Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Airborne Transmission of Ebola
American Thinker ^ | August 24, 2014 | Ronald R. Cherry, MD

Posted on 08/24/2014 6:10:44 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

The public has been misinformed regarding human-to-human transmission of Ebola. Assurances that Ebola can be transmitted only through direct contact with bodily fluids need to be seriously scrutinized in the wake of the West Africa outbreak.

The Canadian Health Department states that airborne transmission of Ebola is strongly suspected and the CDC admits that Ebola can be transmitted in situations where there is no physical contact between people, i.e.: via direct airborne inhalation into the lungs or into the eyes, or via contact with airborne fomites which adhere to nearby surfaces. That helps explain why 81 doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers have died in West Africa to date. These courageous healthcare providers use careful CDC-level barrier precautions such as gowns, gloves, and head cover, but it appears they have inadequate respiratory and eye protection. Dr. Michael V. Callahan, an infectious disease specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital who has worked in Africa during Ebola outbreaks said that minimum CDC level precautions

“led to the infection of my nurses and physician co-workers who came in contact with body fluids.”

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: airbourneebola; ebola; ebolaoutbreak; transmission
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-106 next last

1 posted on 08/24/2014 6:10:44 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic
That helps explain why 81 doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers have died in West Africa to date.

This keeps getting worse every time I check. If it spreads to Lagos, watch out world.

2 posted on 08/24/2014 6:18:38 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

3 posted on 08/24/2014 6:20:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FatherofFive

If this were a Hollywood virus contagion movie, they power that be would simply bring in fuel-air bombs (or small nukes) and incinerate the source of infection and all those in the quarantine zone.


4 posted on 08/24/2014 6:22:48 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BuffaloJack

If this were a Hollywood virus contagion movie, the powers that be would simply bring in fuel-air bombs (or small nukes) and incinerate the source of infection and all those in the quarantine zone.


5 posted on 08/24/2014 6:23:29 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic
The Democrats are pumping in immigrants everywhere they possibly can in an attempt to get political control, disease be damned. Let's get tuberculosis, Ebola and maybe a revival of Smallpox going. Now, if you really want to wipe out the pesky opposition, just start an epidemic of Smallpox. Worked for the Spaniards. By the way, ALL Mexicans are vaccinated for Smallpox to this day.

Saw the limb off on which you are sitting seems to be their best strategy anyway. If you can't have total control, then make sure no one else does either. I mean, can't we all be Detroit?

6 posted on 08/24/2014 6:24:40 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic

Another crime by the wishful thinkers in D. C. They knew about the airborne transmission of Ebola since monkeys caught it through the ventilation system in a research center in VA years ago.


7 posted on 08/24/2014 6:25:09 AM PDT by txrefugee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic

I’m waiting for a jihadi to intentionally infect himself, then strap on a suicide vest and aerosolize himself in a crowded environment. To the world, it would look like a standard suicide bomb. But 3 or 4 weeks later, the survivors in the crowd will have symptoms. And over those 3 or 4 weeks, a much larger group will have been exposed.


8 posted on 08/24/2014 6:26:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic; Black Agnes

What? The CDC is wrong? I wonder what else they might be wrong about?


9 posted on 08/24/2014 6:27:27 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goodwithagun

I have some friends who are leaving next week on a photo “safari” in Kenya and Tanzania. Is that a good move? I worry for them. No one seems to want to talk about the ebola thing.


10 posted on 08/24/2014 6:30:10 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic

This is becoming more confusing, but mostly because of one word which is being used in two different ways.

“Airborne” has a specific, technical meaning when used to talk about preventing infections. It means a disease caused by tiny particles that are small enough to remain suspended in the air for hours and which remain infectious for most or all of that time. If Ebola was airborne, in that sense, we would know it already.

The common sense meaning of “airborne” is, you can get it through the air, by breathing or by contact. That is certainly true of Ebola, particularly when the source patient is splashing the walls with blood and diarrhea.


11 posted on 08/24/2014 6:30:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goodwithagun

If the government wanted to deliberately infect the general population with economic chaos, illegal drugs, violent criminals, disease and the potential for armed insurrection would they behave differently?


12 posted on 08/24/2014 6:35:16 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

Ping


13 posted on 08/24/2014 6:42:39 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

THE WALKING DEAD...now in a neighborhood nnear you!

Thanks Barry...and to all those idiots that voted him into office twice!


