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Caught on Dashcam - Car Crash and Flip Off the Side of a Mountain - Angeles Crest Highway
justpaste.it ^ | january 4, 2016

Posted on 01/05/2016 5:58:33 PM PST by lowbridge

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21 posted on 01/05/2016 8:53:31 PM PST by Ken H
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I’m glad he admits to driving like a dumbass.

Too many people speed on Angeles Crest Highway and get in wrecks. Then they hire some sleazbag lawyer to sue the taxpayers, claiming the was responsible for their injuries.


22 posted on 01/05/2016 9:59:19 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: lowbridge

Witnessed a fatal version of this this last summer, a long 1/3 mile tumble down a Utah mountain. Paramedics took one look and packed up their gear.


23 posted on 01/05/2016 10:00:26 PM PST by lurk
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To: Irish Eyes

Over the speed limit and/or too fast for conditions (VC 22350)


24 posted on 01/05/2016 10:01:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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SoCal ping


25 posted on 01/05/2016 10:12:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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I'm glad he admits to driving like a dumbass.

Too many people speed on Angeles Crest Highway and get in wrecks. Then they hire some sleazbag lawyer to sue the taxpayers, claiming the was responsible for their injuries.

That being said, if someone was so impressed
At the exit, I could barely see because it was so bright, a person standing and holding something while motioning . . .

. . . The guy who was standing at the edge of the tunnel ran over and told me that he was trying to get me to slow down because he nearly lost it himself in the same spot.

with how dangerous that spot of road was that he was volunteering his time to warn others about it bears witness that something isn't right about that road.

Granted that he admits that he alone drove off that road, there is a reason why the number of accidents we suffer in this country is no worse than it is. That reason is that the rules of the road are made so that to cause a wreck it takes two people making a mistake.

Or one FUBAR. And it sounds like it is way too easy to FUBAR at that spot.


26 posted on 01/06/2016 11:07:48 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; mickie; Maine Mariner; pax_et_bonum
There may have been one minor sign somewhere seen in the video...but on the approach to the tunnel I saw no extra-large signs saying, "Dangerous Curve Ahead, Reduce Speed", or a "Reduce Speed to X MPH" or "Slowdown, Jackass" or anything of the sort.

Boys will be boys and some will ignore any warning signs just for driving-thrills in the mountains, but at least if they're dead and are in the Big Rest Stop in the sky they (and their estate) can't say they weren't warned.

Since this happened a year ago, I wonder if any "Danger" signs are posted in that area now.

Leni

27 posted on 01/06/2016 11:31:20 AM PST by MinuteGal ("We will take things away from you on behalf of the common good"...Karl Marx...oops, Hillary Clinton)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Too many people driving like idiots. That is what's wrong with Angeles Crest Highway.

It is a winding mountain road. Not an oval test track. And it should come as a surprise to no one that the sun is bright when you come out of the tunnel.

In other words, he was driving too fast for the conditions. Particularly visibility. That is what the basic speed law addresses.

California Vehicle Cede section 22350:

"No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property."

He was also likely driving in excess of the posted speed limit, which is prima facie reckless. Particularly on a winding mountain road.

And if the guy in front of him had a problem: chances are very strong that guy was driving recklessly as well.

All just my opinions, of course.

28 posted on 01/06/2016 11:56:36 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
it should come as a surprise to no one that the sun is bright when you come out of the tunnel.
Isn't that the truth!

And for that very reason it would save lives if, in daytime, the last quarter mile of every tunnel were illuminated with gradually increasing intensity.

All very well to cavil that "drivers should know" - but then, drivers should know not to cause traffic tie-ups by rubbernecking at accidents and even at scenic vistas. And a fat lot of money you will make betting that all drivers will remember and take due cognizance of the fact that daylight is dazzling when you have become acclimated to the low light levels typical of tunnels.


29 posted on 01/06/2016 4:13:54 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

You make a good point. There are a lot of bad drivers out there who simply don’t think about stuff as simple as how quickly their eyes will adjust to light.

And yes, every road could be made safer for the inattentive and overly aggressive drivers. But that doesn’t equate to the road being dangerous.


30 posted on 01/06/2016 4:17:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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