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MSNBC Host Rips Obama Over Recent Fox News Channel Jab
Western Journalism ^ | 5/14/2015 | B. Christopher Agee

Posted on 05/14/2015 8:34:49 AM PDT by Beave Meister

“Is he really the sole arbiter of what is right and just?”

Referencing Barack Obama’s remarks at a recent forum aimed at addressing poverty, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough took exception to the president’s public indictment of a rival cable news network.

Obama stated that Fox News Channel offers a “constant menu” of programming demonizing the poor as lazy “sponges” and “leeches.”

Scarborough eviscerated Obama not only for his comments, but for the forum in which he decided to make them.

“At a bipartisan summit, you decide to attack a cable news channel as the problem,” he said, “saying that [FNC President] Roger Ailes calls people leeches, and Roger Ailes’ network calls people leeches, sponges, and lazy. That, first of all, at a summit that’s supposed to bring both sides together on poverty, is stunning to me.”

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KEYWORDS: cable; democrats; donkeys; fcc; fnc; fox; foxnews; foxnewschannel; gop; joe; joescarborough; liberals; morningjoe; msnbc; obama; republicans; rogerailes; scarborough
Morning Joe finally grows a pair and goes after Obama's hypocrisy and sense of self righteousness.
1 posted on 05/14/2015 8:34:50 AM PDT by Beave Meister
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2 posted on 05/14/2015 8:37:41 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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lol. Obama is winning the war on poverty - but Americans don’t know it because of Fox News.

This stupid idiot is the President of the United States?

3 posted on 05/14/2015 8:41:54 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Beave Meister

Really seems to me that, despite the horror that Hillary Clinton presents as a presidential candidate—her numbers are pretty good even considering the evil and slime that she has involved herself in that is being made public—that Hillary is simply Obama II.

4 posted on 05/14/2015 8:47:23 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Beave Meister

Nice try but just because your last viewer left won’t help by denigrating your former hero 0 just to appear as if you are Conservative and to help your dismal poll numbers.

5 posted on 05/14/2015 8:48:08 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: Beave Meister

Sounds like Joe wants a job at Fox.

6 posted on 05/14/2015 8:54:40 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

you must have copied that from the back of my Chevy P.U.?

7 posted on 05/14/2015 8:55:07 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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I have taken to writing it American graffiti!

8 posted on 05/14/2015 9:05:32 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Beave Meister

An occasional glimmer of truth sneaks out of Joe, but not often enough.

9 posted on 05/14/2015 9:34:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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We know how the truth stings Obama it’s something he could never handle it’s the way of a life time as a huckster.

10 posted on 05/14/2015 9:41:45 AM PDT by Vaduz
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Quotations from America's Founders in defense of freedom of the press as a guard against tyranny:

In the days preceding and following the adoption of the United States Constitution (the document which structures and limits the powers of the Executive office and that of every other segment of the federal government), the circulation of ideas was accomplished in numerous ways. There were newspapers, pamphlets, speeches and other forms of oratory, broadsides and "committees of correspondence."

From the Massachusetts Historical Society web site come these paragraphs:

"Ignorance is slavery -
"By the early 1770s, Boston's patriot leaders have had many opportunities to rally townspeople against perceived injustices (usually acts of Parliament or other objectionable activities undertaken by the British government or soldiery). Men like Samuel Adams understand that an informed citizenry is the best weapon against unfavorable government policy. Political ignorance is simply another form of slavery. How do patriots impart political knowledge to such a vast audience? Ministers, newspaper publishers, and even the Massachusetts General Assembly work to educate the public, but in 1771, patriot leaders in Boston experiment with a new form of instruction. They initiate an annual town lecture, which will be held each year on 5 March, an important anniversary for Bostonians. Some colonial leaders are skeptical, and question whether the general public can be educated in the ways of politics through such popular means."

In the fall of 1772, Bostonians address the latest rumors from Parliament: judges of the Superior Court of Judicature will no longer be paid by the colony's General Court. Instead, judges will be paid directly from the royal treasury, using money collected by the American Board of Customs Commissioners. Fearing this new process will "pervert the judgment of men," Bostonians petition their selectmen to act. In the process of debating the matter, Samuel Adams proposes the creation of a corresponding society to gauge the sentiments of other Massachusetts towns. On 2 November 1772, a committee is born when the Boston selectmen vote to establish a twenty-one-member Committee of Correspondence.

The Committee's first assignment is to prepare a series of reports outlining colonists' rights and Parliament's infringements upon those rights. The reports are gathered into a single document that becomes known as the Boston Pamphlet. Copies of the pamphlet are distributed to every town in Massachusetts, and town leaders across the colony debate the wisdom of following in Boston's footsteps.

Many towns do eventually appoint their own committees of correspondence, a development that troubles governor Thomas Hutchinson. As advocates of the committee system boast that Bostonians (and their committee) will prove to be the "saviors of America," Hutchinson and his opponents take every opportunity to disparage the town's Committee of Correspondence.

More positive news arrives from the "patriotic province of Virginia" in the spring of 1773. The House of Burgesses proposes some enhancements to Boston's committee of correspondence idea. In response to Virginia's proposal, Massachusetts creates a colony-level committee of correspondence chaired by Samuel Adams. The rhetoric of freedom, rights, and liberty bandied about by politicians is soon adopted by other colonists struggling with issues of slavery. In one poignant broadside, four slaves petition the Massachusetts General Court, hoping that the "divine spirit of freedom" will extend to the thousands of men and women literally enslaved in the colonies.

