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'I'm Smarter Than They Are': Underground Chemist Says Police Losing Fentanyl Battle
CBC ^ | Nov 26, 2016 | Jon Hernandez

Posted on 11/27/2016 3:02:36 PM PST by nickcarraway

In new documentary, B.C. drug producer known as Beeker says fentanyl is just the beginning

A B.C. drug producer known as Beeker says underground chemists are steps ahead of the police when it comes to the movement of illicit drugs on the streets.

Beeker is the subject of a new documentary, Unstoppable: The Fentanyl Epidemic, in which he opens up about the big business behind the drug.

He says police are far behind when it comes to tracking drugs throughout the province, and he says many local chemists are synthesizing drugs with materials ordered from China.

"I'm smarter than they are ... all of us chemists are smarter than the police, and we're gonna stay ahead of them," he coldly tells filmmaker Robert Osborne. "And if they find out one of the ones we are making, we'll make a different one — and this will go on forever."

Recent news does seem to prove him right: even deadlier opioids have already hit the streets in Vancouver. Carfentanil has turned up in several instances, according to Vancouver police — and it's 100 times more potent than fentanyl.

Deadly carfentanil worries health officials

"Fentanyl is soon to be obsolete. It's just not going to be out there because there's much more profitable drugs — it doesn't matter about better or safer — much more profitable drugs and molecules are on the way," Beeker says in the film.

"They're in the mail right now."

Beeker Beeker is known to police and has been arrested for producing drugs. He is the subject of a new documentary titled Unstoppable: The Fentanyl Epidemic. (Robert Osborne/Unstoppable: The Fentanyl Epidemic)

Trying to stay ahead

Beeker's ominous words echo throughout the upcoming film, which will air Dec. 1 on CBC Television.

Another person featured is RCMP Cpl. Eric Boechler of B.C.'s Clandestine Lab Enforcement and Response Team. Boechler has had several run-ins with the notorious drug producer, and admits that his words are frustrating.

"I know Beeker — I've been involved in an operation where he's been arrested," he told host Gloria Macarenko on CBC's BC Almanac.

"He's someone we definitely keep tabs on because we do know that, likely, he's going to get back into it." In his role with the enforcement and response team, Boechler is at the forefront of B.C.'s opioid epidemic, which has claimed more than 600 lives. He says it's an uphill battle as different compounds hit the streets.

"Unfortunately, it's bigger or worse every month. We're being deployed more and more than we ever have before to incidents across the province. We are seeing stronger, more potent analogs beyond what just fentanyl is ... more potent and dangerous compounds [are] coming out all the time."

Boechler says the RCMP is working to the best of its abilities.

"There's always emerging trends coming out. We are playing catch-up all the time, we're trying to get in front of whatever new compound may be coming out. Get it regulated as soon as we can, and prevent it from being put out on the street."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Local News
KEYWORDS: bigpharma; carfentanil; china; designerdrugs; dopersrights; drugs; drugwar; fentanyl; opioids; wod
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1 posted on 11/27/2016 3:02:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Boechler v. Beeker


2 posted on 11/27/2016 3:04:53 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: nickcarraway

They need to fix that guy in some way that he can’t do that any more.


3 posted on 11/27/2016 3:18:59 PM PST by OKSooner (Geno's is a tourist trap.)
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To: nickcarraway

Death Penalty for these murderers. Inject them with the poison they market.


4 posted on 11/27/2016 3:19:05 PM PST by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

The Phillipine solution.


5 posted on 11/27/2016 3:19:29 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: nickcarraway

Yep, all these smarty smarts ordering chemistry equipment and drug precursor chemicals from suppliers and sending them (apparently from overseas where they are subject to inspections by customs) to non-lab facility street addresses. The plan is foolproof, no way the authorities will find a crack in that armor /sarc


6 posted on 11/27/2016 3:23:04 PM PST by jz638
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To: Shady
Death Penalty for these murderers. Inject them with the poison they market.

This would be too kind.

7 posted on 11/27/2016 3:29:58 PM PST by NautiNurse (Confucius says: "Never measure curtains before the votes are counted.")
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To: jz638

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Crooks are the smartest people on Earth (just ask them).
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8 posted on 11/27/2016 3:30:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: nickcarraway

“And if they find out one of the ones we are making, we’ll make a different one — and this will go on forever.”

Well, IMHO he DOES have a point. There will ALWAYS be addicts, whether it’s people addicted to hoarding, or buying from The Shopping Network or, in my case, an ex-huz addicted to ‘legal’ oxy-codone that nearly took us out, financially.

