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Tall Tale [That's True] Rare warbirds to depart Edwards Ranch
AOPA.org [Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association] ^ | July 31, 2014 | Dave Hirschman

Posted on 10/29/2014 2:18:36 PM PDT by SZonian

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As time passes, it seems more and more "treasures" are beginning to surface [Re: 'vettes in NY warehouse]...
1 posted on 10/29/2014 2:18:36 PM PDT by SZonian
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I guess if his prices are too high the buyer could just wait a while and buy them at an estate sale.


2 posted on 10/29/2014 2:21:18 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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I love stuff like this! Those airplanes and parts are worth a small fortune!


3 posted on 10/29/2014 2:26:39 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Just got back from a ‘behind the scenes’ tour of the restoration hangar at the Air Force Museum in Dayton.
Fascinating. Amazing the lengths they are going through to restore the Memphis Belle.
Right down to cloth wrapped wiring, correct gauge of course.


4 posted on 10/29/2014 2:34:50 PM PDT by Vinnie
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I’m so glad to see him to this - especially on his terms ;’)

All too often guys hold onto their treasures just a wee bit too long and then invariably either they rot into worthess junk or someone else has to dispose of them (or both!).


5 posted on 10/29/2014 2:38:47 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Great well done story. He certainly has a high opinion on the ME 109's.

Thanks for posting.

6 posted on 10/29/2014 2:52:44 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Vinnie
When "The Battle of Britain" was being filmed, the movie studio was said to be the "5th largest air force" in the world..

The P-38 is, IMHO, gorgeous...

7 posted on 10/29/2014 3:10:29 PM PDT by ken5050 (When the GOP takes the Senate, it will tie Obama's hands for two years. How will he play golf?)
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To: Karl Spooner

I remember in his biography, Erich Hartman preferred the ME-109 to the better performing FW-190. After reading this, I wonder if the 190 really was the better performer.

I do know that late in the war the Germans had developed a really powerful engine for the BF-109. I think something like 2000 HP which should have been a real terror in such a small plane.


8 posted on 10/29/2014 3:13:17 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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snicker...there is always that...a bidding war to be sure.


9 posted on 10/29/2014 3:26:23 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Vinnie

When I was stationed at Dover AFB, I got to help a little on Shoo Shoo Baby...but at that time, she was in pretty bad shape...I understand she’s now at WPAFB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoo_Shoo_Baby_(aircraft)


10 posted on 10/29/2014 3:33:44 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: rockrr

Seen it way too often...a priceless collection lost.


11 posted on 10/29/2014 3:34:17 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: yarddog
I remember in his biography, Erich Hartman preferred the ME-109 to the better performing FW-190.

Gunther Rall felt the same way. Matter of trust I guess. I heard the 190 had some problems in a dive.

12 posted on 10/29/2014 3:56:03 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: SZonian

My pop is an AOPA member and I happened to visit him in July and had a chance to read this article. Seeing that thread regarding the Corvettes the other day totally reminded me of this.


13 posted on 10/29/2014 5:44:44 PM PDT by Rodamala
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It’s there, all pretty. Another B-17 being worked on, an earlier model, and faster, is one named SWOOSE.
The nose art is a goose with a long neck. Someone said it looked like a cross between a goose and a swan, a swoose. Lol
A long way to go to display that one.

If you ever want to go to the Museum, the Restoration tour is really fascinating. Have to sign up and reserve online. Max number each tour is 38. Tours are Friday at noon only.


14 posted on 10/30/2014 3:57:19 AM PDT by Vinnie
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With many hundreds of hours in both the P–51 and Bf 109/Buchon, for example, he says the German-designed aircraft is far and away the more nimble fighter. “It’s not even a close contest,” he says. “In the hands of a similarly trained and experienced pilot, the 109 wins hands-down.”

I wonder if his experience is limited to the Spanish 109 with the Rolls Royce engine. Switching from the Allison engine to the Rolls Royce certainly changed the capabilities of the P-51.

15 posted on 10/30/2014 4:15:32 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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Did anyone catch NOVA last night? A bunch of guys in New Zealand built WWI replica aircraft to learn about combat flying in those planes from 1914-1918.


16 posted on 10/30/2014 4:21:48 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swoose

Back in the early 70’s there was a gent in the St. Louis area who had a complete, crated F-6 Photo Mustang in his garage.

I remember seeing flyable P-51s in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch going for a measly $10,000, ah to have bought a few of those back then:-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


17 posted on 10/30/2014 4:27:46 AM PDT by alfa6 (Freedom is not free Free men are not equal Equal men are not free)
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I thought this was funny. A daughter named for a plane.

Actress Swoosie Kurtz (Colonel Kurtz's daughter) was named after The Swoose.

BTW, they have a Foxbat there and a very early drone I'd never heard of, Condor. Had a 193 ft. wingspan!!

18 posted on 10/30/2014 5:04:56 AM PDT by Vinnie
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They aren’t Bf 109s. They’re Bouchons ... post war Spanish made knockoffs fitted with Merlin engines.

Neat planes in/of themselves, but nowhere near as valuable as authentic Bf 109s are.

The PBY is an interesting bird. It was painted in special commemorative colors in the mid 1980s for the 75th Anniversary of US Naval Aviation and flown across the Atlantic to reenact the first transatlantic flight.


19 posted on 10/30/2014 5:13:59 AM PDT by tanknetter
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Condor

The Condor sounds rather interesting.

Now if they can find a set of wings for the Foxbat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-25#Survivors

Regarda

alfa6 ;>}


20 posted on 10/30/2014 5:40:50 AM PDT by alfa6 (Freedom is not free Free men are not equal Equal men are not free)
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