Skip to comments.Paul Singer: This threat is 'head-and-shoulders' above all others
Posted on 07/29/2014 6:23:35 PM PDT by Kartographer
"(A natural EMP event) today would cause a massive disruption to the electric grid, possibly shutting it down entirely for months or longer, with unimaginable consequences," Singer wrote. "Only two years ago, the sun let loose with a Carrington-magnitude burst, but the position of the earth at the time prevented the burst from hitting it. The chances of additional events of such magnitude may be far greater than most people think." Carrington refers to a solar storm in 1859 that caused telegraph systems to fail around the world.
Singer warned that a man-made EMP attack would be even worse.
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I posted this in spite of being told by a number of FReepers that there is no such thing as EMP.
I actually remember William F. Buckley warning of just that. I think it was way back in the 60s but might have been the 70s.
At the time he was thinking more of Communist Saboteurs but still the same idea.
As long as they get things back online by football season.
I’d be OK but my kids would have to learn to play outside.
Gee, I wonder who benefits by an event that takes us back to the 7th century?
Well it would get rid of the unprepared which I’m guessing is the 39% who still think Oblahblah is doing a good job. :-)
There is, it’s called Hussein obongo
You would most likely be arrested for child abuse. ;-)
I'd much rather have the "reset" button hit by a natural event than by them. A natural event would be an equal-opportunity killer. The global elite will exempt themselves.
“Singer warned that a man-made EMP attack would be even worse.”
He’s probably wrong about that. Unless it’s a megaton size blast at 250 miles up and optimized for EMP... That’s pretty unlikely.
Judge Jeanine Pirro also thinks this is the biggest threat.
And somehow travels all over the northern hemisphere.
Here is the entire movie “Remnants” on youtube, it is about after an EMP event.
I was thinking more in terms of the savages whose profit told them that their moon god wanted things to stay as they were in the 7th century. Told them how to take a dump, dress, have sex, have many wives, and kill an infidel.
Will the edges on my skis melt?
The danger from an EMP engineered by Barry Soetoro is orders of magnitude greater than from a natural event.
Lights Out! by David Crawford
is a good read
But Russia might annex part of Ukraine...
I don’t believe in numerology but there are plenty of warning signs of bad stuff to come and good stuff. In general machines are getting stronger and people are getting weaker. Safe to say the future won’t be anything like the present, or the past for that matter.
He must have been listening to the fist half of this from Friday. Something’s up.
As David Puddy said “It’s gonna’ be rough.”
The Carrington effect MELTED the telegraph lines.
A natural EMP would not be world-wide, but the domino-effect from the effected area would be. All the cable lines, power lines, phone lines, would become conduits of this charge, with the possibilities of the iniital charge ramping up, with the increase of resistance in those lines. All motors would be de-gaussed to a negative state, or even reversed polarity. Anything electronic would be turned neutral, and therefore useless, and dormant. That would include all medical aids to the living, external and internal. All battery sources would become inert, with no chance of regeneration, whether installed in something, or on the store shelf.
So, no lights, no phones, no radios or tv’s, no power to keep food or to cook, no banking or atm’s.
(Gee, i wonder who the low intelligence crowd would blame for this, Bush?)
The movie was not about numerology. It was about an far advanced galactic civilization that knew what was going to happen to earth. The numbers were a code so they someone could figure it out and see earth’s demise.
The after the next year or so, likelihood will only diminish, at least for another 9-10 years.
Reporting seems hyperbolic.
If emp events natural or otherwise — can just be put off for another 40 years or so a large section of the population will be off the grid.
In only 6 years or so the solar people are saying their stuff will reach grid parity everywhere without government supports. After that, its reasonable to expect that solar uptake will increase many fold from its already high increase rate.
In 10-15 years or so 4th generation portable nuclear power plants will come on-steam and pretty much break the grid up into much smaller independent pieces.
I think a lot of capabilities that are dependent on satellites currently in a couple decades will return to earth. Anyhow, seems to me, I’ve seen articles on military research to mitigate the vulnerabilities of US satellites to Chinese attack by returning some of their capabilities to earth and simultaneously making them faster and more robust. Any development here would likely be further off
You sound like a Popular Science article from 1952.
I think some people are more worried about losing their smart phones.
[ Id be OK but my kids would have to learn to play outside. ]
The kids would adapt quicker than the adults!
You sound like a Popular Science article from 1952.
Well its true that part of the excitement of the 1950’s and 60’s was that space travel was right around the corner and too cheap to meter electric energy byo nuclear power would soon be a reality. (Less well known was the water world’s ambition to make very cheap water desalination to turn the deserts green.)
