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I would like some guidance regarding the elimination of Common Core
self | September (already?) 7, 2015 | knarf

Posted on 09/07/2015 6:15:34 AM PDT by knarf

Like many school districts, mine accepted government funds promising to install common core.


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That all happened before I became a board member

In view of the latest USSC ruling that demolished the wall of separation between church and state ... now no longer a valid argument against Americanism being a major part of the public school day ...

The elimination of the offensive flag arguments because of the black fag murderer of two whites on national television ..

A few other smaller issues ...


I think the time has come where I might effectively assault the common core curriculum that has about a three year start on me ... to eliminate it and get back to Dick and Jane, phonetic reading, REAL arithmetic, TRUE American history .. etc. ...


I don't know (first, if it's possible) and second ... HOW do I go about DOing it ?

I do have a lot of community support but we are organized only by a Conservative ideology, not by any agenda or argument


Someone please advise

Thanx

1 posted on 09/07/2015 6:15:34 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

I have no kids but neighbors were tossing this about at a gathering yesterday and I too am curious as to how someone would opt.
One man said he just went to the school and said I don’t want my kid participating,.not sure how that worked out


2 posted on 09/07/2015 6:19:44 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: knarf

Good luck

I homeschool

I think many communities setting up charter schools private schools and co ops - check with your state

Some have online. Schools as alternative to classroom Ed
Even though some of them have common core can be circumvented by teaching
Pray for the kids on common core and obama lunches , they have hard lives ahead


3 posted on 09/07/2015 6:20:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: knarf

I’ve had discussions with people on this. Even though they are otherwise good parents they have just decided to go along.

Until the real horror of CC reveals its damage most parents will go along and then wake up. By then it will be too late.

Very few want to go up against the school board and the teachers for fear of them taking it out on their children.


4 posted on 09/07/2015 6:24:41 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: knarf

Meeting Common Core guidelines has meant that teachers use workbooks or online text books to teach kids what they need to know for the Common Core assessments/tests.
To eliminate common core, you have to replace the text books (mostly digital), workbooks and curriculum.
Fortunately, the solution would be going back to the old one.


5 posted on 09/07/2015 6:25:19 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: knarf

Study Common Core so that you know exactly what it is, its effects on students, negative consequences, where it originated from, how much money taxpayers are bilked for annually, etc...

Video footage of negatively effected teachers on YT would help

Setup a Facebook page with the videos. There is power in those bideos. Ask Planned Parenthood.

Educate the people. Let them know WHY there is Muslim tolerance conditioning exercises say if you unvover the fact that there are people that sit on boards associated with it that have strong Muslim Brotherhood connections.

In essence you’re going to have to do some of your own digging and then educate the people. To make your job a lot easier there are already many people who have done research on Commie Core. They can shortcut your digging considerably.


6 posted on 09/07/2015 6:26:09 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: knarf

I am not sure of what advice I can provide that would be relevant to your situation. My only recommendation would be to use your position to closely monitor the environment and to make sure that parents have an avenue to address their concerns and that you work to enable parents to first be notified and then allow them to opt out of offensive materials.


7 posted on 09/07/2015 6:27:03 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: silverleaf
I'll know more in a few weeks, but I'm told the charter school system in this area has been swamped

Anecdotally, a girl who was pulled this year for cyber got a text from one of her (freshman high school) friends saying no one was in her study clas .... my neighbor's daughter texted back, "You mean you don't KNOW anyone there?"

Was answered ... "NO ... NO ONE is in this class"


In case you don't know it, the public school system has some pretty good locks on giving out offical data ... I don't know how LEGAL it is, but they can refuse you untill the next board meeting .... only to be told you don't have a right to THAT kind of information ...

All BS imo, but it is what it is.

8 posted on 09/07/2015 6:27:42 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: jsanders2001
Thanx, jsanders2001

I have a working knowledge but not one I can argue effectively against a professional pro CC (I wanted to say pro pro, but figured people might respond with .. ???? )

9 posted on 09/07/2015 6:30:34 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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I am using k12 which is “ Aligned” with common core but when we run across any nonsense in his history and social studies courses, or Global warming” in his science cities, I teach my son to see through the nonsense by reading

I have to pay tuition but K12 and connections academy are 2 that are ‘ free” in some states as an alternative to classroom

Even the parochial schools are infested with islamophiles and global warmists

There us no substitute for adults getting involved in what is taught and how it is taught

Especially adults that have real world experience with the issues


10 posted on 09/07/2015 6:38:38 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: knarf

Organize the parents. Until you have angry but well-informed mobs demanding action and citing specific examples at every school board meeting, the resident smart-people, e.g. administrators, will have the upper hand.


11 posted on 09/07/2015 6:40:30 AM PDT by bigbob
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You need the administration, superintendent especially, to want to eliminate common core and the funding that goes with it. It has been my experience that school boards are really just there to rubber stamp what the administrators decide. The members who try to make a difference by going against the superintendent are shut out and marginalized. All information you receive is filtered through the superintendent. If he doesn’t want you to know or take action on something, it will never be on the agenda.

Good luck.


