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The Big Bang Is Hard Science. It Is Also a Creation Story.
Nautilus ^ | September 4, 2014 | Barry B. Powell

Posted on 09/07/2014 2:08:27 PM PDT by EveningStar

In some ways, the history of science is the history of a philosophical resistance to mythical explanations of reality. In the ancient world, when we asked “Where did the world come from?” we were told creation myths. In the modern world, we are instead told a convincing scientific story: Big Bang theory, first proposed in 1927 by the Belgian Roman Catholic priest Georges Lemaître. It is based on observations that galaxies appear to be flying apart from one another, suggesting that the universe is expanding. We trace this movement back in space and time to nearly the original point of the explosion, the single original atom from which all the universe emerged 14 billion years ago.

While it is based on empirical measurement and quantitative reasoning, it is also a creation story, and therefore shares some of the traits of the stories that have come before. For one thing, it resonates with the ethos of the modern age—this is the era of big explosions, like those in White Sands and over Nagasaki. Also, like all creation stories, it explains in comprehensible language something which otherwise requires unobtainable categories of thought. After all, we cannot really know what the world was like before its creation. But we do see how things around us change, grow, are born, and die. And, like the ancients, we fashion these observations into the story of our creation.

(Excerpt) Read more at nautil.us ...


TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: bigbangtheory; creation; science; stringtheory
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1 posted on 09/07/2014 2:08:27 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Fiat Lux


2 posted on 09/07/2014 2:23:34 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: EveningStar

There is nothing empirical in the big bang, it is a fiction designed to make people believe something other than the Bible


3 posted on 09/07/2014 2:41:29 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon

What happened after “ let there be light “ ?
There was light indeed.
Big Bang in other words. That was one tremendous light.
And God separated the light from the darkness.
I.e. created energy and matter and vacuum.


4 posted on 09/07/2014 2:57:14 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: RaceBannon

Actually, the Big Bang Theory is just a restatement of Genesis 1:1. The only difference is that it doesn’t detail why the BB occurred or who caused it to happen.


5 posted on 09/07/2014 3:21:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Rabbi Nachmanides deduced the Big Bang from the Torah about 1200 years ago.


6 posted on 09/07/2014 3:53:06 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: EveningStar

YVWH said “Be light” not “let there be light”


7 posted on 09/07/2014 4:08:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: buwaya
Not quite. Genesis 1:2 establishes Earth's surface as the point of view from which to understand the following description. Darkness was over the deep not because light didn't yet exist, but because the impenetrable cloud layer prevented light from reaching Earth's surface (see Job 38:9). So, "let there be light" means let there be light now at the surface, because God caused the atmosphere to become translucent--though not yet transparent--and since the earth was revolving that light was now discernible from Earth's surface as day and night.

The Big Bang occurred ~13.7 billion years ago, whereas our Earth was created only 4.6 billion years ago. So, starlight predated earth by 9+ billion years, and our Sun's ignition as a light source predated Earth by a few million years.

For details, please visit Reasons.org.

8 posted on 09/07/2014 4:24:24 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: RaceBannon

Incorrect. Completely incorrect.

You should read about the ‘discoverer’ of the Big Bang.

Roman Catholic priest Georges Lemaître.

The hard left/anti bible crowd tried for decades to discredit the Big Bang. They came up with Steady State theory, and many other excuses.

But the more we investigate, the stronger the theory has become.

Now they try to co-opt the Big Bang.

The Big Bang theory is the story of our creation as documented by science.


9 posted on 09/07/2014 4:26:23 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

We all have our opinions on how to interpret the frankly poetical expressions of the Bible.
I see no reason to limit their meaning, or to impose a limited version of our understanding of them.
In any case, “day” “night” “the deep” and even “the earth” most certainly don’t exclusively refer to our specific planet or our specific diurnal cycle. Otherwise we would be commuting the greater sacrilege of denying the true vastness of his creation. We can look out there for ourselves, now with the understanding he has given us, and it has revealed wonders and miracles far past our understanding.
Gods word will apply to our distant descendants in a widespread galactic empire; it behooves us to have the humility and foresight to try to understand it the way they will.


10 posted on 09/07/2014 4:41:24 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: EveningStar

Science can establish the Big Bang beyond a reasonable doubt. What it cannot tell us is what banged and what caused it to bang, and against what.

Spirituality and religion can answer that question, but science can’t. The two support each other in many ways, but there is only so far science can go.

However, this vision from the medieval mystic Julian of Norwich may be unknowingly referencing the Big Bang:

“In this vision he showed me a little thing, the size of a hazelnut, and it was round as a ball. I looked at it with the eye of my understanding and thought “What may this be?” And it was generally answered thus: “It is all that is made.” I marvelled how it might last, for it seemed it might suddenly have sunk into nothing because of its littleness. And I was answered in my understanding: “It lasts and ever shall, because God loves it.”


12 posted on 09/07/2014 5:09:51 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Sorry, but The Bible is what is Correct

Read genesis 1-2

what is the order of Creation?

The Big Bang denies the order of Creation, denies when sin entered the world, denies the need for a savioour, because Jesus died for Adam’s sin, if there is no creation day 6 when men were created, there is no need for a saviour

whoever ‘created’ the big bang is an unbeliever and most likely died without Christ in their heart


13 posted on 09/07/2014 5:24:38 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Sherman Logan

that’s completely incorrect

the big bang theory denies the order of creation, denies the 6 literal days of creation, and puts long time periods into the theory, all un-provable and inaccurate

The Bible is what is correct


14 posted on 09/07/2014 5:25:49 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: buwaya

there was no big bang, especially to what you just said

The Earth was created before light, correct?

According to the big bang, nothing was created before the big bang

The Bible is correct


15 posted on 09/07/2014 5:26:47 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon

The six days of creation, Genesis 1:3 onward, do not discuss the creation of the universe. That’s covered in 1:1.

It is entirely consistent with the account to believe that God created the universe using a Big Bang, then after 13.8 billion years began preparing the earth for man’s habitation over the six days.

The first day opens with light appearing over the previously, verse 2, dark earth and sea.


16 posted on 09/07/2014 5:46:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: RaceBannon

This is what is wrong with a literal reading of the Bible, and worse, an unliterary literal reading. The Bible was written in the form of poetry, not in the form of an auto repair manual.
A day does not have to be a day, 24 hours, nor does it have to be anything other than a contextual frame useful to reach the people this bit of poetry was directed at, thousands of years ago. They understood “day”, they would not understand “an unthinkable amount of time, way beyond what our arithmetic can manage”. The Bible did not say what the “light” was, nor describe the nuclear physics of the sun, or define “light” as we understand it.
Etc. Ad infinitum.


17 posted on 09/07/2014 5:50:41 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: EveningStar

The big bang needed Someone to push the plunger.


18 posted on 09/07/2014 7:21:19 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: RaceBannon; buwaya; Sherman Logan; Pikachu_Dad; All
RaceBannon, why can't we have both science books and the Bible?


19 posted on 09/07/2014 7:57:01 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

because when Science disagrees with the Bible , it is wrong

God’s word is right, and proven right each time

sometimes, we dont know how to yet, but, in time, you will see


20 posted on 09/08/2014 2:56:25 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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