Posted on 07/30/2014 6:49:04 AM PDT by Chainmail
RE Spartacus:
Yes, he brought that up... about crediting Dalton Trumbo as well. He had a large screen display behind him, and showed pictures of McCarthy (unflattering ones, naturally). It just rankled me.
I think it was called “Before I Forget” or “While I Still Remember” or something like that - a play on the Alzheimer’s theme - he founded and funded an Alzhemier research facility, I believe. It’ll probably be on again, so you’ll get a chance to see it.
“In Harm’s Way”, “Paths of Glory”, “Spartacus”, and the “The War Wagon” are a couple of my favorite flicks. he brought up The Duke too, said he was a dear friend - no politics talk about Duke, though.
Talked about his friendship with Sinatra, Burt Lancaster, The Duke, a couple of other stars as well. It was a nice retrospective, and at 93, damn, I give the credit for getting up there and having the spunk...
Worth a watch if it comes on again.
No, you bore me, not treason.
I must say she does look like she’s been worked over with the ugly stick in these photos. And like Zelig, she manages to look Vietnamese in these delightful pix!
RE Loren and Margaret:
I believe “Stunning” comes to mind, immediately. And they’re still beautiful, in their 70s, today. Put Raquel Welch in that group too.
Simply stunning, gorgeous, and bodacious indeed...
Jill St. John was another beauty as well.
One wonders what Papa Henry thought of his daughter’s treasonous activities...
And yet you keep responding. Almost like you can't help yourself.
Fascinating.
And kinda funny!
I really didn’t know much about Hanoi Jane until the mid 90s. Between Rush Limbaugh and a couple of Vietnam Era vets that we free in the same army guard unit I was in brought it up.
As a rule, I love turner and like hearing the back stories.
I don't think she looks the least bit Vietnamese.
She does look remarkably vacuous in the Cleveland mug-shot, though. The lights are on ... but nobody's home.
I think Kirk may have been the one to break the blacklist, I’m not sure. Unfortunately, a lot of the idiot communist writers in Hollywood during this period were amazingly gifted writers. Many people at FR believe that for art to be good the artists must be good people. It just doesn’t work like that. Sadly, Jane Fonda is not only a rotten person she’s not all that good an actress - Klute being the one exception.
Paths of Glory! What a wonderful if horrific movie. To this day, the opening sequence of Kirk walking through the battlefield gives me the absolute creeps. WWI - the worst war in the world!
Jane gave Hank his final heart attack! He hated her relationship with the awful Roger Vadim and the awful Tom Haydon and he wasn’t too happy with her little jaunt over to Hanoi. He was a more mainstream lib.
In a TCM interview a couple of years ago, Jane was - at age 75 - yet again complaining about how Daddy wasn’t a warm and fuzzy guy. She’s been going on about this for about 65 years now. What an infantile woman.
Some of us started drooling long before we became men. I was too young to get in the theaters for Barbarella, but Cat Ballou and, well, pretty much anything up to Klute kept me dreamy eyed.
That’s funny! Yes, how could I forget her videos in which she told women “to go for the burn” and managed to get sued by dozens of women with ripped tendons and condemned by doctors across the country? Such an idiot.
Her looks went really downhill after Klute. She was only 32 in that movie and by 1975 she looks about 50. She’s downright ugly in that Lillian Hellman movie.
RE Kirk/Blacklist:
Yes, he did say that he was the first to use a “blacklisted” screenwriter’s real name - that being Trumbo - in the credits for Spartacus.
“...Many people at FR believe that for art to be good the artists must be good people...”
Well... I think what you’ll find is that many people here on FR have spent time in their lives with bullets flying a little too close to home to have time for those that helped the people SENDING those bullets their way.
My beef with the “art” world is that so many of the “artists” support the very people that use them for propaganda purposes against the Country that provided them every opportunity to BE anything they wanted to be. There is nowhere else on earth like America, and yet you have folks who SUCCEEDED beyond most of our wildest imaginings, using that success to run down the Country that PROVIDED that success.
Jane Fonda should have been prosecuted for treason. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. What she did - willingly, freely, eyes-wide-open - was contemptible. So the reactions you see here are not surprising. Any American patriot should be outraged.
John Kerry is of that same ilk as Fonda.
We should not forget these people and what they did; allowing them and their actions to disappear down the memory hole does a shameful disservice to every young American son, father, brother, uncle, who went away to Vietnam to fight for a people who were being murdered and systematically erased, and never came home.
That’s why folks here are so passionate about this.
Right behind you...
I have no idea.
I for one will never forget what she did. There are 58,272 names on the Vietnam Memorial. More that a few were men I served with, many are men I grew up. How many of their deaths were attributable to Hanoi Jane and John Kerry?
Never forget.
Agreed.
Gave up my cable months ago. Haven’t missed it.
Precisely.
Welcome home and thank you...
Kerry, Fonda, and the rest of that crew should be reminded of those 58,272 names every day until they leave the Earth.
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