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The Italian highlanders who may have Scottish roots
BBC ^ | 11 Aug 2017 | Dany Mitzman

Posted on 08/11/2017 8:54:38 AM PDT by Theoria

Thousands of Italians emigrated to Scotland in the 20th Century, but it seems that 400 years earlier a group of Scots may have settled in a village in the Italian Alps. So local legend has it… And there are plenty of signs to suggest that maybe, just maybe, it's true.

High up in the mountains of northern Italy, just a few kilometres from the Swiss border, the people of the tiny village of Gurro speak a strange dialect, incomprehensible even to the other villages in the same valley.

They have peculiar surnames, and the women's traditional costume features a patterned underskirt that looks suspiciously like tartan.

One possible explanation is that their forefathers include a unit of Scottish soldiers - the Garde Ecossaise - who served the French King, Francis I, and were defeated with him at the Battle of Pavia, near Milan, in February 1525.

The story goes that while trying to make their way home the Scots stopped in Gurro, where they got snowed in for the winter. Many locals believe they never left.

"I've heard talk about this story since I was a child," says Alma Dresti, who was born and bred in Gurro.

"I know it's probably at least part legend but I like to believe in it and I do think there could be some truth in it.

"I like to imagine those strapping young soldiers trying to return home, stopping here, and liking it so much they stayed even once spring had come."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: History; Travel
KEYWORDS: almadresti; gardeecossaise; godsgravesglyphs; gurro; helixmakemineadouble; history; italy; legend; scotland; scotlandyet
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1 posted on 08/11/2017 8:54:38 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Et Verro?


2 posted on 08/11/2017 8:59:13 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Theoria

Simple DNA test could alleviate all doubt.................


3 posted on 08/11/2017 9:01:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Theoria
speak a strange dialect, incomprehensible even to the other villages
I was meeting my wife for dinner and arrived before her so I went to the bar where I ran into a bunch of Scots I knew in the oil and gas game. So I am standing there talking with them when my wife shows up. When we got the table my wife asks, "what language were those guys they speaking?" When I said English she looked at me like a cow looking at a new gate.
4 posted on 08/11/2017 9:04:13 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: dblshot

Funny. I’ve had Singaporeans translate Australian for me. Not fun.


5 posted on 08/11/2017 9:09:32 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

Maybe they are time travelers a la Outlander


6 posted on 08/11/2017 9:14:34 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Theoria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GowMI4wvmU4

Let Italy boast of her gay gilded waters
Her vines and her bowers and her soft sunny skies
Her sons drinking love from the eyes of her daughters
Where freedom expires amid softness and sighs

Scotland’s blue mountains wild where hoary cliffs are piled
Towering in grandeur are dearer tae me
Land of the misty cloud land of the tempest loud
Land of the brave and proud land of the free

Enthroned on the peak of her own highland mountains
The spirit of Scotia reigns fearless and free
Her green tartan waving o’er blue rock and fountain
And proudly she sings looking over the sea

Read more: John Mcdermott - Scotland The Brave Lyrics | MetroLyrics


7 posted on 08/11/2017 9:16:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: dblshot
"When I said English she looked at me like a cow looking at a new gate. "

Spent my early youth on a dairy farm....never heard that one.

8 posted on 08/11/2017 9:20:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: Theoria

There was a soldier
A Scottish soldier
Who wandered far away
And soldiered far away

There was none bolder
With good broad shoulder
He’s fought in many a fray
And fought and won

He’s seen the glory
He told the story
Of battles glorious
And deeds victorious

But now he’s sighing
His heart is crying
To leave those
Green hills of Tyrol


9 posted on 08/11/2017 9:30:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Theoria
I've got an Argentine friend who emigrated from Scotland as a boy. The only way I can understand his “english” is get a few drinks down me.
10 posted on 08/11/2017 9:35:01 AM PDT by llevrok (A group of baboons is called a "congress." Just sayin' .....)
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To: Red Badger

I’m surprised there would be much doubt. That’s certainly within a historical time frame, and, as I understand the story, a few of their relatives from Scotland also immigrated there over the years.


11 posted on 08/11/2017 9:40:58 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: blam

Probably range cattle.


12 posted on 08/11/2017 9:44:44 AM PDT by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


13 posted on 08/11/2017 9:45:44 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: jjotto

A cunning linguist could study their language and decide......................


14 posted on 08/11/2017 9:46:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: llevrok
"I've got an Argentine friend who emigrated from Scotland as a boy. The only way I can understand his “english” is get a few drinks down me. "

I've read that the English as spoken in the Southern USA today is more kin to the English spoken in England in the 1700's than the English spoken in England today.

15 posted on 08/11/2017 9:57:16 AM PDT by blam
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To: Red Badger
Simple DNA test could alleviate all doubt.................

I was thinking that, too, all the way through the article. Perhaps they're afraid it will destroy their legend if it's disproved. But based on evidence presented, it seems highly possible.

16 posted on 08/11/2017 10:12:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: llevrok

Knew a couple from South Africa some years back.
They could be understood if they spoke slowly...


17 posted on 08/11/2017 10:14:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Theoria
Aye...


18 posted on 08/11/2017 10:18:52 AM PDT by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: bar sinĀ·isĀ·ter

Aha ! The”Find the Pope in the Pizza” contest guy.

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19 posted on 08/11/2017 10:20:45 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Theoria

Well, the French are just hillbilly Italians.


20 posted on 08/11/2017 10:27:12 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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