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Free Republic 2016 Caucus Open Discussion Thread LXXXVII
Free Republic ^ | 14 April 2016 | Windflier

Posted on 04/14/2016 9:06:09 PM PDT by Lonely Bull

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To: Kenny
Cruz isn't falling so much as he's bouncing along at his rock bottom. These are his hardcore supporters who will never give up, at least not as long as Ted hasn't given up.
21 posted on 04/14/2016 10:40:52 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

But he is getting a lot of delegates through the back channels. Manafort doesn’t seem worried but He manages to get all the delegates in these places.

Yet he rarely dominates any race and loses most.


22 posted on 04/14/2016 10:49:27 PM PDT by Kenny (e)
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To: altura
There aren't that many of you anyway; however, you DO tend to flood this site with crap threads and vanities.

There are far more Trump supporters and EX-Cruzers, who now support Trump, on this site, but they don't vote on the Caucus, so you don't know about them.

This thread is supposed be about the Caucus, so please don't attempt to start a flame war on this thread.

23 posted on 04/14/2016 10:54:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Kenny
With the present delegate math Ted Cruz's only chance rests on a pro-Cruz conspiracy theory. Contrary to all outward appearances there's an army of delegates secretly loyal to Cruz who will rally to him on the second ballot, handing him the nomination.

I find this theory implausible.

24 posted on 04/14/2016 10:55:37 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: Kenny

You’re correct on all points.


25 posted on 04/14/2016 10:56:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MaxFlint

It’s a funny theory, but sadly, one which the Cruz supporters here will cling to, to the bitter end.


26 posted on 04/14/2016 10:59:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: thoughtomator
Gotta admire the fortitude of Cruz fans

Sometimes stubbornness looks a lot like fortitude. Just saying.

27 posted on 04/14/2016 11:01:14 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("It's always good to be underestimated." ~Donald Trump)
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To: Kenny
Post #20

I think you pretty well nailed it. There is always a danger in reading your own press. Coming off the Wisconsin win, with two weeks to fortify, Cruz started believing that what was done in back rooms was the actual sentiment of the nation. He totally misread this.

If someone in the Cruz camp would have been monitoring the Free Republic 2016 Caucus, they could have told him nothing changed after Wisconsin. But, too late now.

28 posted on 04/14/2016 11:07:34 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("It's always good to be underestimated." ~Donald Trump)
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To: nopardons; MaxFlint
I have tried (in vain) to explain the math objectively to a fair amount of Cruz supporters lately.

It's like talking to the old Barbie dolls........

Their retort always seems to be (In my best Barbie voice) Math is hard.......

29 posted on 04/14/2016 11:11:25 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: Lakeshark
Yes, I know. :-(

I too have attempted to teach them, state by state, why no matter WHAT Cruz does now, it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to win and/or stop Trump. They refuse to even peek at reality.

Psssssssssssssssssssst...I think they all use COMMIE CORE MATH, where the outcome doesn't matter at all, it's the method that counts. LOL

30 posted on 04/14/2016 11:25:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Commie Core Math:

If Cruz looks like he will get stuck around 600 or so delegates, how many delegates do they have to get pledged to them on the second ballot by the GOPe for him to win, and will he then actually get them? (see Lucy; football)

Corollary question: How fast before his campaign stops asking for emergency money with three daily bursts of emails?

Corollary, corollary question: How many weeks, months, or years will it take them to do the math? Finally, since we are using commie core math: How fast were they driving when they finally got it?

31 posted on 04/14/2016 11:38:25 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: Lakeshark
Answer to the last query first....The Cruzites were at a stand still, not traveling at all and they shall NEVER be able to do the math. Instead, they shall just lie and rail against Trump.

Answer to the second question.....NEVER ! The Cruz campaign and the couple, shall continue to beg for money until they take their last breaths.

Answer to the first question.....LOL

32 posted on 04/15/2016 12:01:48 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lakeshark
Answer to the last query first....The Cruzites were at a stand still, not traveling at all and they shall NEVER be able to do the math. Instead, they shall just lie and rail against Trump.

Answer to the second question.....NEVER ! The Cruz campaign and the couple, shall continue to beg for money until they take their last breaths.

Answer to the first question.....LOL

33 posted on 04/15/2016 12:01:51 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Most excellent, game me a fine chuckle!

Your CCM skills are off the charts good sir.

So: Trump and Cruz are riding in cars starting at opposite ends of a two mile tunnel filled with delegates. Trump is going 50 mph. Cruz 27 mph.

How far do they each travel before Cruz gets to 1237 on the second ballot?

34 posted on 04/15/2016 12:18:55 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: nopardons
game=gave

Sheesh....

35 posted on 04/15/2016 12:19:54 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: Lakeshark
LOL....your new query is too funny, but I shall do my best to answer it. But before I do, I must admit that I have studied stinking COMMIE CORE for years now; since it first came to be. I an a warrior against it and have done everything I can to help get rid of it and educated everyone I know about it; inundating them with articles and actual tests.

The correct answer to this query is that they travel NO miles, because Trump gets at least 1237 delegates ( probably more ), prior to the convention, so he is proclaimed the nominee after the FIRST ballot. :-)

36 posted on 04/15/2016 12:24:53 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lakeshark

No problem, I’m an expert at ready typos and phone changed words.


37 posted on 04/15/2016 12:25:50 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lonely Bull

Vote Trump!

That said, the Trump-Cruz wars are not helping us to elect the best possible conservative in November. I want 99% or more of Cruz supporters to vote Trump, when he is nominated, even if they hold their noses. In the event that Cruz wins the nomination, I want 99% or more of Trump supporters to vote Cruz, even if they hold their noses. Offending the other side does not encourage them to vote Trump (or Cruz) in November.

I cannot help wondering how many of those who stir up the Trump-Cruz wars are actually paid trolls taking Jeb/Hillary/Soros money to cause trouble - not all of them but probably enough to set the toxic tone.

I stand by my recurring statement:

Cruz and Trump are both imperfect but they agree far more than 80% of the time (see my tagline from Ronald Reagan). They should be friends and allies, and we should treat both of them as such.


38 posted on 04/15/2016 2:10:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lonely Bull

On a purely personal note, I’m getting the feeling that Washington insiders dread having either Trump or Cruz as the next president, and they’re gonna try to pass the nomination to Kasich.

Insights?

Comments?


39 posted on 04/15/2016 3:06:40 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: nopardons
It’s a funny theory, but sadly, one which the Cruz supporters here will cling to, to the bitter end.

It has the advantage of being unfalsifiable. There's no proof because it's a secret plan. No one will suspect until it's too late!

40 posted on 04/15/2016 8:54:48 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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