Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bee, scorpion and snake venom may hold cancer cure
CNN ^ | Aug 12, 2014 | Jen Christensen

Posted on 08/17/2014 8:05:51 AM PDT by Innovative

A scientist at the University of Illinois, Dipanjan Pan, and his team say they may have found a way to stop cancer cell growth, according to a paper presented at the American Chemical Society conference this week.

The work is in very early stages, but has shown success in stopping breast cancer and melanoma cell growth in lab tests. Pan's technique uses nanotechnology to deliver a synthesized element similar to the venom found in bees, snakes and scorpions.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bees; beevenom; cancer; cancercure; nanotechnology; snakevenom
More promising potential cures.
1 posted on 08/17/2014 8:05:51 AM PDT by Innovative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Tired of Taxes

cancer ping


2 posted on 08/17/2014 8:06:16 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

“Pan’s technique uses nanotechnology to deliver a synthesized element similar to the venom found in bees, snakes and scorpions.”

That is just ever so slightly different from what the headline suggests. CNN’s headline makes it sound like rubbing some snake venom on it will cure cancer. The technology is fascinating, and sounds promising. Maybe people will read past the goofy headline.


3 posted on 08/17/2014 8:12:58 AM PDT by cdcdawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
Bee, scorpion and snake venom may hold cancer cure, or maybe not. Millions in federal grants will be needed to find out.

Results will be released in 2021, just prior to the lead researchers retiring.

4 posted on 08/17/2014 8:17:07 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

If I found out I had cancer, I’d take a single, 30 200mg pure grape seed extract capsules and see how much existed after a week or two.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061018093946.htm

That’s roughly the amount this study used for my physical weight. Grape seed extract is GRAS.

There are plenty of newer studies for grape seed extract to support this. However, direct human studies, and not mouse, are only now under way.

When something blows up cancer cells and it’s cheap, funding isn’t as easily available.

Both the polyphenols and the gallic acid have been shown to impact cancer.

I’m not a doctor, so this for what it’s worth. There’s more to this than I can say here, though.


5 posted on 08/17/2014 8:28:40 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
"More promising potential cures."

...that we'll never hear about again.

6 posted on 08/17/2014 8:34:18 AM PDT by daler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

Not at all surprised to read this. As a general rule, the word among beekeepers is that beekeepers do not get cancer. In all my years of keeping bees, I’ve known only two bee keepers who had cancer. One of them was a very well known guy in California who died from cancer and myself who in four more months will be labeled “cancer free”. The implication is that honey been venom protects a body from cancer.

As for the article’s claim that honey bee venom is damaging to the heart, I have never heard this before and I question the source of this comment. Bee venom, for example, has been shown to lower blood pressure (a South Korean study) by an average of 20 points on both sides of the BP scale.


7 posted on 08/17/2014 8:35:16 AM PDT by miele man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
CNN’s headline makes it sound like rubbing some snake venom on it will cure cancer.

Possibly because the writer was aware of the use of snake venom by the alternative medicine crowd.

8 posted on 08/17/2014 8:46:15 AM PDT by fso301
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

“I’d take a single, 30 200mg pure grape seed extract
capsules”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I’m trying to figure out what a “single, 30 capsules” means.


9 posted on 08/17/2014 9:02:33 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: miele man

Growing up on the farm I was stung many times by wild bees which were very common then and it never was a big deal to me bit the paper making wasps were different. My mother was stung on the wrist by three of the little striped boogers we called “Guinea wasps” at one time and she said that she thought for a short time that she would die. She sat on the ground and looked very weak, she said that it felt as if her heart would jump out of her chest.


10 posted on 08/17/2014 9:07:22 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
has shown success in stopping breast cancer and melanoma cell growth in lab tests.

There are hundreds of chemicals that will kill cancer in lab tests. Unfortunately, most don't work in the human body.

11 posted on 08/17/2014 9:13:21 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RipSawyer; ConservativeMind

Grapes contains resveratrol — it supposed to have a lot of healing properties, possibly treat cancer.

Resveratrol in Grape Skins Could Help Treat Cancer and More

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/28/resveratrol-cancer-prevention.aspx

I don’t know about grape seeds, but here is a recent article on it:

Active component of grape seed extract effective against cancer cells

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131204181246.htm

My guess is that the 30 200 mg should be 30-200mg — it contains 30 mg of something combined with 200 mg of something else — one of which is probably grape seed extract.


12 posted on 08/17/2014 9:51:47 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: RipSawyer

Typing on my iPhone can do that. Sorry about that.

I meant to say, “a single dose of 30, 200mg.”


13 posted on 08/17/2014 9:52:41 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

Si, thanks for noting my typo. Using my iPhone today.


14 posted on 08/17/2014 9:53:29 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
The work is in very early stages,

Which means it's just like the thousands of similar claims that have been made over the years.

15 posted on 08/17/2014 9:55:06 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind; RipSawyer

OK — thanks for the clarification, I guess you mean 200 mg of grapeseed extract — whichever way one can get it. :)

I did a quick search, found it at Swanson’s vitamins — quite inexpensive and it couldn’t hurt.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-superior-herbs-grapeseed-extract-standardized-200-mg-120-caps?otherSize=SWH081&SourceCode=INTL405&CAWELAID=129499434&mkwid=d1YC7DOf&pcrid=54515848927&gclid=CJyKqLPimsACFQGRaQodInIAJw


16 posted on 08/17/2014 9:57:31 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: RipSawyer

Been there, done that, have the tee shirt and still the small pit on my nose.

Once when moving hives, I was tagged by the bees about 40 times on my head. It was no picnic but now, if I get stung on the face, the pain may last 5 or 10 seconds and that is it. No big deal.

Now, three summers ago, while trimming some bushes a wasp or hornet tagged me on the bridge of my nose. Durn thing hurt for several weeks, a hole developed from the destroyed skin cells (much like the aftermath of a volcano where the cone is inverted with the top and inside being empty). I still have this indentation.

Chemically, the venom of a wasp or hornet or yellow jacket is different from honey been venom. Honey bees don’t eat meat whereas other bees do and will. Nasty effects from the meat eater’s venom.


17 posted on 08/17/2014 9:57:47 AM PDT by miele man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: miele man
As a general rule, the word among beekeepers is that beekeepers do not get cancer.

I've never been stung by a bee in my whole life. Diagnosed with cancer at age 46. This article does make you wonder if A is connected to B somehow.

BTW, best wishes to you! It's a scary ride, but you'll get through it, too. :-)

18 posted on 08/17/2014 10:37:39 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

Thanks, Innovative. There was an earlier thread I already pinged to: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3191893/posts

But I’m glad you posted the article, too, so that more people will see it. These studies always sound so hopeful, but will they ever come to pass?


19 posted on 08/17/2014 10:41:33 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: miele man

A friend of mine who is a beekeeper told me about that many years ago. I keep thinking I should get some bees to sting me now and then. I know the pain wouldn’t be that bad and very temporary but I’m just too chicken to do it.


20 posted on 08/17/2014 11:15:41 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

MAY? Here comes smore grant requests!


21 posted on 08/17/2014 12:07:56 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson