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Pamela Anderson, Carey Hart Slam ALS Ice Bucket Challenge in Online Rants
Us Weekly ^ | August 21, 2014 | Javy Rodriguez

Posted on 08/21/2014 2:46:52 PM PDT by EveningStar

Cool it! While Hollywood has accepted the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge in droves, uploading often-creative, LOL videos and nominating each other, Pamela Anderson and Carey Hart took to their social media pages to criticize the viral campaign, meant to raise funds for Lou Gehrig's disease research.

On Wednesday Aug. 20, Anderson, a longtime supporter of animal rights, posted a Facebook message criticizing ALS researchers for their research practices...

The next morning, on Thursday, Aug. 21, Hart similarly railed against those who have hopped on the ice bucket bandwagon...

(Excerpt) Read more at usmagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: als; careyhart; icebucket; icebucketchallenge; icechallenge; lougehrigsdisease; pamelaanderson

1 posted on 08/21/2014 2:46:52 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Pammy Anderson - what a boob.


2 posted on 08/21/2014 2:50:39 PM PDT by DManA
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To: EveningStar

27.6% of donations go to cover admin. I am not sure how this compares to other charities.


3 posted on 08/21/2014 2:52:30 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: EveningStar

I know nothing about ALS research methods, but I’m on board with the point that an “Ice Bucket Challenge” is pretty frigging stupid.


4 posted on 08/21/2014 2:53:34 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: DManA

True, but the campaign needs to be criticized. It is one of worse run charity in the United States. Giving less than 20% of the money collected to charity. The Director makes over $300,000 not counting perks. The lowest person’s listed salary is $108,000 (secretary). Other expenses exceed the amount they give to ALS clinics two fold.

I can’t imagine how they are going to spend this new influx of money. It certainly will not be on charity.


5 posted on 08/21/2014 2:57:21 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: Ingtar

Many NFPs are scams to enrich a cabal of executives. End corporate taxation.


6 posted on 08/21/2014 2:57:42 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ingtar

Other expenses I think is over 30%.


7 posted on 08/21/2014 2:58:32 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: EveningStar

I did it. Worthy cause, even if silly gimmick. Lost a friend to this thing. ALS is the worst thing you can hear from a doctor. Incurable disease that tortures horribly, disables, degrades, and lowers you, leaving you fully aware of what is happening for years. Merciless, unstoppable, and incurable. I would rather have the worst cancer than ALS. I oppose euthanasia and suicide because of my faith, but if I heard that diagnoses from a doctor, I would have to give my guns to a friend because I would not trust myself with them.


8 posted on 08/21/2014 3:00:08 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak

I might be wrong... I listened to someone instead of research. So, if wrong sorry.


9 posted on 08/21/2014 3:04:14 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: BushCountry

Was not wrong about the director...

$384,252 3.95% Steven Perrin Chief Executive Officer, CSO


10 posted on 08/21/2014 3:05:37 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: BurningOak

Everything you said, I am in complete agreement. I, too lost a friend to ALS.


11 posted on 08/21/2014 3:06:04 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: EveningStar
Peyton Manning and a few other Broncos did this. With about 3" of water in the bucket.

Dude, if you're going to do it, do it with a full bucket.

Symbolism over substance.

12 posted on 08/21/2014 3:08:56 PM PDT by real saxophonist (More Cowbell)
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To: BushCountry

I made a crude joke. You make a good point.


13 posted on 08/21/2014 3:11:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Ingtar

That’s incredibly low.

The real tell is what percentage of gross revenue actually gets paid out to beneficiaries. It usually runs from 3-7% of the gross take.

Foundations are great money makers. Ask Michael Moore and Hillary Clinton.


14 posted on 08/21/2014 3:13:11 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: EveningStar

Some enviro was on facebook yesterday ranting about the wasting of millions of gallons of water!

It was a scream.


15 posted on 08/21/2014 3:16:06 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: DManA
Their Annual Report, not much goes to charity.
16 posted on 08/21/2014 3:16:48 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: Ingtar

Catholic Charities is somewhere around 4% admin.IFIRC.


17 posted on 08/21/2014 3:22:16 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: BurningOak

I also lost a friend to ALS in 2012, and a cousin (though I didn’t really know him) in 2009. You are absolutely right in your depiction of the disease.


18 posted on 08/21/2014 3:23:16 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: EveningStar

Seen a graphic on facebook supporting the “Plastic Bag Challenge to Cure Stupidity” - you can probably imagine, it was a simple challenge: stick a plastic bag over your head and keep it there...I was thinking it would be a GREAT gimmick for raising awareness and would itself cure the world of liberalism! =D


19 posted on 08/21/2014 3:29:58 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: BushCountry

Does anyone know of another charity with a focus on ALS? I got nominated and need to donate...but don’t want to waste my money if it goes to admin fees and salaries.


