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Mark Levin: We Couldn't Have Won World War II Under Current Circumstances ^ | 8/02/14 | Mark Levin

Posted on 08/02/2014 8:08:07 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

Mark Levin: We Couldn't Have Won World War II Under Current Circumstances

MARK LEVIN: I really don't think we could have won World War II under the current circumstances. I really don't think we could have won World War II. We have a media in this country that roots for the enemy. We have a Democrat party in this country that roots for the enemy. These rules that are now applied to war -- I'm talking about our own men and women in uniform in Afghanistan, in Iraq previous to that -- are so absurd, so confining, so self-defeating.

You know we now have commanders responding to civilian leadership that is so whacked out that we have men and women in uniform, in combat, who are expected to die before they kill the enemy in a certain way. In a certain way. You're only allowed to fight in a certain way.There is no way we would've won World War II with generals and admirals of the sort we have today with a president of the kind we have today, quite frankly with a George W. Bush. There's no way. With the media we have today, which maybe reporting Information about our movements.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Society
Well having a covert Islamic enemy agent as POTUS sure doesn't help.
1 posted on 08/02/2014 8:08:07 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

What’s left of the world would be speaking German or Russian right now ... and that may yet come. This time it will be either Russian or Chinese. In either case there won’t be many liberals left after the upcoming (and inevitable)war. Any that survive the war will be eliminated by the remaining conservatives

2 posted on 08/02/2014 8:12:10 AM PDT by clamper1797 (I'm a Tea Party Conservative ... in my opinion that makes me "Politically Correct")
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To: clamper1797

Aw, don’t count out the Germans yet.

3 posted on 08/02/2014 8:14:07 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"We Couldn't Have Won World War II Under Current Circumstances"...and where would we be now?

North America would have become a battle ground between Hitler and Tojo.

Death camps and Baatan-like death marches would have become commonplace.

Millions would have been exterminated.

Do the American people really think such a scenario as this could not happen now--in the future?

4 posted on 08/02/2014 8:15:22 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I don’t think we’d have won WWII in the 40’s if Hitler hadn’t opened the eastern front.

5 posted on 08/02/2014 8:15:48 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Webster defines WAR as “the state or fact of exerting VIOLENCE or force against another, now only against a state or other organized body”

If you want to have a non-violent war
you`re living in lala land

6 posted on 08/02/2014 8:25:56 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits n firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Is Mark slipping he repeated himself, the media and the democrat party root for the enemy.

Mark, they are the same and one, at the risk of repeating myself.

7 posted on 08/02/2014 8:26:36 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Heck, with what nObama has done to the military, neither side could win the Civil War under current circumstances.

8 posted on 08/02/2014 8:28:55 AM PDT by ssaftler (I am both ashamed and afraid of my government, Federal AND State. Local not far behind...)
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To: ssaftler

I agree. We can’t fight any war and expect an enduring peace once we have won it. Our people just don’t have what it takes. Best we don’t involve ourselves in international affairs until that changes, if ever.

9 posted on 08/02/2014 8:31:32 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It also depends on what we think we’re fighting for. There was never a point at which the Vietnamese or Iraqis were ever a direct threat to the United States. Even when we WERE attacked, it was by mostly Saudis.

Fighting, and dying to save your homeland is one thing; fighting and dying for “national prestige”, “Peace with Honor” or “war on Terror” or “nation building: is another.

Some people nowadays would only construe “victory” as America being the worlds most powerful nation, the sole superpower. The mindset that not only do we have to have the best army on earth, it has to be as strong as the next three or four armies put together. We can’t afford that anymore.

If anyone thinks most Americans are going to give up lives and treasure to prevent an Islamic Caliphate in a region where most of the inhabitants would just as soon have exactly that, or to fight another ‘cold war’, they are mistaken.

In WW2 we were fighting for our survival, if we were in an actual war (DECLARED, against a definable enemy nation state who had attacked us first, not a “war on terror” or a pre emptive strike or a police action or nation building but getting back to the Powell Doctrine against another nation or nations) we would kick ass and easily win it.

We aren’t in a war; we are in a moral and political struggle against Islam as a political/cultural (death cult) force on one side and against the economic and geopolitical entity of China assuming what they perceive as their rightful role as an economic superpower on the other.

I’m half of the mind that we should let the Arabs put a Caliphate together. A) that’s what the vast majority of them would probably be happier with than anything we Americans recognize as any sort of government, and B) we’d have one identifiable enemy to fight rather than a matrix of shifting, and shifty nation/tribes.