All that died in the 1970’s for many reasons. The great breakthrough actually happened from 1966-70 in nuclear research with lftr thorium reactors that promised to collapse the cost of electricity. But the prototype nuclear power plants were shelved because they weren’t dual use. The problems involved with going into space proved to be non trivial and funding for major ventures dried up after the 1973 OPEC oil strike began the long 40 year decapitalization of America. The US government actually understood that the big dams built during the 1930-60’s would not solve American water problems indefinitely. There was a robust US membrane research program that developed the first iterations of reverse osmosis membranes for water desalination. These programs were scaled back to nothing in the 1970’s and much of the benefit for these programs went overseas.
But in recent years the excitement has begun to return. The lftr thorium reactors were rediscovered. There’s now about three companies in the USA, and one in each of canada france, japan and china to develop these reactors. Likely the competition to be the first to prototype these reactors will turn very public in a year or two. The consequence of the fracking revolution is that the decapitalization of the USA which began in the 70’s is in the beginning years of a reversal. There’s real world consequences here. One of them is that tax revenues to the federal government are going up big time. In another five years the new oil money will make it seem like somebody just turned the lights on. That will release money for all kinds of expansive programs like space ventures. Currently the biggest expense for getting into space is 200 mile jump into low earth orbit. If you have seen prototype reusable rockets developed by Elon Musk’s company—these promise to reduce costs considerably. (For heaven sake I have a nephew working on ion engines for for space travel away from earth.) Finally on water there’s likely to be some big breakthroughs in the next couple year in either graphene or carbon nanotubes which will drop the price of membranes considerably. When the lftr thorium reactors are developed—together with the new membranes, they’ll make desalination cheap enough for agriculture and thereby turn the deserts green and double the size of the habitable earth.
In short, the worm is turning again! If we’re just talking about technology —all kinds of amazing things will break out.
This is not a big stretch. I could not imagine the technologies I now use routinely when I was in college preparing for the future. Neither could you.
If the technological change over the next 30 years is anything like the last 30...well you get the idea.
It wouldn’t even have to be real, just flip off the switch. I don’t think that would be advantageous to the Marxist/Muslim agenda. We need to have a thread that will put forth their best plan.
Modernize what was learned from all other Marxist revolutions and have at it. Haven’t read the manual myself but shouldn’t it be in there?
How many on the planet don’t have power now? Of course, they could always import Ebola.
BTW ... Even as I type this there is a movie being made from the book “Lights Out!” .
The first guy who can replicate the telegraph.......
This call to protect the grid will in fact give the administration the power to control that grid.
From Sam Glasstones book:
Too many younger people would self emplode if there was an EMP. As it is, a few hours of power outage from a storm freaks them. Then the idea of going outside, oh no, the horror!
Whew, did you happen to see my rant about the nephews earlier in the month? Poor widdle things came for a summer vacation in the country but they were too afraid of the big scary outside to venture out. The preteens refused to learn to ride a bike because it involved the outside. No archery, RC cars, hiking, walking around the very safe neighborhood to see wildlife, going to the park, geocaching, visiting a cave, croquet, fisbee, fishing, grilling fajitas on the back porch, river tubing, putt-putt golf, or a hundred other things because they would have to go.... OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!! They had to be begged to roast marshmallows. What kid doesn’t like to roast marshmallows? What kid doesn’t know how to ride a bike? What kid won’t go in garage to play with kittens because a garage is too close to fresh air and sunshine? After a few days of this bs and attitude, we ended their vacation and handed off to other unsuspecting relatives.
Thanks for the heads up, Kart.
Good article and coming from CNBC no less.
Maybe reality is slowly starting to sink in.
In the same way the federal government uses any crisis or perceived crisis to gain more power and take away more of our freedoms.
That is how they used the scare of radical muslim terrorism to gain the power to form an even more pervasive police state.
Then they turned that power from fighting terrorism to persecuting citizens who don't fall in line with Hope N'Change.
Yep. Mine aren’t that bad. My oldest is fine, loves being out but, his brother is a vidiot. They sure are different from when I was younger,
By the way, mind if I come over?
But my favorite is One Second After, a 2009 fiction novel by American writer William R. Forstchen.
Perfect for your oblivious friends and family, because they won't be able to put it down, and it raises so many moral and ethical decisions, that they have to ask themselves over and over, "What would I do?"
Coworkers have told me they lost sleep thinking about dilemmas presented in the book.
One Second After is scarier.
Heck, let’s go for the Trifecta, a Black Swan...
EMP, Ebola, and ???
Facebook was offline for an hour last Friday, and people were calling 911 to report the "emergency."