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Kiss Singer Gene Simmons Tells Depressed People To Kill Themselves
Opposing Views ^ | 8-1-2014 | Michael Allen

Posted on 08/01/2014 10:52:37 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Last month, Kiss singer Gene Simmons falsely claimed that the wealthiest one percent paid 80 percent of "all taxes" and created "all the jobs."

Eager to spread more love, Simmons recently teed off on his former Kiss band mates Peter Criss and Ace Frehley, and anyone suffering from depression or drug addiction.

When asked by SongFacts.com if he still gets along with Criss or Frehley these days, Simmons responded, "No, I don't get along with anybody who's a drug addict and has a dark cloud over their head and sees themselves as a victim."

"Drug addicts and alcoholics are always: 'The world is a harsh place.' My mother was in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany," added Simmons. "I don't want to hear f--- all about 'the world as a harsh place.' She gets up every day, smells the roses and loves life. And for a putz, 20-year-old kid to say, 'I'm depressed, I live in Seattle.' F--- you, then kill yourself."

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1 posted on 08/01/2014 10:52:37 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

He’s right.


2 posted on 08/01/2014 10:54:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

BTW, very misleading title.


3 posted on 08/01/2014 10:54:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

Simmons is an idiot


4 posted on 08/01/2014 10:55:32 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Citizen Zed

Tough love is only OK when Liberals do it.


5 posted on 08/01/2014 10:55:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: dfwgator

Yup he’s just telling it like it is.


6 posted on 08/01/2014 10:58:25 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, he didn’t seriously tell anyone to kill themselves. He said it facetiously, to demonstrate that, as they aren’t willing to go that far, their problems are obviously not as bad as their whining makes them out to be.


7 posted on 08/01/2014 10:58:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GeronL
Simmons is an idiot

Quite disagree. He is a very intelligent, well educated man. Quite narcissistic, but not an idiot by any stretch of the imagination and in this case, I quite agree with him.

8 posted on 08/01/2014 10:58:43 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: GeronL

Yeah but he hates Obama so he can’t be that much of an idiot.


9 posted on 08/01/2014 10:58:48 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: rjsimmon

He is a horrible perverted person, he should set an example if he thinks people should kill themselves


10 posted on 08/01/2014 10:59:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Boogieman

And he didn’t mean people who are clinically depressed, as the title implied.


11 posted on 08/01/2014 10:59:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

Guess that explains why you don’t see a lot of Emo Kids at Kiss concerts.


12 posted on 08/01/2014 11:01:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

I agree with him on the suicide thing, I think a lot of people do it with a revenge mindset.


13 posted on 08/01/2014 11:01:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Gotta admit, he’s got a point.

I lived for years with a family member with mental illness. It sucked for them and for the rest of the family too. But once we figured out they were using that ‘mental illness’ for attention and excuses to do or not do things. We all eventually quit enabling them.


14 posted on 08/01/2014 11:01:59 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Citizen Zed

he’s got a point


15 posted on 08/01/2014 11:02:05 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: sappy
he’s got a point

And it's on his tongue. ;)

16 posted on 08/01/2014 11:02:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

I’ve come to have a grudging respect for Gene. He’s a really good businessman & he is pro-troops ..... still can’t stand “the tongue”, though. One of the people he was talking about in this article I know well .... and Gene’s comments on that score are accurate.


17 posted on 08/01/2014 11:02:56 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I see his point, but by definition mentally ill people aren’t thinking clearly. And hence they aren’t able to process the tough love.

I had a cousin who committed suicide. He had no trouble in his life to come anywhere remotely close to being in a concentration camp. But the argument would not have swayed him.


18 posted on 08/01/2014 11:03:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Citizen Zed

The headline made it sound like he told a depressed person, literally, to go commit suicide. He did nothing of the sort. He made sarcastic comments about people who don’t count their blessings. Something I need to do more often!


19 posted on 08/01/2014 11:03:25 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Citizen Zed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aChRo7PrPQw


20 posted on 08/01/2014 11:03:52 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Lame hit piece.


21 posted on 08/01/2014 11:05:35 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Citizen Zed

Uh-OH. The BIG PHARMACEUTICAL companies aren’t going to like this one bit!!


22 posted on 08/01/2014 11:07:09 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Stop the August Amnesty runaway train, or we will literally lose our Republic folks.)
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To: Citizen Zed; All

read the whole article...its incredible and Simmons is spot on:

<>” Simmons went on to slam Run-D.M.C. for being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

“”So I will give the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame credibility even though it’s got Run-D.M.C. and Madonna and some other people on it, as soon as the Hip-Hop Hall of Fame allows Led Zeppelin inside,” stated Simmons. “You’d say, that’s ridiculous. Oh really? But Run-D.M.C. is in the Rock Hall? What brand of guitar do you play? What song have you ever sung?”

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23 posted on 08/01/2014 11:08:26 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Citizen Zed

Total agreement here...lol


24 posted on 08/01/2014 11:09:47 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Mastador1

> Yup he’s just telling it like it is.

