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Columbia River dilemma: Kill cormorants to save fish?
Columbian ^ | Aug 2, 2014 | AP

Posted on 08/08/2014 4:38:51 PM PDT by Innovative

Now, the population of the cormorants on East Sand Island has burgeoned from about 100 breeding pairs to 14,900, and a federal agency wants to have thousands of the seabirds shot to protect the fish, including some that are protected or endangered.

The birds eat lots of endangered wild fish, as well as hatchery stocks — an estimated 11 million a year — mainly in May as the young fish head for their years in the ocean.

In June, the corps released its plan to kill 16,000 of the birds. A public comment period has been extended to Aug. 19.

She said the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service would issue permits for the shooting, which would be carried out by the Wildlife Services agency of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

(Excerpt) Read more at columbian.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: birds; cormorants; environment; fish; godcomplex; government; nature
Let's kill one species to protect another all because government knows best...
1 posted on 08/08/2014 4:38:52 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

so many tricky decisions to make once you start to play God


2 posted on 08/08/2014 4:41:33 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Innovative
Foe such smart people as they claim to be, do they not understand the role nature plays in creating the strongest, healthiest, most adapted of any species?

The lack of predatory birds serves to allow the slower and weaker offspring of the fish survive.

3 posted on 08/08/2014 4:46:23 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Innovative

Don’t do anything. The Cormorants will eat all the fish and then die of starvation ... problem solved. ;-)


4 posted on 08/08/2014 4:47:35 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Innovative

I saw this on PBS — the young salmon are given a boat ride down river and dumped there where the cormorants are just waiting for them on their own little breeding ground.


5 posted on 08/08/2014 4:48:28 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“Cormorants” Do they taste like chicken? Or Salmon?


6 posted on 08/08/2014 4:50:52 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Innovative

Nuts running the Loony Bin.

New Smyrna Beach FL (NSB) for decades was known as “The World’s Safest Bathing Beach”. Now, after they got a state net ban passed which has resulted in an abundance of baitfish inshore they prohibited commercial shark fishing within 3mi of the beach,in effect creating a marine sanctuary for sharks. Results:

Today, NSB is known as “The Shark Bite Capitol of The World”


7 posted on 08/08/2014 4:57:03 PM PDT by Captain7seas (Beware of "enviromentalist" spewing lies)
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To: Innovative

Let’s just give the fish EBT cards. Subsidize them. Problem solved.


8 posted on 08/08/2014 5:00:55 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Definitely fish. Even in Ancient Rome, recipes for [wild] waterfowl included multiple washings in an attempt to lessen the fishiness.


9 posted on 08/08/2014 5:03:13 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Innovative

If cormorants have any redeeming qualities, I don’t know what they are.


10 posted on 08/08/2014 5:06:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Innovative
Tommy Huntington.... expressed consternation at the plan to shoot the birds: "I can't believe in this day and age we can't come up with an alternative solution to killing things," he said. "You have to kill one to save the other one? It doesn't make any sense."

What does this hockey puck think happens on the food chain every day? What planet does he live on?

11 posted on 08/08/2014 5:09:13 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Innovative

Sounds like a good place to stock with bald eagles!


12 posted on 08/08/2014 5:13:21 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ("Thou greedy devoring cormorant Time....")
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To: beebuster2000
so many tricky decisions to make once you start to play God

Fantasia - Sorcerer's Apprentice

13 posted on 08/08/2014 5:17:26 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "Our Emperor may have no clothes, but doesn't he have a wonderful tan" - MSM)
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To: Innovative

You can’t truck Fish and Wildlife. Most of our wildlife problems in this State can be traced back to their ineptitude. There is nothing like and educated fool.


14 posted on 08/08/2014 5:18:21 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Uncle Chip
I saw this on PBS — the young salmon are given a boat ride down river and dumped there where the cormorants are just waiting for them on their own little breeding ground.

A number of years ago, these idiots came up with the idea to open up the dams and let the rushing water in the Yakima and other rivers flush the salmon smolt to the Columbia and out to sea.

