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How Thomas Jefferson Led America’s First “War On Terror” [Against Islam]
Freedom Outpost ^ | 5/5/2013 | Tim Brown

Posted on 09/12/2015 3:26:07 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Today, I hear a lot of cries for tolerance, especially of Islam. I'm told, "Stop the hating of Muslims." Many of the very people I hear this from like to point to the Constitution and to the Founding Fathers and especially to the First Amendment and declare that Islam should be tolerated in America. However, I wonder if they have paid attention to either the Constitution or the Founding Fathers on this matter. Specifically, I wonder if they have even considered the words and actions of the third President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, especially his sense of reading their own texts from the Qur'an and knowing just what his enemies thought. Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

First, keep in mind that Islam and terrorism have gone hand in hand since its inception at the beginning of the 7th century. In fact, it's founder Muhammad was a terrorist and used "religion" to band his merry men together to conquer, rape and pillage. For nearly fifteen centuries the world has faced the disease of Islam, but our nation faced it head on when Thomas Jefferson, serving as the ambassador to France, and John Adams, servicing as the ambassador to Britain, went to London to meet with Ambassador Abdrahaman, the Dey of Tripoli's ambassador to Britain. Of course they met with Abdrahaman to negotiate a peace treaty, but keep in mind that in Islam, the only peace is submission to Islam.

Islam requires jizya under Sharia law, you know that alleged "harmless law" they want to impose here in the West. Jizya is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria. The tax is and was to be levied on able-bodied adult males...

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TOPICS: Education; History; Military/Veterans; Reference
KEYWORDS: chrislam; history; islam; jizya; muslim; terror; thomasjefferson
Islam knows that they can never beat us militarily. So they have adopted a new strategy: Al Hijrah, or Islamic Immigration. September 12th marks the Anniversary of the Battle of Vienna. The freedoms won against the Islamic onslaught in 1683 can easily be lost. Anything valuable in life must be fought for (e.g. Truth, Freedom, Family, Faith, etc.) Islam, like an opportunistic virus, is entering the body-religio of America and Europe because we have abandoned our Christian faith. Under the guise of cultural understanding and sensitivity we have outlawed Christianity and begun teaching Islam to our children. This includes learning Islam's Five Pillars and recitation of the Shahada:

"I bear witness that there is no God worthy to be worshiped but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

Conversion to Islam only requires recitation of the Shahada. Our godless leaders, calling it Chrislam, say that Christianity and Islam are compatible and that Allah is the same as the God of the Bible. Among these are Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Pope Francis, Jeremiah Wright, President Obama, Tony Campolo, and others. Nothing could be further from the truth. Christianity and Islam are diametrically opposed on all important issues. The Islamic Moon God, Allah, is a singular entity while the Christian God is triune (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Muslims view Jesus Christ as only a prophet while Christianity says He is God, the second member of the triune Godhead. True Christianity declares Jesus to be God incarnate and born of a virgin, while Islam says that Allah is unknowable. For Christians, the deity of Christ is non-negotiable, for without His deity, Jesus’ death on the cross would not have been sufficient to be the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the entire world (1 John 2:2). Islam demands the death of unbelievers to atone for a Muslim's sins.

1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called , and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. 13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession; 14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

1 posted on 09/12/2015 3:26:07 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Undeclared, BTW.

2 posted on 09/12/2015 3:27:34 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Jizya? Not a penny. Not anything in tribute to satan, the moon god, or his lying, murdering pedophile pal.

3 posted on 09/12/2015 3:31:19 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Sasparilla

Exactly! When the so called “refugees” get to Europe, they fully expect their modern Jizya (welfare). They spend it frivolously and expect more because, as followers of Allah, they deserve it from us kafirs.

4 posted on 09/12/2015 3:37:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It is easier to fight Muslims when the HMFIC is not a Muslim.

5 posted on 09/12/2015 3:40:24 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Sting’s “Desert Rose” would make a good anthem for Europe’s invasion, although I am sure he wouldn’t think so.

6 posted on 09/12/2015 3:49:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
I agree. Sting's worship of Obama may be a sign of his secret desire for worldwide Sharia...

Sting says Obama sent from god...
7 posted on 09/12/2015 3:52:55 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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This was a problem long before Jefferson became president. In 1786, Jefferson and John Adams met with the Tripoli’s ambassador to Great Britain to demand to know by what right the Muslim states could attack another nation’s ships and enslave the sailors. The response is revealing.

Jefferson recorded the ambassador’s response, in which he said that Islam “was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Qur’an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
8 posted on 09/12/2015 3:54:51 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: gorush

“Desert Rose”..... A China set for a long time in this family....

9 posted on 09/12/2015 3:56:09 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It’s also worth knowing that when we fought them, and soundly beat them, near the shores of Tripoli, they pretend-surrended several times before we had the victory.

10 posted on 09/12/2015 4:00:09 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

*or pretend-surrendered

11 posted on 09/12/2015 4:01:32 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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While I do appreciate these articles you have been posting in general, this typical theological error pops up:

“The Islamic Moon God, Allah, is a singular entity while the Christian God is triune (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).”

