Skip to comments.McDonald’s Ordered To Pay $27 Million For Teens’ Deaths
Posted on 07/31/2014 5:51:30 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
College students Denton Ward, 18, from Flower Mound, and Lauren Crisp, 19, of Dripping Springs, were killed shortly after stopping at a College Station McDonalds in the early morning hours of February 18, 2012.
Ward and another male friend were attacked in the McDonalds parking lot by a mob of 15 to 20 people.
When Wards friends, including Crisp, loaded into a car to rush him to the hospital, the driver ran a red light and they were involved in a crash with a pickup truck. Crisp was killed in the crash.
The teens families sued McDonalds, claiming that the restaurant neglected to provide late-night security even though police had been called more than 20 times that year to break up fights at that location.
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Sympathetic jury wanting to do “something” for the victims’ families...and lawyers going after the deepest pockets. This will be tossed, or greatly reduced, on appeal..
Wonder why McDonald?
Why don’t they sue the manufacturer of the pickup truck?
Who has the bigger pockets?
All the money in the world won’t bring someone back to life and it is a tragedy but at one point you have to ask yourself would any amount of security have thwarted a feral attack in this day and age? Probably not. Security guards aren’t respected. They’re barely a detterent.
I’d like to sue them over that crappy slop they sell as the Big Mac. Absolute worst burger of all the fast food chains.
I know there are some stupid, ignorant people in America, but after this verdict and the Ventura verdict, how in the hell do they continue to get twelve of them altogether, at one time?
I mean, these two verdicts take a leap of faith, a shot of something out of Harry Potter, and two HUGE blinders to get to these conclusions!
WTF is happening in America?!?!
How about the manufacturer of the traffic signal?
Simple solution, all McDs have to do is to have a sign declaring the store a “mob free” zone.
Easy, isn’t it?
Marcus Jamal Jones: Arrested
Hmmm...no photograph available or included in any of the stories about his arrest for the beating of Denton Ward. I wonder why that is?
>> Security guards arent respected. Theyre barely a deterrent.
That was the case 20 years ago at our nice suburban swim and tennis in a good neighborhood. Kids showing up to hang out and party in the parking lot would thumb their noses at a private security guard. They might mosey on, but they really weren’t worried about the guy.
Then we started hiring off-duty cops with arrest powers. First time he got crap from the kids he was running off (who had throw out a bunch of trash in the lot, breaking a bottle, and given the off-duty cop a FU, IIRC), a couple of them got arrested, mommy and daddy had to bail out the kiddies, and the problem stopped.
It’s the Moons fault. Didn’t provide enough evening light. Sue the moon.
The mentality is that anyone that has accumulated any wealth needs to be targeted for confiscation and punishment.
This mentality has become ubiquitous in our society, and yes, it’s because of liberals.
Are there no nightime cops on patrol in CS?
This makes me want to violate FR's profanity standards.
On the bright side, the damage is irreparable. Plus, the award will likely be reduced on appeal and, based on the sales of the book, it will amount to chump change for Chris Kyle's widow.
As conservative as Texas is, it still has a tort system that makes these illogical, “Jackpot” verdicts possible. As others have posted, you get a bunch of jurors who vote on emotion rather than logic and you end up with the absurd result that McDonalds is 97% liable and the actual murderers are 3% liable. Its not like this kid slipped on a wet floor and cracked his head open and died. He was killed. The only — only — way you get to a result of it being 97% McDonalds’ fault is if you permit people to simply assign blame based on ability to pay. Hell. Why not get a list of stockholders of McDonalds, find the richest ones, and sue them too. Why not award the family a billion dollars?
I’m waiting for the story of the employee, forced to be unarmed due to his/her workplace, “No Guns,” policy, robbed, beaten or killed while heading out to his/her car before or after work...
And the employer gets sued by the victim for removing his/her right to defend him/herself, and having inadequate security.
The big mac is OK, but that disgusting pink/orange/I-don’t-know-WHAT-color-it-is dressing/sauce/goop is just plain sickening.
