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War in Space May Be Closer Than Ever
scientificamerican.com ^ | August 10, 2015 | Lee Billings |

Posted on 08/11/2015 10:34:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: CodeToad

That is only the final stage. Just prior to warhead separation, you have a fairly large spacecraft with glowing boosters to target.

And you’ll already be tracking it from the moment of ignition on the ground so there are several minutes to line up your shots.


21 posted on 08/11/2015 12:30:52 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Boost phase means being rather close to the launch source. Not so easy to do.


22 posted on 08/11/2015 12:38:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: varyouga

“The orbital phase makes ICBMs sitting ducks.”

Also there are decoys and countermeasures. LOTS of decoys and countermeasures. (prior life was space combat and those decoys and countermeasures)


23 posted on 08/11/2015 12:40:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Steely Tom

“SM3 has whacked a bunch of satellites in orbit. “

A bunch? I think one so far and it was in a pretty low orbit.


24 posted on 08/11/2015 12:41:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

I thought it had been done more than once, but I’m not sure. You may be right.


25 posted on 08/11/2015 12:46:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: varyouga

A laser type weapon would not be all that effective against satellites, you have to have a hell of a lot of power and the capability to keep it focused and aimed for a pretty long time.
Kinetic weapons would be much more efficient, something like a space grenade.


26 posted on 08/11/2015 2:36:25 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: doorgunner69
I often wonder what replaced the early ASAT weapons carried by F-15 and similar.

That ASAT missile was a test prototype and technology demonstrator, not a deployed system. A few years ago, US Navy shot down a malfunctioning satellite using a deployed SM-3 missile from a cruiser. I believe they made some minor software tweaks, to alter its range-gate.

27 posted on 08/11/2015 2:42:00 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: 5th MEB

Brilliant Peebles was the first of the kinetic space weapons programs as part of SDI.


28 posted on 08/11/2015 2:51:16 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: NorthMountain
Yeah, the shoot down took place neat here.

Problem is a ship is darn near a fixed base, have to wait for that satellite to be in the right spot.

I would expect some of the high value satellites to have some maneuvering capability to avoid overflying known ASAT assets if the balloon goes up..

29 posted on 08/11/2015 3:08:02 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: CodeToad
I think one so far and it was in a pretty low orbit.

Correct, a decaying orbit at that. Rationale for zapping it was toxic fuel on board, but everyone knows that was a convenience.

30 posted on 08/11/2015 3:15:33 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Covenantor

“Brilliant Peebles was the first of the kinetic space weapons programs as part of SDI.”

But never launched. I was very disappointed by that. It was a good program. Unfortunately, it was superseded by a different program.


31 posted on 08/11/2015 8:28:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

There was a fair amount published about Brilliant Pebbles in print media before the web. Lags in the flow of information were the state of affairs then. Guess I assumed the program went black as it developed and was implemented.

Damn but we spent so much time back then just track card indices, abstract compilations, ordering publications, and waiting for snail mail delivery. Yet we managed to produce some truly amazing things.


32 posted on 08/12/2015 3:40:57 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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