If you’ve watched his show or listened to him for any length of time, what he’s really say, “stop whining, grow up and be a man and stop sitting on your a$$ and crying. I’m tired of hearing the SOS day after day. If you’re going to do it just go ahead and do it because I’m tired of hearing about it”.

I’d guess that pretty close to what he means anyway and I’ve watched him for years.


25 posted on 08/01/2014 11:10:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Buckeye McFrog

At some point people are responsible for themselves, and at some point the people who say that they aren’t are enablers.


26 posted on 08/01/2014 11:13:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Citizen Zed
Kiss Singer Gene Simmons Tells Depressed People To Kill Themselves

Cheer up, or Die Sucka!

- sounds like a good name for a KISS song.

27 posted on 08/01/2014 11:15:11 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want 0bama to make history - First to be IMPEACHED and REMOVED!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Depression is a disease of the mind. Telling someone suffering depression to go kill themselves is about as constructive as telling someone suffering heart disease or cancer to go kill themselves. It might make the idiots who say it feel a little better about their miserable selves, but it contributes nothing but a little mindless cruelty to a world already overflowing with it. Simmons needs to STFU and stick to groveling for forgiveness from the mother of his kids on TV.


28 posted on 08/01/2014 11:15:38 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: jsanders2001

The guy is an aggressive businessman and his phrasing was to tell these drug addicts to stop crying as victims. Nothing wrong with what be said.

Ever try to “help”a drug addict who doesn’t want to help themselves? They will rob you blind or worse.


29 posted on 08/01/2014 11:16:41 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Citizen Zed

However he meant it, clinically depressed people should not have to hear him say “ kill yourself”! I thought he was smarter than that.


30 posted on 08/01/2014 11:19:42 AM PDT by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: Williams

> The guy is an aggressive businessman and his phrasing was to tell these drug addicts to stop crying as victims. Nothing wrong with what be said.

Ever try to “help”a drug addict who doesn’t want to help themselves? They will rob you blind or worse.

I agree with Simmons. And yeah, unfortunately I have tried to help an addict or two when I was younger and a stupid liberal. You’re right. They’ll cry themselves right into your home then steal you blind to get high. I don’t help them anymore. And people on here wonder why I’m so anti-drug on here. Its from direct personl experience dealing with them many times.


31 posted on 08/01/2014 11:21:33 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Citizen Zed
Don't kill yourselves. Get some sunshine, a lot of sunshine. It is the best, maybe the only effective anti-depressive medicine there is without the murderous side effects of prescription anti-depressants. If you work at night or live up north where the sun is at a less effective angle, take vitamin D-3 supplements. I have watched the sunshine treatment work impressively and apparently totally on two women. One, In Viet Nam, was a manic-depressive (is that "bi-polar" these days?) anorexic bulimic. I got her taking a lot of D-3, not for the M-D because I didn't know about that effect, but because she got a lot of flu and colds. VN women fear the sun and stay covered up so that the sun doesn't touch their skin. She took the supps for a year. After a year she had had no virii for the time and, additionally, her M-D went totally away.
A doctor at the French hospital got her on a program that eased her out of the bulimia and the anorexia had gone with the M-D.

Seeing how that apparently worked I got my M-D daughter on the D-3. She is a night owl and seldom sees the sun. She quit taking the xanax et al and has been evened out for two years.

32 posted on 08/01/2014 11:26:05 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach san La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Citizen Zed

Uh oh. Sounds like Gene has finally gotten to that age where people just say what they think and let the chips fall where they may. Can’t have that, can we?


33 posted on 08/01/2014 11:28:21 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Citizen Zed

Simmons continued on his pro-suicide theme: “I never understand, because I always call them on their bluff. I’m the guy who says ‘Jump!’ when there’s a guy on top of a building who says, ‘That’s it, I can’t take it anymore, I’m going to jump.’ Are you kidding? Why are you announcing it? Shut the f-— up, have some dignity and jump! You’ve got the crowd.”


34 posted on 08/01/2014 11:29:48 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: jsanders2001

“A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an a-hole.” - Frank Zappa


35 posted on 08/01/2014 11:31:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Well, this is going to go over like a lead balloon, but I am about over the “clinically depressed.” I mean, nothing seems to help these people. They try this medication and that medication, and there is apparently just no cure. So they go on being depressed, and usually making sure their friends and family and co-workers are depressed along with them. I mean... come on.


36 posted on 08/01/2014 11:33:44 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Citizen Zed

He is the bass player and brains behind KISS, not the singer.


37 posted on 08/01/2014 11:33:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yeah, but the pharma companies make money hand over fist with them.


38 posted on 08/01/2014 11:35:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Yeah. I have a friend who has been off and on meds for years, and I really like her, so I don't want her to kill herself. BUT... I have noticed her depression fades when she's getting exactly what she wants. Very expensive food, clothes, vacations, drinks, etc seems to ease her depression. Having to work or clean house seems to exacerbate her depression.

This makes me suspicious. Know what I mean?

39 posted on 08/01/2014 11:41:47 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: dfwgator

not surprising...he is an atheist, right? his former band sucked too.