14 posted on 08/24/2014 6:45:20 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic; Chode

Oh no, Ebola is an airborne virus. I have known that for years.


15 posted on 08/24/2014 6:47:35 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim Noble

CCorrect. But it isn’t behaving like it should be


16 posted on 08/24/2014 6:50:43 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: redgolum
If Ebola were airborne (strict sense) every passenger on Patrick Sawyer's flight to Lagos would be dead or dying. This does not appear to be the case.

But I agree that we are seeing unusual things. The transcutaneous ID90 must be quite low.

17 posted on 08/24/2014 6:57:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Jim Noble

They discovered back in 1986 that had airborne tendencies

18 posted on 08/24/2014 7:08:30 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: FatherofFive

I wonder if the dopey Dr.s on Fox News will be spreading their misinformation again today on Fox News Sunday? The real fool Dr. Bernie Seigel (the New Yorker with the glasses) and the other guy (some foreign guy with his accent) keep downplaying the risk. I wonder how long they would wait before mentioning, oh by the way the ebola virus is now airbourne... run for your lives!!!!!!! I just want an admission of guilt, like Jerry from the dry cleaners that shrunk his shirt.


19 posted on 08/24/2014 7:09:17 AM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BuffaloJack

Don’t give Obama any ideas. He might want to do that with or without an Ebola outbreak.


20 posted on 08/24/2014 7:10:15 AM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: goodwithagun
> What? The CDC is wrong? I wonder what else they might be wrong about?

CDC admits direct physical contact not necessary "And casual contact we’re defining in here to be within three feet of a patient for a prolonged period of time."

21 posted on 08/24/2014 7:10:15 AM PDT by Boundless (Survive Obamacare by not needing it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

That’s what I don’t get, would Democrats like Pelosi and the ones in powererful positions really want to live in the slums with the outbreaks or do they delusionally think they will still live in their glass houses isolated from the crime and disease. They can’t be THAT stupid, or can they?


22 posted on 08/24/2014 7:12:21 AM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic; Cold Heat; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; ...
Time to restart yesterday's conversation, I guess...

Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

23 posted on 08/24/2014 7:12:50 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goodwithagun

If the ebola virus is verified to be airbourne, then the head of the CDC needs to be publicly drawn and quartered for lying to the American public for weeks and months now.


24 posted on 08/24/2014 7:13:52 AM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell
Post of the day:

If the government wanted to deliberately infect the general population with economic chaos, illegal drugs, violent criminals, disease and the potential for armed insurrection would they behave differently?

25 posted on 08/24/2014 7:15:13 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: hal ogen

I can’t imagine any sane person wanting to visit Africa right now with the ebola virus in full swing no matter what, unless they are suicidal and have a death wish.


26 posted on 08/24/2014 7:15:33 AM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Blue Highway
They can’t be THAT stupid, or can they?

They can. They are. Just listen to them for confirmation.

27 posted on 08/24/2014 7:17:26 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: null and void

but do they think that far ahead and wonder how they will be immune to the disease, since disease doesn’t give liberals a pass like the media does?


28 posted on 08/24/2014 7:19:08 AM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: hal ogen

Sounds crazy, to me. Why meet trouble half way?

Heck, I worry about friends leaving for Europe, soon.


29 posted on 08/24/2014 7:20:39 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Blue Highway

My experience with liberals is that they are utterly unable to foresee the consequences, no matter how glaringly obvious, of any action.


30 posted on 08/24/2014 7:21:22 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: All
This is Monrovia, Liberia's infamous slum know as West Point. It has been quarantined because of ebola. What are the odds of surviving an airborne infection in such a place?
31 posted on 08/24/2014 7:21:44 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell; null and void

If the government wanted to deliberately infect the general population with economic chaos, illegal drugs, violent criminals, disease and the potential for armed insurrection would they behave differently?


No.

I agree with Nully....post of the day.


32 posted on 08/24/2014 7:22:52 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: FatherofFive
It's already there in Lagos, has been for a while.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/2014/08/22/adaad392-2a18-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html

33 posted on 08/24/2014 7:25:16 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: hal ogen

Africa is a big place. Kenya is about 2000 miles from Nigeria.


34 posted on 08/24/2014 7:25:24 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic

If it truly was airborne, Obama would shut the borders. Does anyone think DC would let an airborne killer come in, knowing they and their families would be at risk?