20 posted on 08/21/2014 4:03:02 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: real saxophonist
New England Patriots Ice Bucket Challenge

And probably the last person you want holding the ice to dump is Gronk...

He can hold a large bucket, and there might be some empties...and fulls left in that ice...:)

21 posted on 08/21/2014 4:06:27 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Anyone who will shift their stance so fluidly in the pursuit of support isn't worth supporting.")
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To: EveningStar
Not every Ice bucket challenge participant is funding the same charity. The Pittsburgh Penguins did this weeks ago to fund research set up by the Celluci family at the University of Massachusetts. Given the publicity it got around here, I hope it's a good one, one the animal rights wackos wouldn't like. UMass ALS Cellucci Fund
22 posted on 08/21/2014 4:09:43 PM PDT by Varda
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To: BushCountry

Be careful which organization you are picking.

There is also The ALS Association which seems to be plenty above board since the reviews I have found online seem pretty positive from charity review sites.

http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/national/human-services/als-association-amyotrophic-lateral-sclerosis-association-in-washington-dc-2065

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3296#.U_Z_lLxdWWw

http://www.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx


23 posted on 08/21/2014 4:30:17 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: EveningStar
On Wednesday Aug. 20, Anderson, a longtime supporter of animal rights, posted a Facebook message criticizing ALS researchers for their research practices...

I always consult Pamela Anderson on matters related to good health and scientific research. / S

After all, she is a human petri dish. : ),

24 posted on 08/21/2014 4:46:01 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: BurningOak

My mother lost a very good friend to this disease. It really was the kind of thing that makes you question your faith.

She was the most queenly, dignified woman you’d ever want to meet. She went to the opera regularly and traveled in some very high class circles in NYC.

But, she was good friends with my mom, who was not quite at that exalted level.

To this very day I cannot believe that of all the things that could be inflicted upon a person by an uncaring universe, that ALS was inflicted on M.

I understand what people are saying on this thread, but it is one of the very few charities I give money to.

(No, I have not dumped a bucket of water on my head, not recently anyway.)

But, say what we will, this is one of the most brilliant fundraisers anyone has ever come up with, so I’d say that person at least earned their pay.


25 posted on 08/21/2014 4:51:59 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: drbuzzard
Their Gift Planner (whatever that is) makes $115,000 a year. Their President and CEO only gets $290,000 a year. So, I guess a better run charity. But again, not one person listed on their payroll gets under $120,000 a year.

ALS Association's 990

26 posted on 08/21/2014 5:01:21 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: jocon307

I pray that the 30,000,000 they raise from this challenge all goes to a cure. I hope the charity is not tempted to divvy up the funds amongst themselves, since this is outside their normal revenue stream. We’ll see...


27 posted on 08/21/2014 5:10:32 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: jocon307

Sorry about your mother’s friend. Sadly, disease does not discriminate between good and bad people (not that anyone good or bad deserves ALS).

The campaign is worthy for making ALS a household name, even if the people running it are less than selfless (although personally I have no reason to question their motivation). Its a terrible disease that deserves public awareness and the research funding that comes with that.

As for the ice bucket, not so bad. Hell, Russians do it for fun.


28 posted on 08/21/2014 5:13:26 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: workerbee

Sorry about your loss. I have faith that science will one day rid us of this loathsome disease.


29 posted on 08/21/2014 5:16:28 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: EveningStar

Opinions are like a-holes, everybody’s got one.


30 posted on 08/21/2014 5:16:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BurningOak

Yes, thank you, I’m sorry for your loss also.

And you are right, awareness does count with these issues.

I have no idea if their expenditures are in or out of line with other charities. And I know some are not supporting them because of stem cell research, etc.

Generally I don’t drill down that far with these things, although perhaps I should.

But, I’m trying to be attuned to these “social media” things, because dear daughter says they are the way of the future. In terms of that, they’ve totally won this round.

Oh, and let me not leave this subject without repeating that I think it is just another disgrace on Obama that he turned down ETHEL KENNEDY’S ice bucket challenge. I hope at least that he gave the money, but with his defenders in the media still defending him (wobbly though their knees may be getting at this point) I have no idea.


31 posted on 08/21/2014 5:21:13 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: BushCountry

I’m not terribly concerned about their salaries. The reviews state they do a good job of getting money to where it is needed without eating it as administrative expense. That’s what more concerns me.


32 posted on 08/21/2014 5:27:54 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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