40 posted on 08/01/2014 11:41:57 AM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Depression is a disease of the mind.

For most people it's simply a fault in the way they think called cognitive distortion, and it can be cured easily. Gene Simmons doesn't understand and neither do the people who agree with him.

41 posted on 08/01/2014 11:42:31 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yep.

Being Unhappy is not depression...In fact, being unhappy is the Normal State.


42 posted on 08/01/2014 11:42:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GeronL

Why is he an idiot? He sounds like my kind of guy!


43 posted on 08/01/2014 11:44:20 AM PDT by golux
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To: dfwgator
Being Unhappy is not depression...In fact, being unhappy is the Normal State.

Hell, sounds like "marriage".

Just kidding, honey...smash, whap, pow...ouch!

44 posted on 08/01/2014 11:44:30 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: dfwgator
Yeah, but the pharma companies make money hand over fist with them.

Not to mention attorneys who file claims for SS disability.

45 posted on 08/01/2014 11:45:56 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: golux

“...When asked by SongFacts.com if he still gets along with Criss or Frehley these days, Simmons responded, “No, I don’t get along with anybody who’s a drug addict and has a dark cloud over their head and sees themselves as a victim.”

“Drug addicts and alcoholics are always: ‘The world is a harsh place.’ My mother was in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany,” added Simmons. “I don’t want to hear f-— all about ‘the world as a harsh place.’ She gets up every day, smells the roses and loves life. And for a putz, 20-year-old kid to say, ‘I’m depressed, I live in Seattle.’ F-— you, then kill yourself.”

Simmons continued on his pro-suicide theme: “I never understand, because I always call them on their bluff. I’m the guy who says ‘Jump!’ when there’s a guy on top of a building who says, ‘That’s it, I can’t take it anymore, I’m going to jump.’ Are you kidding? Why are you announcing it? Shut the f-— up, have some dignity and jump! You’ve got the crowd.”

Kiss was inducted this year into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, noted the New York Daily News, but Simmons is still upset because only the original four members of Kiss were inducted.

“They wouldn’t allow [current members] Tommy [Thayer] and Eric [Singer] to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, who have been in the band longer than the originals. So we said okay, we’ll accept the award, but I’m not playing,” Simmons told SongFacts.com.

Simmons went on to slam Run-D.M.C. for being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

“So I will give the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame credibility even though it’s got Run-D.M.C. and Madonna and some other people on it, as soon as the Hip-Hop Hall of Fame allows Led Zeppelin inside,” stated Simmons. “You’d say, that’s ridiculous. Oh really? But Run-D.M.C. is in the Rock Hall? What brand of guitar do you play? What song have you ever sung?”


46 posted on 08/01/2014 11:47:02 AM PDT by golux
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To: Citizen Zed

He makes some good points. I think he’s overstating it a bit to make a point, in that I doubt that he really wants people to kill themselves.


47 posted on 08/01/2014 11:47:08 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GeronL
He's better than most celebrities:

Simmons was a supporter of the foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration.[7] He supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, writing on his website: "I'm ashamed to be surrounded by people calling themselves liberal who are, in my opinion, spitting on the graves of brave American soldiers who gave their life to fight a war that wasn't theirs...in a country they've never been to... simply to liberate the people therein".[8] In a follow-up, Simmons explained his position and wrote about his love and support for the United States: "I wasn't born here. But I have a love for this country and its people that knows no bounds. I will forever be grateful to America for going into World War II, when it had nothing to gain, in a country that was far away... and rescued my mother from the Nazi German concentration camps. She is alive and I am alive because of America. And, if you have a problem with America, you have a problem with me."[8] During the 2006 Lebanon War between Israel and Lebanon, Simmons sent a televised message of support (in both English and Hebrew) to an Israeli soldier seriously wounded in fighting in Lebanon, calling him his "hero."[9]

In 2010, Simmons said he regretted voting for Barack Obama and criticized the 2009 health care reforms.[10] Following Obama's 2011 Mideast speech, in which the President called on Israel and the Palestinians to negotiate a settlement "based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps,"[11] Simmons told CNBC that Obama was gravely misguided. "If you have never been to the moon, you can't issue policy about the moon. For the president to be sitting in Washington D.C. and saying, 'Go back to your '67 borders in Israel' – how about you live there and try to defend an indefensible border – nine miles (14 km) wide?" Simmons also accused the United Nations of being "the most pathetic body on the face of the earth."[12]

Source: Wikipedia

48 posted on 08/01/2014 11:51:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Simmons 2016


49 posted on 08/01/2014 11:51:58 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Barack is the wife.)
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To: dfwgator
Yeah, but the pharma companies make money hand over fist with them.

I have no idea why people get depressed and I know nothing about the efficacy of drugs or medications. However, nobody should encourage sick people to kill themselves or to be self-destructive.

Surely the average depressed person has spent less on medications than this guy has on his makeup and his plastic surgery. And, the result? Well, you be the judge, but it would be wrong for anyone to encourage Simmons to further mutilate himself like Michael Jackson did.

50 posted on 08/01/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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