In Judaism and Christianity, except for among heretics, it is plainly taught that there is one true God, that God is One. Islam does have this one thing in common with Judaism and Christianity. Other than that, the other points are exactly right. A correct understanding of the Trinity does not contradict the statement that there is one God or that God is one.

While Islam probably does have influences of the earlier moon-worshipping religion, Allah is not a moon God. Islam does not worship a moon god; they worship Satan while calling him God. (Allah is the Arabic word for God.) Muslims do not worship Allah, though they claim to.

12 posted on 09/12/2015 5:04:01 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: OldNewYork
Now for the real story, not the comic book one. The real story was that we did not soundly beat them. Jefferson cut a deal with Tripoli's ruler to end the conflict. Part of the deal was we abandoned our allies in the conflict, and left them to their fate. To his dying day, William Eaton despised Jefferson for negotiating a sellout of our allies to the Pasha. William Eaton led the force of US Marines (the shores of Tripoli), Greek mercenaries, and Arab tribesman lead by the Pasha's brother, from Alexandria Egypt across the Western Desert to capture the city of Derna. After his victory, Eaton was ordered by Jefferson's negotiator with the Pasha, Tobias Lear to evacuate from Derna, and leave the Arab tribesman fighting for us to be destroyed by the Pasha. You see Lear struck a deal to pay the ransom for the release of American hostages, and also agreed to abandon our allies in the conflict. Jefferson was a 19th Century Obama in regards to this war.
13 posted on 09/12/2015 5:50:07 PM PDT by gusty
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That’s all interesting, if we can get past your little bit of snark in calling what I wrote the comic book story, and I appreciate your obvious knowledge on the subject.

We soundly beat them in the sense that they no longer raided places like Iceland and Ireland for slaves, and formerly depopulated parts of Italy’s coast didn’t stay that way, due to there no longer being danger from the sea of townsfolk being kidnapped by Mohammedans while doing clearly obnoxious things like plowing fields, fishing, or sitting down to a nice pizza pie. Do you take exception to that?

Would you also dispute that their navy faked surrender several times in order to draw the American ship in close enough to attack?

14 posted on 09/12/2015 6:03:12 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

I do not dispute anything you say about the North Africans. My concern was the attempt to make Jefferson into some kind of early 19th Century hawk, when he was far from it. The 1805 war was far from a crushing victory for the US. However, you should look into the later 1815 war with Algiers, led by Madison. Now that was victory. It amazes me that Jefferson’s war is celebrated when it was far from victory, but Madison’s war is ignored, when it was. As for fake surrender, I can only remember one ship to ship encounter between the forces. That being the Philadelphia. It’s capture was blamed on incompetence on the part of the ship’s leadership, even then. The only ship to ship encounter was a defeat for the US in the 1805 war. Again, in Madison’s war, the US Navy swept the Med clear of the Algerine fleet, sinking many of their top ships. 1815 is a clear date for the end of the Barbary Pirates. A student of history can easily deduce why. It was the end of the Napoleonic Wars, and the beginning of the era of the Congress of Vienna. European navies were freed from fighting each other, a far greater threat to themselves than the North Africans. Remember, not more than 20 years later, France conquers Algeria, the most powerful of the Barbary Pirates.

My bug a boo is with over the top history. History is far more fascinating and even heroic at times when told as it truly was. For example, the backstabbing of Jefferson and Lear do not in anyway take away from the accomplishments of William Eaton, a true hero. This guy was Lawrence of Arabia a century before Lawrence. Imagine a New England Yankee, Continental Army vet, leading Arab tribesman across the Libyan desert to capture the port of Derna. This story deserves a movie.

15 posted on 09/13/2015 2:14:34 AM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty

I appreciate the history lesson. You seem expert on this subject. I think you are reading too much into my allusion to the shores of Tripoli as a part for a whole: the conflict with North African Mohammedans. I never praised Jefferson, let alone mentioned him, certainly I never attempted to make him into any kind of early 19th Century hawk.

I’ll have to find the link for the ship to ship encounter for you. Found it - here it is: The aftermath is interesting reading too.

16 posted on 09/13/2015 3:42:10 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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17 posted on 09/13/2015 7:19:23 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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18 posted on 09/13/2015 7:22:48 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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By Barbara J. Stock
Jun 8, 2006

About two years ago, I received a letter from an ex-Muslim and within was a very disturbing prediction of the end of the world as we in the West know it. He explained that he had left Islam when he realized what an evil and murderous belief it really is, but he offered little hope of stopping the massive force that Islam has become. He felt the average American was simply to naïve and gullible to withstand the Islamic onslaught ahead. Hamstrung by morals and the Western rules of war, he believes Islam will slowly tear America and Europe to pieces.

This ex-Muslim laid out the plans of Islam and how it would carry out its takeover of the world. He gave me the blueprint of the murderous Islamic political and war machine and how it would use America’s kind and generous nature against it.

I have recently revisited that letter and was shocked at how accurate and prophetic this man has been.

