Skip to comments.Are you losing your state university? Illinois has
Posted on 08/04/2014 7:10:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The big business of education is forever altering the state university systems around the country. They have become vessels of profit and enrichment for some, and are steadily distancing themselves from the citizenry of the home state.
Hiding behind diversity and internationalism, universities have moved to out of state students and ultimately the international student. Left out are the in-state students looking for a reasonable cost of a college education from their own state university.
Why does college cost so much? Why does a professor who gave a lecture to a 200 seat hall ten years ago cost so much more to dispense the same knowledge today? Most of college-dispensed knowledge is static. Math, language, economics, literature, etc change little from decade to decade. Except for the sciences, essentially the base product remains the same.
So why does college cost so much? Part of the answer is that in-state slots are fewer and fewer, by design. Those who do not get the tuition break for in-state residence must go elsewhere at higher costs. The result being that a student who couldnt get into his state university A now pays out of state tuition to state university B. The student who resides in-state B and couldnt get into his university now becomes an out of state student at university A. The money game is easy to see. Both universities, A and B, get more money.
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From ROCK RIVER TIMES:
73 percent of the class of 2017 is from inside the state. The U of I long has had a goal to have three-quarters of its students come from Illinois high schools.
A decade ago, Illinois students made up 90 percent of the universitys classes.
The U of Is admissions director, Stacey Kostell, told the Tribune that the lower in-state numbers were not intentional.
But as the school sees fewer local students, foreign-born and out-of-state students have flocked to the school.
Nearly 16 percent of the University of Illinois freshman class is from China.
While it is good to have a good cross-section in our universities we still need to be concerned about the average Illinoisan being able to afford the U of I, state Rep. Mike Tryon, R-Crystal Lake, said.
It costs an Illinois student about $35,000 each year for tuition, room and board, fees and books at the U of I.
The university charges foreign students $52,000 for the same tuition, room and board, books and fees.
And that the $17,000 difference is incentive to accept more foreign students.
So why do these universities want to give in state rates to illegal aliens?
Two words, “Foreign Students.”
RE: Nearly 16 percent of the University of Illinois freshman class is from China.
Which makes me wonder, if China’s GDP per capita is on average MUCH LOWER than the USA, how did they manage to afford the tuition and board?
They want to give in state rates to illegals to prove that they are liberal. And, to send a message that they treat illegals the same as their own state residents, to blur any distinctions between illegals and American citizens. Which is also something liberals want to do in other areas of life.
Simple: try buying something NOT Made in China- - - .
It seems to me that all of us, in whatever state we live in, are supporting our state universities. These universities should be intended, in my opinion, for residents of our own states. Then, if there is room available after all state residents have been accepted, then accept out of state or foreign students.
Out of state or foreign students should not be getting preferences in any way in admissions. We taxpayers support these institutions of higher learning for our own state’s students.
Years ago, in-state students got preference. Nowadays, it appears that no longer applies.
But it should apply because we taxpayers pay for these universities. Taxpayers in other countries or other states do not pay their tax money to run these places.
Yeah, pretty unbelievable
But gotta pay those worthless overhead left wing professors
In Maine, tution and fees only pay 39% of the costs. So what are they doing, they are chasing after international students, paying a company to recruit students to come to school in Maine. The company gets paid 80% of first years tution and 20% of the other 3 years if they stay.
You will probably find your state school is queitly doing the same.
The University system also paid $363,000 for a former president of one of its campuses to produce a report on how to get more international students to come to Maine schools. This was at the same time they had already engaged a compay to do just that. I don’t think anyone ever read the report.
Government subsidies and/or wealthy Chinese families.
Also, it used to be most students who did go to the State university stayed and worked in that state after graduation.
These days, I suspect that is not nearly the case....Therefore, what does the state really get back in return?
If 27% of the students are in-state, then the Chinese must outnumber even out of state American students. These state universities are being subsidized by state taxpayers as well as by the federal government. Shouldn’t there be a much higher percentage of students from the state, by law?
When I was at U of Iowa, 30 percent of the students were from Illinois...
A couple of thoughts:
1. Yes, colleges love the out of state & international students because they often pay the full tuition price and get no financial aid. But the flip side is that, without these students, tuition prices for in-state students would be even higher.
2. Most universities these days are seeing a decrease in the student population. So, there likely ARE open slots at state universities, maybe just not in the top tier ones.
3. Except for the elite schools, the bottom third of the college/university students today should not be there. Many students in the middle third could make something out of college, but are not that motivated.
4. There are way too many administrators vs. faculty. At the school where I teach, they keep getting rid of faculty and adding administrators. Class sizes just keep getting bigger. I’ve lost track of the number of people with the title “Director”. It just boggles the mind.
These state universities are being subsidized by state taxpayers as well as by the federal government.
Which makes me wonder, if Chinas GDP per capita is on average MUCH LOWER than the USA, how did they manage to afford the tuition and board?
RE: Simple: try buying something NOT Made in China- - - .
I try to, but I have a budget...
Left out are the in-state students looking for a reasonable cost of a college education from their own state university.
Just like Washington, DC politicians no longer represent the interest of Americans, state universities (with the exception of a few solidly conservative states in the South, Midwest and Intermountain West) no longer represent the interests of their state residents.
The solution isn't to p*ss and moan or even, as some have suggested, try to reform the entrenched educrat bureaucracy. The solution is to start guiding your children, your friends and your grandchildren to private universities (or the few remaining public ones) which represent our values. These options are not only far more reasonable costwise (because their tuitions aren't subsidizing departments full of anti-American XYZ studies professors), but they deliver an equal or even better quality product.
A close relative of mine just started medical school at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia this month and was astounded to find that the quality of facilities, teaching, labs, etc. was even better than her first look-see at LU before she decided to apply.
News flash: You can spend your money on that kind of stuff when you aren't forced to subsidize termites. And your customers (students) can get a tuition break in the process. The advantages of taxpayer funding are vastly overrated.
Again, I'm excepting a few solidly conservative states in the South, Midwest and Intermountain West. Texas A&M, Clemson University, WVU, Wyoming and a few other state subsidized schools are well worth looking at. Just realize that they are the exception, not the rule for state subsidized schools.