The last several administrations squandered not so much any mythical goodwill of other nations as the faith and patience of the American people.

We could still go and kill people and break things anywhere in the world and then come home if we had to; more than that is something I think there is no more money or will to do on the part of the people.

10 posted on 08/02/2014 8:35:09 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

WWII? We can’t even control our own borders.

11 posted on 08/02/2014 8:38:53 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I wonder too, about if we could win World War II today, considering that we have exported so much of our industrial base overseas.

In World War II, much industry was converted to supplying the war effort. We still have many car factories, but so much other industrial production capacity is gone. Would we be able to supply the war effort as we did then, with the diminished industrial base we have now?

12 posted on 08/02/2014 8:43:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: RedStateRocker

Half the American people have embraced the doctrines of the people our grandfathers fought.

WW2 Americans didn’t murder half their own children.WW2 Americans were overwhelmingly proud of this nation and willing to work .WW2 Americans believed in God and His Commandments.

13 posted on 08/02/2014 8:48:27 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Roberr J. Dole once called WW2 a “Democrat war” but then hailed FDR. He was covering his KS bases.

14 posted on 08/02/2014 8:54:31 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Could not win because we exported all our factories to Germany, China and Japan.

15 posted on 08/02/2014 9:24:42 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The Party of Detroit aka the DemocRats is the #1 enemy of the USA.

16 posted on 08/02/2014 9:33:21 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

We couldn’t have won WWII as ill-prepared as we were before Pearl Harbor...but after the tragedy of Pearl, the sleeping giant awoke, got busy, geared up and won the war. Right now we look like we did before Pearl...the libs have deactivated us militarily in spite of the ominous warnings of the time. But what is the price we must pay this time to wake up again? People are going to have to die to shake us from our slumber ...people we know and love...then we will awaken and throw off the liberalism once again as we did before. When you KNOW history repeats, all you can do is shiver and wait for the blood that must be lost...again...and again...and again...

17 posted on 08/02/2014 9:47:10 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Several years before Pearl Harbor, the US had instituted the draft and ramped up military production.

18 posted on 08/02/2014 9:52:58 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

we couldn’t have won our WAR against Granada with the current political regime in Wash DC, either

19 posted on 08/02/2014 10:03:39 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Under current circumstances, this would be Kerry:

20 posted on 08/02/2014 10:17:03 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

No, I don’t think the current American populace could have won WW2. Not at all. Modern America doesn’t have the grit, the backbone, or the moral character anymore.

I spent a lot of time with older folks who were adults in the 1920s/30s/40s, from relatives to their friends and their generational peers. The difference between them and the typical American nowadays is night-and-day.

21 posted on 08/02/2014 10:24:34 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If we fought WWIII we’d win with robotic factories assembling pre-programmed unmanned aircraft made out of carbon fiber.

22 posted on 08/02/2014 10:49:12 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Mark's program Friday on the radical Left front groups and Luis Gutierrez was great.

Luis Gutierrez

Democratic Member of Congress

Member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus

Proposed legislation granting amnesty and increased benefits to illegal immigrants

Pressured President Bill Clinton to free convicted FALN terrorists whose bombs had killed six people

Supports the DREAM Act—legislation designed to create a path-to-citizenship for illegal immigrants who came to the United States as minors

See also: Democratic Party Congressional Progressive Caucus

Luis Gutierrez was born in Chicago on December 10, 1953, to parents of Puerto Rican ancestry. After graduating with an English degree from Northeastern Illinois University in 1977, he spent approximately seven years working variously as a cab driver, schoolteacher, community activist, and social worker.

From 1984-86 Gutierrez, a Democrat, served as an advisor to Mayor Harold Washington of Chicago. In 1986 Gutierrez was elected alderman of that city's mostly-Hispanic 26th Ward. At the time, he was a member of the Puerto Rican Socialist Party, a Marxist-Leninist entity.

In 1992 Gutierrez won a seat in the U.S. Congress, representing the newly formed Fourth District of Illinois. Gerrymandered from neighborhoods and suburbs west of downtown Chicago, this bizarrely shaped, 75-percent Latino district was designed by Democrats not only to guarantee the area a Latino Representative in Congress, but also to concentrate so many Latinos into a single district that they would pose little threat of unseating any black Democrat in the vicinity. Since then, Gutierrez has been re-elected every two years to the House of Representatives, where he is a member of both the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Progressive Caucus. His political campaigns have drawn significant support from the Democratic Socialists of America.

In the mid-1990s, Gutierrez developed close ties to the pro-socialist New Party in Chicago. In 1995-96 he was a board of directors member of Illinois Public Action, the state's largest public-interest organization, along with such notables as Robert Creamer, Lane Evans, Alice Palmer, Jan Schakowsky, and Quentin Young. And in 1997 Gutierrez served on the board of Citizen Action of Illinois.

In 1999 Gutierrez collaborated with fellow Progressive Caucus members Jose Serrano and Nydia Velazquez to pressure President Bill Clinton (through Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder) to free 16 convicted FALN terrorists. For details, click here.

During his years in Congress, Gutierrez has cultivated a reputation as the Democratic Party's leading strategist and spokesperson on immigration issues, and has been at the forefront of the effort to pass comprehensive immigration reform legislation. In 2001 he became the first elected official to sponsor a version of the DREAM Act—legislation designed to create a path-to-citizenship for illegal immigrants who came to the United States as minors.

In 2004 Gutierrez was a guest speaker at a “Take Back America” conference organized by the Campaign for America's Future, an organization dominated by the Democratic Socialists of America and the Institute for Policy Studies.

In 2005 Gutierrez joined the Out of Iraq Congressional Caucus. To view a list of additional Caucus members, click here.

In 2008 Gutierrez was appointed to the National Latino Advisory Council of Barack Obama's presidential campaign, along with such notables as Xavier Becerra, Henry Cisneros, Raul Grijalva, Eliseo Medina, Linda Sanchez, Hilda Solis, and 
Nydia Velazquez.

The following year, Gutierrez co-sponsored the Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act, a bill to create a pathway-to-citizenship for non-criminal illegal immigrants. He also led a multi-city tour whose purpose was to draw public attention to the hardships that immigrant families and communities were experiencing as a result of deportations.

In 2010 Gutierrez threatened to oppose the Democratic healthcare-reform bill because it included provisions that would prohibit illegal immigrants from purchasing coverage through government-run exchanges. He ultimately decided to back the legislation, however, because he was confident that Congress would soon “move forward on a comprehensive immigration reform package.” But later that year, Gutierrez, dissatisfied with the pace of progress on immigration reform, openly encouraged acts of nonviolent civil disobedience to force Congress to act. “We cannot be a slave to the legislative process,” he said. “That’s what we’ve done, and it hasn’t served us very well.”

In late July 2011, Gutierrez was arrested for participating in a sit-in outside the White House to demand that President Obama stop the deportation of illegal immigrants.

At an August 2013 town hall event in Chantilly, Virginia, Gutierrez warned that if a comprehensive immigration-reform bill was not passed soon:

“[S]omeone is going to die in that [Southwestern U.S.] desert trying to return to their families.... Someone’s going to lose a finger, a hand, an eye, a life today because an unscrupulous employer is going to put them in harm’s way. Someone’s going to die. There’s a woman that’s going to be raped in a field somewhere in America today because she has no rights in this country, and we need to end that.... There are children who are going to cry and there are marriages that are going to be destroyed because someone is going to be deported, and there are going to be children that are going to be left orphaned in this country.”

On October 8, 2013, Gutierrez was one of eight members of Congress (all Democrats) who were arrested when they sat in the middle of Independence Avenue and blocked rush-hour traffic during an immigration rally on Washington’s National Mall. The 15,000-plus demonstrators called for the passage of legislation allowing illegal immigrants to apply for U.S. citizenship. Also arrested were Representatives Joseph Crowley, Keith Ellison, Al Green, Raul Grijalva, John Lewis, Charles Rangel, and Jan Schakowsky.

At a July 2014 National Council of La Raza convention, Gutierrez told attendees that he was confident that President Obama would use executive action to give legal status to millions of immigrants who were living in the U.S. unlawfully. In a television interview a few days later, Gutiérrez said he would soon be meeting with White House officials “to negotiate additional terms and avenues the president can use” as means of securing amnesty for millions. “I think we can get 3 or 4, maybe even 5 million people,” he stated.

For an overview of Luis Gutierrez's voting record on numerous key issues during the course of his congressional career, click here.

For additional information on Luis Gutierrez, click here.

23 posted on 08/03/2014 6:37:49 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Gutierrez is an America hating terrorist racist slimebag subhuman piece of rat filth who regularly stabs Hispanics in the back. The Latin community should wake the hell up and see what this pig is doing to them, selling them out for votes. Do they really think allowing millions of illegals into the country is going to do wonders for them economically? They being sold out all so this rat filth can be reelected. He’s nothing but a traitor to the Hispanic community.

24 posted on 08/03/2014 7:12:13 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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