He carefully listed exactly how Islam will defeat the West and how the liberals will help Islam along the way.

“Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction.

We will fight the infidel to death.

Meanwhile American laws will protect us.

Democrats and leftist will support us.

UN (United Nations) will legitimize us.

CAIR will incubate us.

ACLU will empower us.

Western universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us

OPEC will finance us

Hollywood will love us.

Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”

It is frightening to see that his predictions are becoming a reality.

In the two years since I received this letter, Europe has been subjected to attacks, riots, embassy burnings, increased crime, and parades of Muslims on the nightly news carrying signs with messages such as: “England, your 9/11 is coming,” and “Islam will rule the world,” and “Behead those that slander Islam.”

The Council on American/Islamic Relations (CAIR) already has plans to replace our Constitution with the Quran and states it openly and clearly: The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.” CAIR Co-founder Omar Ahmad.

Because we are a country of laws, Islam is protected here. Democrats are fighting to hand over Iraq and Afghanistan to Islamics and even threaten to impeach one of the few men that has stood up to Islamic terrorism. All the leaders of Islam must do is to remain patient and the far left will hand them a victory in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Leftists support of Islam is demonstrated with the recent news that the far-left Internet news search engine—Google—now seems to be systematically hunting down any sites that post columns remotely unkind to Islam and labeling any criticism of Islam as “hate-speech.” When did the truth become “hate speech?”

CAIR monitors radio and televisions programs and quickly threatens lawsuits if anyone dares to speak badly of Islam. Avenues that expose the truth about Islam are being closed. But this is a free country, for now, and Google can censure whomever it chooses to censure. Google seems to have chosen not to censure the many Islamic hate sites that are found on Google.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) makes no secret of its ingrained hatred of Christianity. While it monitors American schools with a passion resulting from that hatred, this religion-has no-place-in-our-schools group remained silent when Islam was forced down the throats of California school children under the guise of “history.”

In Ohio, the ACLU gave the Ohio chapter of CAIR its Liberty Flame Award “for contributions to the advancement and protection of civil liberties.” CAIR is supported mostly by Saudi Arabia which practices Wahhabism, the most violent sect in Islam. Within the Saudi kingdom, women are second class citizens, Christians are imprisoned and tortured for daring to pray in their own homes, and no other belief other than Islam is allowed. In fact, to be a Saudi citizen, one must be Muslim.

CAIR and ACLU joined forces to sue the federal government for monitoring certain mosques and clerics believed to have preached violent behavior after 9/11. Did the Nazi groups in America have the protection of a group like the ACLU during World War II? It would be bordering on suicidal not to observe those who live on American soil who often preach and teach the overthrow and destruction of the American culture.

The revelation that Yale University had invited the former spokesman for the Taliban in Afghanistan, Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, to audit classes caused a bit of an unexpected uproar. A man with a fourth grade education and a history of supporting the crushing oppression that is Islam was being heralded by the Yale administration as progressive and modern. Many of the alumni didn’t see it that way. Harvard was unhappy that it had missed its opportunity to snap him up. The irony is that Yale has banned the military from its hallowed halls by claiming our military is anti-gay and sexist. Islamics, such as Hashemi, ordered women beaten for showing their hair and homosexuals were simply hung if caught. For some odd reason, Yale does not find offensive a man that supports this.

American mosques are everywhere. There are only approximately 6 million Muslims in America, a country of 300 million people. One has to wonder why the Saudis and other OPEC countries keep sending money to build more. Using our laws, the call to prayer now bellows out five times a day in many American cities starting at dawn. The Islamics claimed they had the same right as Christian churches whose bells ring a few times on Sunday morning. Entire neighborhoods are being taken over by Muslims as non-Muslims flee to quieter and safer areas, and so more mosques are built and the population expands. Within those mosques, anti-American sentiment is often preached. The worshipers are reminded that they are Muslim, and should be loyal only to Islam, not America.

This is also the message of CAIR’s Co-founder Omar Ahmad who stated: “Those [Muslims] who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ... Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant.” Islam’s plans are public for all to see, but many Americans still try to ignore it all, hoping it will just go away. Many Americans cling to the idea that Islam is peaceful because the alternative is too horrible too contemplate.

Hitler did not “go away” and neither will Islam. This is a fact that the West must realize very soon. Canada is now fending off Sharia law in some areas. In England, a London Telegraph poll showed that 40% of London’s Muslims wanted to discard British laws and be ruled by Sharia law. When Muslim voters outnumber the non-Muslim ones Sharia law will be enacted, just as predicted by the ex-Muslim who continued his warning:

“On the camera:

We will always say, ‘Islam is the religion of Peace.’

We will say: ‘Jihad is actually inner Jihad.’

Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible.

Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadists by their talk—by defending Islam.

Using [the] Western legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely.”

The Islamic plan is in motion for all to see just as this ex-Muslim has predicted. Is the West listening?

Complete text of: A Warning to America and the West from an ex-Muslim

Link to this article:

19 posted on 09/13/2015 10:45:25 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: patriot08

Incredibly prescient!

20 posted on 09/13/2015 12:50:06 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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