Problem, the fast, rushing water became nitrogenated, killed the fish and the dead smolt piled up behind the dams on the Columbia .

Educated idiots!

15 posted on 08/08/2014 5:21:41 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Innovative

government isn’t god.

stop killing our wildlife. let’wildlife determine what wildlife survives and whats doesn’t.

this is why we are in such a mess. we think we just know how everything works and is supposed to work, but we really don’t. global warming crap. inaccurate models. using fear and false results ‘to push policy and reduce quality of life.


16 posted on 08/08/2014 5:28:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Innovative

Best bet would be to truck EPA, NOAA, Fish & Wildlife, Interior, Agriculture, etc. personnel down to the ocean and dump them in the “protected shark area”.


17 posted on 08/08/2014 5:34:42 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (His Arrogance would love to replace John Kerry-Heinz but all the trained monkeys turned him down.)
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To: Innovative

There’s only one answer......sharks with frickin’ lasers on their heads.


18 posted on 08/08/2014 5:40:53 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Innovative
young fish head

Wha?

19 posted on 08/08/2014 5:47:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Innovative

Meanwhile, you can walk across the backs of the sea lions at the mouth of the Columbia. Which is only 5 miles wide...

When I was a kid the dreaded predator was the lamprey, that gave way to the northern pike which was introduced to kill the lamprey, which then started to eat the salmon and steelhead eggs and fry, which now has a $3/head bounty paid by the state to get rid of them.

And now the tribes are claiming that the lamprey was a ceremonial fish species so they are trying to re-establish that back into the river, all the while protecting the seals and sea lions which devour the salmon and steelhead.


20 posted on 08/08/2014 5:50:33 PM PDT by shotgun
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You all know me. You know that I can take care of this cormorant problem for you. But, I’ll need some supplies. Get me a fly swatter, three gallons of Elmer’s glue and a Snickers bar. I missed lunch.
I’m also going to need some help. I’ll take the urologist and that kid from the grade school who can play FEELINGS with his armpit.


21 posted on 08/08/2014 6:32:16 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blackdog

“The lack of predatory birds serves to allow the slower and weaker offspring of the fish survive.”

Those would be the hatchery fish that we spent so money on to raise.


22 posted on 08/08/2014 6:37:42 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

They taste like salmon on the wing.


23 posted on 08/08/2014 6:38:28 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The clue here is dumping the young salmon. Cormorants and other predators can figure that out and prey on the little fish.

Who is running that operation, a bunch of dummies?


24 posted on 08/08/2014 6:57:36 PM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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To: Innovative

HAHAHA. This decision brought to you by bureaucrats who also killed off the seals to protect stupid fish.

If these salmon are so endangered maybe these fools can go to the grocery store. It’s always on sale.


25 posted on 08/08/2014 7:08:47 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Innovative
Leftist say they believe in evolution, but they don't like natural selection, even though it's the driving force behind evolution.

26 posted on 08/08/2014 7:09:18 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: smokingfrog; All
If cormorants have any redeeming qualities, I don’t know what they are.

Hey, speaking as a wharf rat, you gotta respect and admire cormorants. They're hell divers. They work for a living, hunting fish by diving deep and long, and they're always very cool to watch. They aren't like seals and sea lions, which destroy and sink boats and docks by laying on them safely as "protected" species whom the vessel and dock owners are prohibited from "molesting," nor do cormorants steal cash in the form of hooked albacore or such from boats that fish commercially, like the protected mammals do. Cormorants don't eat the tiniest fraction of fish and shellfish consumed by seals, sea lions, otters, etc., all of whose numbers on the California coast have easily quadrupled over the last 50 years.

Trying to reserve a status quo population "balance" in nature is like trying to freeze-frame an ocean wave and measuring all future waves against it: plain lunacy. Nature surges forward with zero regard to any status quo, and human attempts to "preserve" it are all vanities.

27 posted on 08/08/2014 7:39:21 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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