35 posted on 08/24/2014 7:26:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter

And how do you hold back 70K angry people (West Point) if they decide to storm the barricades? This place will boil over. And soon...


36 posted on 08/24/2014 7:30:57 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Blue Highway

They have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars, they figure they can buy glass houses away from all the dying people.


37 posted on 08/24/2014 7:43:46 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter

I’m going to say 20%. Ebola has a 60-80% mortality rate, so I expect survival to be at least 20%.


38 posted on 08/24/2014 7:44:34 AM PDT by Bulwyf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic
Airborne Transmission of Ebola

There were a number of people, including many on this forum, who have been very quick to criticize those of us who pointed out the "sudden" change in narrative that perfectly fit the 0bama regime's importing of ebola into the US. Amost overnight that "strategy" went from isolating ebola in africa, because it was highly contagious, to throwing open the doors to bring it here. Along with is, the narrative went from "high contagious" to "can't be spread through the air".

Curiously, though, when the infected do-gooders were brought here, there was double bagging - infected in a spacesuit and medics in a spacesuit. Now, if ebola can only be spread through contact, why did they do this?

39 posted on 08/24/2014 8:04:30 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want a Speaker who'll stick that pen and phone where no one but Reggie Love can find it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: right-wing agnostic
The Canadian Health Department states that airborne transmission of Ebola is strongly suspected and the CDC admits that Ebola can be transmitted in situations where there is no physical contact between people, i.e.: via direct airborne inhalation into the lungs or into the eyes, or via contact with airborne fomites which adhere to nearby surfaces.

Well, it's logically true that projectile vomiting, inadvertent spittle, and things of that nature could land on surfaces and or attending medical personal, (which is why they wear masks and shields, or should be, but that transmission is not considered to be airborne and it does not travel very far.

The term "airborne" is being misused here (again) to give one the impression that distance is not a factor.

But it is..

The same claims were made regarding the Reston outbreak with monkeys and they could not prove it there either as the only evidence was some excited utterances and opinions of a staff member.

If someone wants to believe that you can catch Ebola from a patient by being in the same building or somewhere downwind, they certainly can. But that idea, along with many other "ideas" are just speculations with no basis in fact.

On the other hand, we do have a idea how these medical people are getting infected and there is even visual evidence for that, showing that they were/are reusing their protective equipment. (masks, gloves and gowns) This leads to speculation that they may not have it available all the time. Total body, eye and face protection is mandatory with this type of disease, as are protocols for the donning and doffing of them. If you want to speculate, I would speculate in that area and not on "airborne" transmission.

40 posted on 08/24/2014 8:10:27 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy

Yes, because there families ill not be at risk.


41 posted on 08/24/2014 8:22:04 AM PDT by Lady Heron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: The Sons of Liberty
Curiously, though, when the infected do-gooders were brought here, there was double bagging - infected in a spacesuit and medics in a spacesuit. Now, if ebola can only be spread through contact, why did they do this?

To show that they were taking every precaution, even though the degree of it was not necessary. It's what they do.

But like all other speculative thinking, their motives are now challenged by using the precautions as a double edged sword..

42 posted on 08/24/2014 8:22:17 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Lady Heron

Will


43 posted on 08/24/2014 8:22:39 AM PDT by Lady Heron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: null and void

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!


44 posted on 08/24/2014 8:22:49 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you take medicine, you have to recover twice; once from the disease and once from the medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Cold Heat

Please read the Doctor’s article in its entirety, if you haven’t. It is logical and well reasoned.


45 posted on 08/24/2014 8:24:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Monkey Face

You get what you say according to the Bible.

I, for one, am not participating for lack of interest....I am healthy and blessed, period.


46 posted on 08/24/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by Kackikat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Robe

I read that book. It was scary.


47 posted on 08/24/2014 8:25:01 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you take medicine, you have to recover twice; once from the disease and once from the medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: donozark

Yeah, but I doubt they can afford the airfare to get to the US..:-)


48 posted on 08/24/2014 8:25:23 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Kackikat

I can be a panic monger if I wish. I’m immune. I have too much common sense to be swayed by someone in an irrational panic.

None of us will leave this world alive, and that’s a fact. Another fact is that we all leave by different doors. Ebola is just another door.


49 posted on 08/24/2014 8:28:00 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you take medicine, you have to recover twice; once from the disease and once from the medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Monkey Face
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!

Yep. someday...that's the nature of life, no one gets out alive.

50 posted on 08/24/2014 8:31:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-106 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson