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More than 1.6 million Americans do not have indoor plumbing.
Daily Mail ^ | 4-23-2014

Posted on 08/04/2014 9:41:56 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

What a stink!

Turns out more than a one-and-a-half million Americans are without indoor plumbing.

According to the latest American Community Survey, nearly 630,000 occupied households lack complete plumbing facilities.

It means that they are without one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub or shower, or running water.

Just sixty years ago a quarter of American homes had no flushing toilet.

So who doesn't have a flushing toilet?

Counties containing Indian reservations have astonishingly high percentages of households without plumbing.

14 percent of households in Shannon County, South Dakota don't have full plumbing.

In Apache County, Arizona., the rate is more than 17 percent.

Sparsely-populated census areas in Alaska also have very high percentages.

Counties along the Rio Grande in Texas have high rates of unplumbed households.

There are also homes in eastern Kentucky and West Virginia too.

In 1990, although homes that were without plumbing numbered less than 3 per cent across the entire United States, 12 per cent of properties in Arkansas were without flushing toilets.

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And they would have toilets if it weren't for that do nothing congress. /s
1 posted on 08/04/2014 9:41:56 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Less than one-half of one percent of the population. Pretty damn good, actually, compared to the rest of the world.


2 posted on 08/04/2014 9:44:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Citizen Zed

Big deal. Humanity survived for millennia without flushing toilets, and cleanly, too.


3 posted on 08/04/2014 9:45:58 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Citizen Zed

How can a county have an Indian reservation? Indian reservations are sovereign nations.


4 posted on 08/04/2014 9:46:52 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Citizen Zed

I can show them schools that lack flush toilets in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and even New York.
In fact, those schools have eight grades in one room!


5 posted on 08/04/2014 9:47:00 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Wiser now

How many of these “Americans” came from other countries where they didn’t have toilets?


6 posted on 08/04/2014 9:47:42 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is misleading. “properties” could be a vacant lot.

As you can also see from the article they refer to “complete” plumbing systems rather than completely without any plumbing.

We are going backwards anyway with todays low-flow and waterless toilet fixtures.

We are courting diseases again relating to human waste disposal.


7 posted on 08/04/2014 9:47:57 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: tcrlaf

A fair comparison would state the the percentage of people in Europe who don’t have indoor plumbing.


8 posted on 08/04/2014 9:48:40 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Why do 23 million on SNAP have cell phones and a large flat screen TV?


9 posted on 08/04/2014 9:51:14 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Citizen Zed

There are “border cities” in the desert with lots of Illegals waiting...waiting...


10 posted on 08/04/2014 9:52:01 AM PDT by Does so ("Miranda Warnings" and loss of "Common-Law Marriage" = 2 Big Mistakes...)
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To: Citizen Zed

I can think of at least 10 households in the rural area I live in that don’t have flush toilets. Without exception, they all house liberals. Most of them supposedly compost their feces and use it to ‘fertilize’ their gardens and trees.


11 posted on 08/04/2014 9:52:32 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: tcrlaf

Mexico has toilets but none of them work. K


12 posted on 08/04/2014 9:54:20 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: tcrlaf

Mexico has toilets but none of them work. K


13 posted on 08/04/2014 9:54:20 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Citizen Zed

“Counties containing Indian reservations have astonishingly high percentages of households without plumbing.”

Shocker of shockers, the most government intrusive cultures are the poorest. When the government prevents capitalism from “keeping people down” they are left in squalor.


14 posted on 08/04/2014 9:55:22 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Britain is chock full of Gypsies that do not have Toilets in their Homes.

They do not believe in it, thinking such activity should be done outside of the Residence or Trailers that they usually live in.


15 posted on 08/04/2014 9:57:33 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Things can always be worse and the Democrat Party is here to prove it.)
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To: tcrlaf

India has 1.3 billion people, and currently cellphones outnumber toilets there by quite a wide margin.

Go check that out then come back and tell me we have a problem.