By the summer of 1773, the committees of correspondence have yet another issue to debate and discuss. In May, Parliament passes the Tea Act, giving the East India Company a monopoly over the sale of tea in the colonies. Committees are quick to share their thoughts on this "impending evil," but will their vitriol be enough to stop the tea from coming?"

Why is it that now, in the Year 2015, we have a regime in place which fears the formation of groups of citizens who may call themselves "tea partiers," or any other such name who, like their forebears of the 18th and 19th Centuries, call for liberty and freedom from elected and appointed government officials and their oppressive rules, regulations and "taking" of their income?

The free circulation of ideas in America, with all the technology available today, has the potential for restoring the concepts of individual liberty which so-called "progressives" have censored from the nation's textbooks and public discourse. As in the founding period, with current technology and ability to circulate ideas, the time has come to follow John Adams advice and, "Let every sluice of knowledge be opened and set a-flowing." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." - JOHN ADAMS, A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right, from the frame of their nature, to knowledge, as their great Creator, who does nothing in vain, has given them understandings, and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean, of the characters and conduct of their rulers." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"Let the pulpit resound with the doctrines and sentiments of religious liberty. Let us hear the dangers of thralldom to our consciences from ignorance, extreme poverty, and dependence; in short, from civil and political slavery. Let us see delineated before us the true map of man. Let us hear the dignity of his nature, and the noble rank he holds among the works of God-that consenting to slavery is a sacrilegious breach of trust, as offensive in the sight of God as it is derogatory from our own honor or interest or happiness - and that God Almighty has promulgated from heaven liberty, peace, and goodwill to man!" - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"Set before us the conduct of our own British ancestors, who defended for us the inherent rights of mankind against foreign and domestic tyrants and usurpers, against arbitrary kings and cruel priests; in short against the gates of earth and hell." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"They (the Puritans) saw clearly that of all the nonsense and delusion which had ever passed through the mind of man, none had ever been more extravagant than the notions of absolutions, indelible characters, uninterrupted successions, and the rest of those fantastical ideas, derived from the canon law, which had thrown such a glare of mystery, sanctity, reverence, and right reverend eminence and holiness around the idea of a priest as no mortal could deserve, and as always must, from the constitution of human nature, be dangerous to society. For this reason they demolished the whole system of diocesan episcopacy, and, deriding, as all reasonable and impartial men must do, the ridiculous fancies of sanctified effluvia from Episcopal fingers, they established sacerdotal ordination on the foundation of the Bible and common sense." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"They even persuaded mankind to believe, faithfully and undoubtingly, that God Almighty had entrusted them with the keys of heaven, whose gates they might open and close at pleasure; with a power of dispensation over all the rules and obligations of morality; with authority to license all sorts of sins and crimes; with a power of deposing princes and absolving subjects from allegiance; with a power of procuring or withholding the rain of heaven and the beams of the sun; with the management of earthquakes, pestilence, and famine; nay, with the mysterious, awful, incomprehensible power of creating out of bread and wine the flesh and blood of God himself. All these opinions they were enabled to spread and rivet among the people by reducing their minds to a state of sordid ignorance and staring timidity, and by infusing into them a religious horror of letters and knowledge. Thus was human nature chained fast for ages in a cruel, shameful, and deplorable servitude to him and his subordinate tyrants, who, it was foretold, would exalt himself above all that was called God and that was worshipped." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

"But none of the means of information are more sacred, or have been cherished with more tenderness and care by the settlers of America, than the press. Care has been taken that the art of printing should be encouraged, and that it should be easy and cheap and safe for any person to communicate his thoughts to the public. And you, Messieurs printers, whatever the tyrants of the earth may say of your paper, have done important service to your country by your readiness and freedom in publishing the speculations of the curious. The stale, impudent insinuations of slander and sedition with which the gormandizers of power have endeavored to discredit your paper are so much the more to your honor; for the jaws of power are always opened to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765


"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." - Thomas Jefferson "It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. It behooves him, too, in his own case, to give no example of concession, betraying the common right of independent opinion . . . ." --Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1803.

"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

There is a truly principled argument to be made for the Founders' Constitution's protection of free speech and freedom of the press.

When one dimension of liberty is threatened, then all are at risk, and the blatant example of unconstitutional use of government power provided by this Administration's "battle" against those who criticize its policies deserves a more competent argument than is currently being provided by either Fox or other "conservative" organizations.

It's time for a long overdue history and civics lessons, especially for the young! Tell them about why Thomas Jefferson, who was criticized by the press of his day, was so outspoken on the idea of a free press! Bet they've never heard it in school.

Claim a larger battleground--a battle of ideas. Contrast those ideas with those of dictatorships and totalitarian governments which have oppressed their citizens and controlled the marketplace of ideas by restricting the press!

Stop playing in the Administration's playpen. Force it onto an unfamiliar battleground where the ideas of liberty are presented versus the ideas of tyranny. Contrast the 200-year history of America with that of every totalitatian regime, and future generations may be able to mark this point in our history as a turning point for reclaiming freedom.

"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it." --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.

"No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth. Our first object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth. The most effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions."(Underlining added for emphasis) --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804. ME 11:33

11 posted on 05/14/2015 9:44:09 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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12 posted on 05/14/2015 11:24:19 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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