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The 3 Dumbest Things About Whole Foods Market
Forbes ^ | August 18, 2014 | Steven Salzberg

Posted on 08/19/2014 10:43:58 AM PDT by EveningStar

I have a love-hate relationship with Whole Foods Market. On the one hand, I love their fresh produce, their baked goods, and many other food choices there. On the other hand, they have embraced anti-science positions in the interest of keeping everything "natural."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: junkscience; wholefoods; wholefoodsmarket; wholepaycheck
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1 posted on 08/19/2014 10:43:58 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

They are good but expensive.

Their deli sandwiches just went up from 7.99 to ten bucks.

You find many of the same products at Vons for dollars less.


2 posted on 08/19/2014 10:48:40 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: EveningStar

There is increasing customer demand for non-GMO options. Whole Foods generally has to rely on niche customers to sustain its pricing model. Offering non-GMO options is a logical play to that base of customers.

The author does not like the fact that they stock homeopathic remedies as well. This fellow does not appear to be a great fan of free choice in general.


3 posted on 08/19/2014 10:51:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EveningStar

I don’t like the nasty look I get when I ask for a paper bag. (apparently I just killed a tree).

I don’t like that they give 5% of their profits “back to the community”. They owe the “community” nothing and that 5% has been added to the price of their goods which costs me.

I don’t like the sea of “Obama” stickers in their parking lot.

I don’t like that 90% of their employees are covered with tattoos and ear gauges.

I don’t go anymore.


4 posted on 08/19/2014 10:53:12 AM PDT by albie
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To: EveningStar

Whole Foods.....also know as Whole Pay Check because of their pricing. I get just as good, or better, quality from the gardens I work so hard in every year.

And all it costs me is my time and labor.....


5 posted on 08/19/2014 10:54:27 AM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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6 posted on 08/19/2014 10:56:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: EveningStar
America’s Angriest Store: How Whole Foods Attracts Complete ****heads. - funny article with a bit of adult language.
7 posted on 08/19/2014 10:57:29 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: EveningStar

They are like politicians who cater to people’s ignorance.


8 posted on 08/19/2014 10:58:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“The author does not like the fact that they stock homeopathic remedies as well.”

Most health additives are a scam. Homeopathic remedies are the ultimate scam.


9 posted on 08/19/2014 10:58:40 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: GT Vander
If you live in the Metroplex, check out Sprouts. The store I go to is in Coppell, a conservative town. The produce is much fresher than you'll find at Costco or any large supermarket.

Oh yeah, their background music slays me: rock from the 60s and 70s. lol

10 posted on 08/19/2014 11:00:24 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: EveningStar
To each his own. You know exactly what to expect and get when you go into Whole Foods.

Kinda like complaining that you go Bass Pro Shops for the fishing equipment but you're against guns being sold there.

Odd author.

11 posted on 08/19/2014 11:00:26 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: EveningStar

I gradually stopped shopping there. Some interesting things, some weird things.

But the prices are way too high, the aisles too cramped and the customer base way too earthy-crunchy. I have a suspicion that many of them find deodorant harms the environment.

And I went in there on more than one occasion in coat and tie and got the Donald Sutherland “not one of us” stare from many of the hippie libs.


12 posted on 08/19/2014 11:00:26 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: EveningStar
If you don't like it, don't shop there.

Just like the Walmart haters. Just don't shop there.

But, now that we are in an era of crony capitalism where people use government to shut down any business they don't like, every business has to be on guard and pay the vig, er, the "donations."

13 posted on 08/19/2014 11:00:33 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Buckeye McFrog

He doesn’t like X,Y, or Z so he’s opposed to free choice??? I didn’t see him propose a law banning X, Y, or Z. I suspect that there are many things you do not like (Obama for one), this does not mean you oppose free choice.


14 posted on 08/19/2014 11:03:55 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: EveningStar
Just the place I need to go for $7 a pound hamburger meat...


15 posted on 08/19/2014 11:04:43 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: EveningStar

Whole Foods is a master of marketing. They’re displays are hard to resist, and they can charge high prices to the gullible.


16 posted on 08/19/2014 11:05:33 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: LostInBayport

You should see the crowd at the Cambridge Massachusetts Whole Foods.

A friend shops there and I have been as well.

Its comedy gold.


17 posted on 08/19/2014 11:08:32 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: EveningStar

Think “enviro kids” cereal. Or was it “eco kids”.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 11:10:04 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Theoria

I like to pop in and ask where the malt liquor and slim jims are.


19 posted on 08/19/2014 11:10:58 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: albie

I agree with all of that....ALL true!

I only go there because my wife likes to buy a few (fortunately ONLY a few considering the prices in that store) items there.