16 posted on 08/04/2014 9:58:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Citizen Zed
Counties containing Indian reservations have astonishingly high percentages of households without plumbing.

But, but, but, isn't providing them with plumbing an assault on their traditional way of life? Who are we to impose our Eurocentric values on them?

17 posted on 08/04/2014 9:58:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Citizen Zed
So who doesn't have a flushing toilet?

Mr. Community Organizer did wonders with Federal money for low-cost housing.

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy

"About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition."

Explosive Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the "Family" and "Conscience" of Fannie Mae

18 posted on 08/04/2014 9:59:49 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Citizen Zed

what is the mystery here? Do these locations also not have electricity? This is not like trying to send someone to the moon.
1. dig a well lined with a 4” sleeve utilizing a submersible pump.
2. install a septic tank with a drain field.

Viola! modern-day plumbing!


19 posted on 08/04/2014 10:00:39 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Citizen Zed
True story. A cousin of mine on the Pine Ridge reservation couldn't understand why the government housing built there all had full sized bath tubs. Weather permitting, he liked to wash off in a nearby stream. Otherwise, a shower stall was fine.

But he found a good use for the bath tub: a hole in the wall with one of those flappy thick plastic curtains made a wonderful way for the horses to drink without having to worry about a stock tank outside which would make a constant mess and freeze up in the winter.

The whites pointed to his unauthorized housing modification as evidence that the savage race hadn't progressed much.

The Injuns pointed to it as evidence that Big White Government Father still had too much money and had learned nothing about our culture in over a century.

20 posted on 08/04/2014 10:00:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Citizen Zed
Sparsely-populated census areas in Alaska also have very high percentages.
Try installing a septic tank and drain field into permafrost - it's impossible in the bush and that's why they use honey buckets.
Could we ask the limeys what portion of their population have teeth that look like baked beans?
21 posted on 08/04/2014 10:01:29 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Citizen Zed

Nothing wrong with using an outhouse. Only problem is your children will be teased by other children at school and this can definitely be an issue. I knew a family who had this problem

I was in Europe a few decades and in a major city, Copenhagen. I visited friends in a 6 story apartment building. You had to take a sheeeeeet downstairs in an outbuilding that had plumbing. And in the UK there were still public baths for those who lacked one.

I cannot say for sure all units were set up like this but my friends was


22 posted on 08/04/2014 10:02:27 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Citizen Zed

we used to have a three holer,, colder than heck in the winter.

how many trillion has been spent the last 40 years by dems on a mission? great society? haaaa. flush that thought.. well, if ya have a toilet anyway. ;-}


23 posted on 08/04/2014 10:03:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Yea, do nothing congress, I’m running out of Ziploc bags!!!


24 posted on 08/04/2014 10:04:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Citizen Zed

I once went to Africa, and I kid you not... in this city the people did NOT even have outhouses. Nope, they just found a spot and pooped right out there in an open field next to the city.

No covering up with dirt or anything!


25 posted on 08/04/2014 10:07:17 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Citizen Zed

That is surprising! Our house in India had indoor flush toilets in early 1940’s! And we had elctricity, city sewers, and a rotary dial telephone. But no refrigerators. So food had to be cooked fresh every meal and any left overs were discarded because of the hot weather.


26 posted on 08/04/2014 10:07:30 AM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Shannon County, South Dakota IS the Pine Ridge Reservation. There is not even a county seat.

Call this racist if you wish, but a friend who have been there confirm that much of the housing (federal gov’t provided) has been destroyed by the inhabitants. Winter is very cold in SD and when the furnace first goes out, they don’t call the HVAC contractor. Instead they open a couple of windows and start a fire in the living room. So not having indoor plumbing is almost a given.


27 posted on 08/04/2014 10:12:18 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Citizen Zed

——it means that they are without one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub or shower, or running water.-——

Lots and lots older homes in the usa do not have a shower....everything else they have...

Are these homes included in the total...or is this a case of moronic reporters who can’t critically think beyond the eight grade...


28 posted on 08/04/2014 10:12:56 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Citizen Zed

There are things like composting toilets, but you can’t have one. Code won’t allow it.

I’m buying a house where the water was cut off. Apparently the occupants lived there without it so they filled the toilets to the tippy-top. (They smashed the windows and walls on their way out too.)

It’s not a society problem. There are plenty of homeless who use the streets and allies. I was in downtown Seattle when a homeless guy turned to a plate glass window and relieved himself.


29 posted on 08/04/2014 10:13:25 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: jonno

Like so much of life & society, there comes a point where one must be willing to do the work ... and some aren’t. Assistance can only go so far if the intended recipient isn’t willing.

I’m reminded of a missionary in a third-world country: he found a rope & tire, and made a swing for the local children to enjoy - and enjoy they did. On occasion, the knot came undone, they would tell him, and he would tie it back up again to their delight. Circumstances took a bad turn and he was obligated to leave for a few years. Upon his return, the locals swarmed him and took him to the swing. There he found the rope & tire, untied, on the ground. The parts had lain there for years, no local willing to re-tie it.


30 posted on 08/04/2014 10:14:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: Vigilanteman

I didn’t read your story until I’d posted mine but what you describe is absolutely consistent with what I’ve been told. In one sense, I give them credit for adapting what they were given in order to survive. All the modern conveniences are not part of their lifestyle and they really don’t care much when they are absent.


31 posted on 08/04/2014 10:15:00 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: BunnySlippers

Mexico has toilets but none of them work. K”

Back in the early 1980’s we drove from Kansas south to the west coast of Mexico. I remember going through several towns that had electric lights on rusted metal poles that didn’t work because they didn’t have any power. When we stopped to get gas one of the men working at the station spoke a little English and I asked him about them. He said, “Soon. It’s only been 5 years but it will be soon.”


32 posted on 08/04/2014 10:17:22 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Popman

I agree. It sounds like the reporter is being really stupid.

Yes, some people in the Boonies don’t have indoor toilets... so what?


33 posted on 08/04/2014 10:17:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Citizen Zed

Have no fear, all the illegals streaming across the border wiill have toilets. The only problem will be to teach them how to flush and put the seat up.


34 posted on 08/04/2014 10:18:08 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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Gee let's find out how many in England, Scotland, Ireland, France, Etc., or do we only care about America? Maybe these folks as a whole don't have a problem with it because they like the way they live, where they live. Or are we now to have a new Universal Service Fee so that not only are we paying to provide internet but also indoor plumbing to rural areas. Remember now it only feels like tax, it's really just a fee.
35 posted on 08/04/2014 10:19:14 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Citizen Zed

I call BS to this story. Even homeless people have water access!


36 posted on 08/04/2014 10:25:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: GeronL

None. The people I’m talking about are Amish.


37 posted on 08/04/2014 10:42:50 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: tcrlaf

That’s what I was thinking too. BTW, here in the Fairbanks interior region of Alaska dry cabins are quite common. Why? Cheaper living, people choose it. It’s a way of life for many people. It’s not a big deal. There are places for showers easily accessible, and Laundromats, I know some people who have old fashioned washing machines too.


38 posted on 08/04/2014 11:09:05 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Wait until 0 bummer reads about this crap in the NY Slimes or hears it on cnn. He will be pi$$ed.


39 posted on 08/04/2014 11:09:27 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: tcrlaf

Balance that statistic with how many stone age goat fornicators eschew the use of toilet paper, preferring to use their left hand.

See how civilized WE are?


40 posted on 08/04/2014 11:22:08 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Citizen Zed

Next up, “Obamatrines”!


41 posted on 08/04/2014 11:24:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

The article says “complete systems”.
How many of those “1.6 million” dump a “Blue Boy”, and don’t have a direct septic connection?