Exactly! Why aren't the cops the one's paying? After all, the argument of the gun-grabbers is that the cops provide security.
I found one story that said Marcus Jones got 90 days for assaulting Denton’s friend but that was the only arrest.
The police don’t want security guards to have any real authority because then the cops couldn’t get overtime pay working security details.
Private security guards have the same power of citizen’s arrest as any other person. The problems are that there is little or no training in when to arrest;in fact, most are strongly discouraged from performing a citizen’s arrest of even a violent person .Nor will their employer defend the guard in court.As a private person if you arrest someone clearly committing a crime you can still be sued in civil court and face tremendous legal expenses proving you were right. On top of which you probably were dismissed from your job.I know of store clerks fired for grabbing shoplifters who were trying to leave with high-dollar items.
The lawyers of the last 50 years care absolutely nothing about justice.I say all of them are guilty because the good lawyers refuse to ostracize the scumbags.The judges who preside over so many farcial decisions are guilty as well.
McDonalds had a duty to provide security. Cops were called 20 previous times?
Not saying McDonalds is liable for $27 million, but yeah. They bear some responsibility.
If the guy was carrying concealed, and Texas is a state where he could have been, ....
Obviously the paving company should be sued. Their pavement is like a magnet to thugs...probably something in the mix.
If the victims would have been armed and fought back, I suspect that McDonalds would still be getting sued by the “crowd of 15-20 people.” It’s the litigation lottery.
If the Ronald McDonald Security Cop had shot the thugs (who incidentally would've looked like some of Hussein's sons) how big would the settlement have been then?
All valid points but I was only speaking to the instructions given the jury by the judge and their decision based on that and what they heard in court. Nothing else matters.
With slime-ball lawyers like these, it further encourages business to stay out da hood.
College Station TX is home to mostly white Texas A&M University, where is this McDonalds?
Lawyers, the bane of society. They have perverted a justice systems to turn it into a disturbing legal systems. Between defense attorneys (liars for hire) and televultures I don’t know which to consider the worst.
I don't know the facts of the case, but in order to win, Ventura had to prove (the jury had to conclude) that the description of the incident was somehow not truthful.
There are jurisdictions in Texas that are known to be plaintiff’s haven, corrupt in favor of the plaintiff.
Bryan is fairly close to Prairie View A&M, a traditionally black university.
I prefer dorothy Lynch on my burgers...
Nope, our legal system has gone insane.
Or the city that operated the signal — taxpayers are the deepest pocket of all.
The argument for liability is probably based on the common “chain of causation” argument.
Same reason a negligent driver can be held liable for the death of a person after an accident — even though it may have resulted form medical malpractice.
Also, unfortunately, $27 million isn’t that big of an award these days.
“The teens families sued McDonalds.... who, although completely uninvolved, have lots of dough.
$27 million might pay off their college loans.
Could you please describe what mechanism you recommend be implemented in order to satisfy this duty?
Please recognize that the solution must be reasonably effective, must shield the business from the liability found, and must be such that any business which would otherwise be similarly liable would be able to implement it.
It's hard for me to picture every shoe-shine stand or coffee kiosk being responsible for the criminal acts of others, but apparently that is your assessment.
Or is it merely the size of the corporation which triggers this duty?
This is yet another frivolous lawsuit. McD is a cheap fast food restaurant. There is no reasonable expectation of safety in their parking lot at night. Parasitic lawyers disgust me as much as their parasitic clients do.
Security Guards. You’ve heard of them, no doubt. Perhaps have seen them.
Fact is, any normal business owner operating in a high risk environment is wise to secure his business, employees, customers and etc. As we all know - when seconds count....
As you know - this Mickey D’s had a history of police calls regarding criminal activity. A security guard may not solve all problems, but in hindsight, it would have saved them 27 million.
So, does every business owner, regardless of the size of the business, now require a security guard to satisfy this duty?