Another myth worth exploding: I have yet to see any study at all which proves that organic food is healthier than non-organic food. It seems to me slapping an organic sticker on some item in the store is just an excuse to charge higher prices. So far I think the whole thing is a scam.


20 posted on 08/19/2014 11:11:14 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: albie
I don’t like that they give 5% of their profits “back to the community”. They owe the “community” nothing and that 5% has been added to the price of their goods which costs me.

Their logic is so convoluted.

By providing employment at market wages for the locals, they are indeed giving to the community. Every dollar they pay in wages eventually ripples into 3 or 4 dollars.

By charging higher than market prices they could be said to be removing money from the local economy. Money that could be put into other, more productive purposes.

21 posted on 08/19/2014 11:12:25 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: EveningStar

22 posted on 08/19/2014 11:15:55 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: EveningStar

So they won’t sell aspirin??

Aspirin in the Ancient World

Aspirin was first produced 110 years ago, but the natural form, salicylic acid, found in plants (i.e. the willow and myrtle) has been used for thousands of years.
As early as 3000 BC, the ancient Egyptians used willow bark and myrtle to reduce pain and fever
By 30 AD, Greek and Roman physicians suggested the use of willow leaf to treat inflammation.

A Victorian Era Discovery

The natural form of aspirin, salicylic acid, was associated with an awful taste and often induced upset stomachs and vomiting. In 1853, scientist Charles Fredric Gerhardt was the first to prepare ASA by the addition of an acetyl chemical to natural salicylic acid, however this form was said to be unstable.
In 1897, Felix Hoffmann (a young chemist working for Bayer) independently made ASA in a more chemically pure, stable and more palatable form. Hoffman’s father had utilised sodium salicylate for rheumatic pain (to make it easier on the stomach).
Two years later, on March 6, 1899, aspirin was trademarked under the Imperial Office of Berlin.
When war broke out in 1914 the Allies lost their source of aspirin and so they offered large prizes for anyone who could make aspirin. When the war ended the Allies forced the Germans to give up their patent.


23 posted on 08/19/2014 11:16:01 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: martin_fierro

They just opened a new Whole Foods in Red Hampshire yesterday, and I love the damn zoo...thanks for the tip!


24 posted on 08/19/2014 11:17:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: EveningStar
I find myself going there for more & more --

* Decent pasta & sauces at very cheap prices.
* Fresh made peanut butter.
* Good selection of produce. Some of it even tastes OK - unlike big box stores' bland, tasteless veggies.
* Fresh bread.
* Draft beer with growlers available.
* Soda without sugar or fake sugar.
* Best selection of snack chips & salsas.

25 posted on 08/19/2014 11:19:17 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: glorgau

Well, that guy’s article might be considered humor but its an accurate portrayal of WF.

Seen it up close and personal including the rage vibrating through them when they do not know how to react.

Just a crowd of self important, smug clowns the lot of them.


26 posted on 08/19/2014 11:19:33 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: colorado tanker

We do shop there, but only as a once-in-a-while treat. It’s too expensive for us to go there regularly.


27 posted on 08/19/2014 11:19:47 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Night Hides Not

Sprouts is awesome! Cheap too. It was dirt cheap prior to 2008.


28 posted on 08/19/2014 11:21:24 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: GT Vander
I get just as good, or better, quality from the gardens I work so hard in every year.

I have a garden loaded with tomatoes that Whole Foods couldn't match up with in their wildest imagination...

29 posted on 08/19/2014 11:22:42 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: EveningStar

We have Sprouts here. Same basic concept but a lot cheaper.


30 posted on 08/19/2014 11:23:36 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: EveningStar

Their stock is tanking. Even lo-info Leftists have caught on that they are being ripped off by WF pricing.


31 posted on 08/19/2014 11:26:54 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: colorado tanker

We have Sprouts here too.


32 posted on 08/19/2014 11:27:24 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: albie

Interesting, I’ve never bothered to ask and I have never received anything but a paper bag from my local Whole Foods.

Except the 5% thing, none of your other gripes really apply to my local Whole Foods store either. However, I live in a very conservative area and I’m guessing the circus freaks would be bad for business. I think a lot of people around here shop there because they have a better selection for certain foods than other stores, particularly when it comes to cheeses.


33 posted on 08/19/2014 11:27:42 AM PDT by Bill93
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I have yet to see any study at all which proves that organic food is healthier than non-organic food.
Google - Organic Food Is Not Healthier - and you'll find plenty ... like this one.
34 posted on 08/19/2014 11:28:47 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: gdani

You can also review the quality standards on their website for the ingredients that will not be in any of the products they carry. High fructose corn syrup is one of them, so you know from the outset that nothing they sell will have that ingredient.