42 posted on 08/04/2014 11:24:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Citizen Zed

These percentage numbers will be reversed when the progressives have completed their fundamental change of America to a Third World country. Only our ruling elites will have working plumbing.


43 posted on 08/04/2014 11:40:48 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

The other day I learned why our neighbors are constantly going up and down between our houses. Because they’re “going” right outside my kitchen window. Yes, it is a very nice vacation house (one of at least 3 they own) with complete indoor plumbing. They’re white/hispanic (supposedly born in US), in the medical field and with at least 6 figure incomes. They’re whackadoodle libs but I never would have thought they’d do this. Yes, it does pizz me off.


44 posted on 08/04/2014 11:57:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Citizen Zed
There's been much reported on India. Does the posted 4-23-2014 article have anything to do with India? Like.."Hey! the U.S. is just as bad"?

I lived in eastern Kentucky and outhouses in the yard is a hell of a lot different than going on the ground behind a bush or something.

Aug. 3, 2014: India’s Toilet Race Failing as Villages Don’t Use Them

Problems caused when no facilities (like outhouses) are used: Another source says "Surprisingly, 'a child raised in India is far more likely to be malnourished than one from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Zimbabwe or Somalia, the planet’s poorest countries. Stunting affects 65 million Indian children under the age of 5, including a third of children from the country’s richest families,' wrote Harris."

45 posted on 08/04/2014 12:04:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dennisw

You don’t really need to have an outhouse anymore. There are some very nice indoor composting systems. I ran into them when I was looking for a compost toilet for our boat.

just an example.
http://letsgogreen.com/


46 posted on 08/04/2014 12:23:24 PM PDT by sheana
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To: tcrlaf

No kidding. My wife grew up during the 50s-60s and didn’t live in a house with indoor plumbing until she was 15.

In 2006 I believe there was a kind of state census in VA that had the statistic that about 1/3 of the VA households still had an outhouse rather than indoor plumbing.

It may be pretty good when compared with the turd world but when the whining privileged minorities complain because in spite of their indoor plumbing, cell phones, big screen TVs, cable and refrigerators, there is some amenity they don’t have that others do have.

The democrats and the do-gooders have always done more to bring indoor plumbing to third world crapholes and their “people” than they have to bring American citizens the same things.


47 posted on 08/04/2014 12:24:58 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: NormsRevenge

**we used to have a three holer,, colder than heck in the winter.**

Same here. My uncle got bit on the ****** by a black widow spider.


48 posted on 08/04/2014 1:49:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Citizen Zed

***12 per cent of properties in Arkansas were without flushing toilets.***

When we, as kids were dragged kicking and screaming from the Rockies to the Ozarks one of the first things we learned was if a house for sale ad said “modern” it meant an indoor toilet. I still remember lots of places we lived, including down town Denver CO that did not have an indoor toilet.

some people from Arkansas moved to Los Angeles and rented a house with an indoor toilet. When the toilet clogged up, they knocked a hole in the floor and used it for a long time.

A friend I worked with said some religious group bought a number of houses in Wisconsin. The first thing they did was take the commodes out and bust it up with a hammer.


49 posted on 08/04/2014 1:57:40 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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You cannot compare my childhood outhouse in Kentucky with the problems caused in other countries.

Poor Sanitation in India May Afflict Well-Fed Children With Malnutrition

Half of India’s population, or at least 620 million people, defecate outdoors. And while this share has declined slightly in the past decade, an analysis of census data shows that rapid population growth has meant that most Indians are being exposed to more human waste than ever before.

That means more diseases for a growing body to fight which some believe is why alimentary (small intestine) mucosa is smooth and not with folds (like a curtain) giving more area to absorb nutrients. There's plenty of good food and supplements.

The present research on gut diseases in children has focused on a condition resulting from repeated bacterial infections that flatten intestinal linings, reducing by a third the ability to absorb nutrients. A recent study of starving children found that they lacked the crucial gut bacteria needed to digest food.

50 posted on 08/04/2014 2:24:06 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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