12 posted on 09/07/2015 6:43:03 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: knarf

Does this webstie help?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3333948/posts


13 posted on 09/07/2015 6:53:28 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: raybbr
Very few want to go up against the school board and the teachers for fear of them taking it out on their children.

You would think parents would remove their children from the care of people they believe would make reprisals. Why deliver your children to people you fear will be dishonorable?

I will never place a child of mine in public school. As it is, I am ashamed to say I pay taxes that go to public schools.

14 posted on 09/07/2015 7:00:05 AM PDT by Buttons12
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Why don’t parents create an educational co-op? They can pool their resources and hire an instructor to teach their kids completely outside of compulsory public education. It’s time parents completely disregard education in its current form.


15 posted on 09/07/2015 7:05:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bush [the 90s rock band] for POTUS 2016!!!)
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To: knarf

jsanders in post #6 has the best advice I’ve seen so far.

I’ll add a couple of points. Look up and understand the difference between Common Core standards, not all that bad from what little I know, and the methods used to teach it.

It’s not the standards that are the problem, but the methods in use. A dozen steps to do a simple addition of two numbers...especially focus on the Islamic indoctrination going on.

Look into school voucher systems where any individual can send their kids to a school of their choice and their voucher directs public funding to that school. This has been tried and found to work pretty well in a couple of places, and in Florida the teachers union shut it down by lawsuit a few years ago. They’re trying it again though. It’s being tried in other states too, with good results. Look it up.

(I’m not providing references, I want you to do the research yourself so you’ll learn from all the work you have to put into it, I’m not handing it to you on a silver platter by looking it up for you.)

The idea is to get some competition going. Nothing improves the performance of schools like having to compete to get funding. Liberals and teacher’s unions will fight it, look up reliable info to back you up. Print it out and learn it.

Educate the parents. Do a lot of research and find out the facts, relay those facts to parents and try to get them up off their lazy asses and help. Do some printing so you can hand them printed info that you can back up. Include references.

Good luck, it’s going to be an uphill struggle. Your biggest problem is probably going to be getting parents to grow a backbone and stand up for themselves. Start educating them, once they know the facts and start showing up at school board meetings ready to bring this to the table and keep it there, you may make some progress. Also tell them to be prepared for some backlash. Liberals will use disinformation, shaming and Political Correctness to try to shut them up. Again, have facts ready.

In other words, school yourself. Learn all you can about it, make sure you know the facts and have them ready at all times. In a heated debate you won’t have time to shuffle through 30 pages of printed info to dig up one statistic. Know your stuff before you walk in the door.


16 posted on 09/07/2015 7:08:13 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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To: knarf

Indiana has already replaced Common core with its own curriculum standards. As Karen Schroeder has observed in the previously cited articles, the school boards do have the legal right to adopt other curriculum standards besides Common Core and have begun to do so in some jurisdictions. See:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/indiana-approves-common-core-replacement-standards


17 posted on 09/07/2015 7:13:40 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: knarf

Public schools are dead to me. They have been for a long time. They are poison to our culture and should be avoided at all costs.

ALL of them.


18 posted on 09/07/2015 7:26:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: tbw2

When one reads the list of Common Core guidelines for each grade, one may form one opinion, for or against, etc. As a teacher, I don’t think the list of standards (per grade) looks unreasonable.

BUT!!!!!...when you see the actual convoluted materials (or lack thereof) and long-winded, batty, and unnecessary “strategies” created to instill those same guidelines, or to “prove” whether a child meets the standards, that’s where I feel the true insanity begins. Not to mention, the materials have lazy errors within them that many a 7 year old has found on his or her own. No extra points for that :-/

Then come the state tests...questions that are hidden from public to avoid discussion and parsing. As if that’s not enough, then there are the rubrics used to grade those tests. One year there may be a fairly reasonable test, but a draconian rubric. Another year, a very confusing test, but a generous rubric. Year to year, there can be any combination or degree of those factors, across all districts, each time with entirely different tests per grade and subject, and new students (mostly) in each grade.

Then, after the fact, even after grading, the state may decide to discard certain questions due to too many complaints (if enough people can remember what they were, and bother to contact officials). In the middle of tests, there are also extra questions that were never meant to count, but are being “field tested”. Nobody knows which questions those are.

Schools are NOT given detailed feedback on exactly which questions each student got wrong, or which wrong answers they chose. Just think about that.

Schools are compared to each other even if one has a full magnet program and the other is heavy on special education. It is the same test for all.

Standards for spelling and grammar are not even tested, at least not in lower grades. There are virtually no materials given or time allotted to teach parts of speech/grammar, etc. I have seen an administrator throw a suggested (by a teacher) workbook across a room, saying workbooks do not work, language must be absorbed through reading.

Agree? Disagree? In any case, that’s the climate.

I could go on, but I’ll stop now.

Thanks for listening.


19 posted on 09/07/2015 7:26:46 AM PDT by DaughterofEve (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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Having been taught in the early 1950’s ‘sight reading’ via “Dick and Jane” it is the opposite of phonetics. And INFERIOR to teaching phonetics.

Not sure about other common core, other than it was a good state level only idea that got stolen and perverted by the Federal government.


20 posted on 09/07/2015 7:34:45 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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