35 posted on 08/19/2014 11:29:23 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

so manufactures learn to rename the banned product. (ie MSG comes under different names)


36 posted on 08/19/2014 11:30:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bill93

Same for me. I’ve never goten anything other than paper bags for the 5 years our WF has been open. They are great for fish and meat. I don’t eat bread but the bakery is good for those who do. I’m allergic to some soaps and shaving creams mass produced and they carry more “natural” ones that don’t affect me. I get fresh ground peanut butter, olive oil and local honey there cheap. Also have a good wine selection.

The Obama stickers on the Prius’s are the customers...


37 posted on 08/19/2014 11:32:58 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: EveningStar

Several years ago there was a Tea Party rally in front of one in Dallas. I went inside to get a drink. Once was enough for me.


38 posted on 08/19/2014 11:33:25 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: oh8eleven

Thanks for that. Just read it.

I read a similar article in the Investor’s Business Daily a few years ago about a study on organic foods which concluded that there were no particular health benefits consuming organic foods.

Yes we can all benefit having a healthier diet including more fruits and vegetables, poultry and fish, less red meat, less fried foods, less fast food and junk food. But that is just common sense. No need to go to extremes or expensive fads.


39 posted on 08/19/2014 11:38:04 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: albie
I don’t like the sea of “Obama” stickers in their parking lot.

All attached to vehicles with MSRPs not less than $60,000 I've noticed.


40 posted on 08/19/2014 11:38:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EveningStar

I have no reason to go there-the prices at Whole Foods are already high-and since I live over 50 miles from the nearest one, add some gas for my 4x4 to the price.

I follow a natural lifestyle-no processed food, avoid GMO foods, no drugs, only homeopathic remedies-yes I do keep aspirin, too. I know the vegetables I grow are non-GMO, and I can buy grass fed/free range meat and chicken at the locker plant or the grocery store in the nearest town, 20 miles away. There are several companies online that offer organic flour and other grains, and a family owned natural grain mill 100 miles from here. It is all cheaper than Whole Foods, and not in a snooty liberal neighborhood, like they are...


41 posted on 08/19/2014 11:39:27 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Have you seen the price of arugula there?


42 posted on 08/19/2014 11:45:25 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: EveningStar

Their Icelandic Sirius 70% dark chocolate is worth a trip to the store for me. I buy several bars each time I go. Nothing else in the store is worth what they charge for it.


43 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“All attached to vehicles with MSRPs not less than $60,000 I’ve noticed. “

Indeed, and around Colorado a preponderance of big, heavy, NEW, gas-guzzling SUVs.


44 posted on 08/19/2014 11:49:42 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
No need to go to extremes or expensive fads.
But that's what the loony-left will DEMAND that you do ... just because they refuse to believe they're wrong.
45 posted on 08/19/2014 11:50:07 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: muir_redwoods

“Their Icelandic Sirius 70% dark chocolate is worth a trip to the store for me. I buy several bars each time I go. Nothing else in the store is worth what they charge for it.”

Try some ChocoLove bars sometime, which can be had almost anywhere. Made with Belgium chocolate, and lots of options. Not THE best chocolate in the world, but damn good, and excellent for the price.


46 posted on 08/19/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Freestate316

“Have you seen the price of arugula there?”

OMG! The price of arugula has skyrocketed, you say at Whole Foods? Whatever will I do now? BTW, what is arugula ...


47 posted on 08/19/2014 11:53:23 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: EveningStar
I've set foot in a Whole Foods once...about 20 years ago with a friend.I was stunned to see $10/lb chicken back then.I've never set foot in one since partially for political reasons (far too many “think globally,act locally” bumper stickers on Volvos and Range Rovers) and partially financial (I refuse to pay even $10 for a pound of chicken,let alone what they're charging today).
48 posted on 08/19/2014 11:55:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: EveningStar

I have a love hate with them too. I love the stuff but hate the prices. The olive bar is my fav. And the fresh Quail.


49 posted on 08/19/2014 11:57:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: EveningStar

I fricking HATE Whole Foods. Not the store itself or even their absurdly high prices, but the denizens who frequent it. At least the one in Boulder, anyway. A nauseous mix of CU Profs, CU Profs’ wives, rich CU students, gov workers from the many gov labs in Boulder, gov workers’ wives, assorted hippies, and other “Progressive” scum.

There’s no place there for anyone who isn’t rich, beautiful and/or young. Heaven help you if you’re older and don’t look and act like some stoner hippie. Regular folk draw stares and scowls. The scum can HAVE the Whole Foods in Boulder as far as I’m concerned, but I’ll never step foot in the place again.


50 posted on 08/19/2014 11:58:15 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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