I also agree that punishment for these POSs, AS WELL AS FOR ‘doctors’ that prescribe opiates in the first place, needs to be severe.

But Pot’s now legal in a few states, so we’re gaining ground in, ‘The War on Drugs.’

Not. It’s a RACKET. Nobody really CARES who the collateral damage is (um..ME!) as long as money is being made.

*SPIT*


9 posted on 11/27/2016 3:31:06 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: nickcarraway

Ready for the wall along the northern border yet?


10 posted on 11/27/2016 3:32:37 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: Shady
Inject them with the poison they market.

No,those drugs cause you to die in your sleep.A round or two to the forehead is best.

11 posted on 11/27/2016 3:32:43 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Glad2bnuts
The Phillipine solution.

My thoughts exactly.

12 posted on 11/27/2016 3:33:57 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: nickcarraway

People must be dying to get their hands on these new drugs.


13 posted on 11/27/2016 3:36:25 PM PST by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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To: nickcarraway
This is absolutely 100% predictable and completely the result of prohibition. Heroin was invented in Hong Kong shortly after the British made opium illegal and morphine restricted. You couldn't buy 100 proof whiskey in this country until they made whiskey illegal. Marijuana is now more than twenty times more powerful than the stuff we had when I was in High school back in the 70's.

There is a economist at Mises.org who has studied the potency phenomenon. Here's an interview: The Potency of Marijuana

14 posted on 11/27/2016 3:37:16 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: nickcarraway

How about decriminalizing marijuana and morphine or heroin? Possibly even cocaine?

Most drug users would stick with the known, standardized, and relatively safe. Why fool around with fentanyl or crocodile when you can get heroin?

Legalization would make more addicts but there’s a good chance it would cause less harm overall.

If drug laws were made at the state rather than the federal level, we’d have fifty different places to experiment to see what was the best policy in practice.


15 posted on 11/27/2016 3:39:26 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: nickcarraway

There’s been upwards of 10,000 heroin addicts on the Vancouver Eastside since the 1950s. In every decade since, authorities have vowed to crack down.

With the new opioids, the turnover is just getting faster of this increasingly deceasing population.


16 posted on 11/27/2016 3:40:03 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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“apparently from overseas where they are subject to inspections by customs”

I interviewed a smuggler several years ago. He showed me grave goods weighing hundreds of pounds. I asked how he got them here. He said, (approximately) “When you land in Belize there are billboards advertising smuggling services. It’s big business like UPS. (It’s not UPS, just similar.) They have lists of stuff leaving the country and lots of businesses are apparently in on it with them. So, they falsify the markings indicating these are copies. They put them in huge shipping containers with similar goods, pottery, stone, etc. Or they stamp them as appropriate for export. The paperwork and stamps look like the genuine article. Usually, they put it towards the back of a container. (The type of container you see on the decks of container ships.) The containers are x-rayed but all the paperwork is apparently good. The first time I shipped something I paid $10,000 cash for I was nervous. But it showed up at my house ten days later. (Via UPS, by-the-way.)”

I went looking for the tonnage of imported goods to get some idea of how difficult it might be to find somebody’s order of chemistry stuff. I couldn’t find tonnage as it would be a poor measure. But the dollar figure is about $2.3 Trillion. Looking for somebody’s $500 order, assuming it was shipped from, say, “The People’s Doll Factory” rather than “The People’s Fentanyl Supply Co.” would make it hard to spot. You would almost have to identify the dealer/chemist first and then watch his mail and UPS deliveries.

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-imports-and-exports-components-and-statistics-3306270

Perhaps the way to stop this is to use a social media business model and get ordinary people involved in watching suspects. I imagine the elderly could sit in front of a monitor and watch an internet camera set up on a power pole and file regular reports to the police. (Just typing out loud.) But, obviously, what we are doing now, and have done for probably 50 years isn’t working.


17 posted on 11/27/2016 3:49:24 PM PST by Gen.Blather (`)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Kill them. On the premise that they are committing murder and destruction of civil society. The problem is a society’s unwillingness to execute justice.


18 posted on 11/27/2016 3:49:27 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wait till he runs into Heisenberg.


19 posted on 11/27/2016 4:01:04 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: nickcarraway

An evil man making money off of people’s weaknesses

Beeper and others are not smarter they are just more evil and unethical


20 posted on 11/27/2016 4:07:13 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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