an avid collector (superman focus) and as I recall contributed capital to Malibu or another black start-up in the industry when he was still a ballplayer.

In addition on the animation front beyond Space Jam,
he played John Henry Irons/Steel in Steel (DC animation)

He also voiced himself in the animated series Static Shock, Johnny Bravo, and Uncle Grandpa, and in The Lego Movie.

Oh, and Shaq supported Christie in his reelection bid in Jersey (which at least wasn’t a dem)


18 posted on 07/29/2014 9:01:51 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: reed13k

I think RZA is from the Wu-Tang Clan rapper group.


19 posted on 07/29/2014 9:03:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: a fool in paradise

yeah no clue how he fits in...


20 posted on 07/29/2014 9:04:33 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: reed13k

I’m more interested in comic creators who make works that stand alone. I’m not buying them as a fashion accessory.

Is this writer trying to make the case that black people don’t like or read Spider-Man?

Is Orlando Jones (actor) tweeting about some new comic publisher who is a black man going to translate to SALES to each of those 100,000 followers?

Or is it going to get them to just recognize a character name that may LATER blip up on the radar as some new adapted movie franchise?


21 posted on 07/29/2014 9:07:17 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: nickcarraway

This sounds like an interesting panel.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 9:07:18 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: reed13k

...a form of literature....

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Sorry, no.


23 posted on 07/29/2014 9:18:16 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Bigg Red

Your opinion... and I’m ok with that

Just like I don’t consider the NYT or MSNBC journalism.


24 posted on 07/29/2014 12:56:25 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: a fool in paradise

I agree - but a lot of the conventions have panels with collectors, appraisers, peripheral entertainers, etc as a way to try to create extra draw.

Just like they have the costume contests(definitely not my thing), etc .


25 posted on 07/29/2014 1:04:33 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: reed13k

If there is ONE THING that Sandy Ego Con doesn’t need it is “extra draw”.

It’s lurched over the shark.

It’s the same with “Haight-Ashbury” after the hippies (who wanted to take but not give to the community) came to live on the street (from points East). Or so I hear. Those who created that bohemian scene said it all changed when the runaway tourists flocked in. The free store couldn’t handle the extra “demand”.

SDCC now sells out in advance. I hear that single days are all you can buy unless you buy a year in advance. And some people wait 24 hours in line to get into a specific panel room/discussion.

The artists have left. They set up shop at another hotel, run off from the convention that in name was designed to celebrate their hobby/field.


26 posted on 07/29/2014 1:40:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: reed13k

Your opinion... and I’m ok with that

((
Fair enough. Freegards.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 3:07:54 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah I know - I always wanted to go but never got to get there before it got out of control, so now I just hit local midwest stuff and still have some fun and meet some folks.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 5:16:26 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: nickcarraway

If African American culture is American culture ... then drop “African” from the phrase.


29 posted on 07/31/2014 2:20:18 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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