Posted on 10/25/2017 9:40:22 AM PDT by fwdude
The hypocrites never seem to surprise me with their depth of two-facedness.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029748635
give us the crypt notes- i won’t patronize those POS with a click...
Please provide, if you will, a synopsis.
From what I’ve heard, without clicking on your link, you have Texans who have wanted to secede for some time - (they actually were their own Republic before joining the union and some might say they actually have a case - not that I support that in present circumstances) and now you have California liberals wanting to secede.
Are there others?
The whining DU crybabies want to cut the South off from the rest of the USA. Why? Because the South is filled with racist Trump rednecks. (How’s that for profiling?)
Anyway, the DU folks just can’t come up with a decent new border, seeing as how - except for western California and some large cities - the entire USA is Trump country.
Basically, a leftard wants to let “rightwingers ... have the entire South,” thinking that we’ll effectively exterminate ourselves with “global warming” in a few years.
He/she/sh*t also characterizes us derogatorily as “fundamentalists” (ironically, they are the most solid fundamentalists in their own ideology without admitting it) who want our own “small government” (another derogatory slight.) It seems that government is their god.
I personally won’t click on DU unless it’s to read them having a nervous breakdown about this or that. The only leftist site I’ll sometimes click on is HuffPo, and not on their political stuff, they do have good articles on food.
Split the country in two and be done with it
Rightwingers can have the entire South. In a few decades it’ll be barely livable due to global warming, but since they don’t believe in it, we can easily convince them to move. Unfortunately they won’t be able to easily migrate north later because of the wall they would likely end up building to protect their sacred society from liberals.
They can stew in their own shit — i.e. the fundamentalist, “small government” utopia they’ve always dreamed of.
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Reply Split the country in two and be done with it (Original post)
LineReply Agreed. I believe this country should be broken up into as many as
LineLineReply Russia is winning
LineLineLineReply what “they” want? Sounds to me like some here want it.
LineLineLineReply Exactly. Russia is just one part of what used to be the Soviet Union...
LineLineLineReply Yes, they are winning
LineLineLineNew Reply The GOP has been dividing us for decades. It is what they want.
LineLineReply Easy to say if you live in the North.
LineLineLineNew Reply Think that will soften them up to vote for a more progressive positive
LineLineReply I’ve been hearing this from right wingers for years
LineLineLineNew Reply This country is too large to manage. Government is in total gridlock
LineReply So dissolve the Union and let self-deportation handle the problem?
LineLineReply THAT is what Putin wants!
LineReply This is what the Russians want, screw them and their overtly obvious trolls
LineReply Sounds good to me! I’ve been living down south now for almost 2 years and as far as I’m concerned
LineLineReply roads northward are open . . . I, for one, would appreciate a few moving out of my state
LineLineLineReply My husband has a contract that is up in a couple of months and we will be going back up north.
LineLineLineLineReply Well, don’t come up here to Wisconsin, it’s run by the rightest of the right.
LineLineLineLineLineReply Ha, I grew up in Paul Ryan’s district! We are thinking at the very least
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply What southern state do you live in?
LineLineLineLineReply I have hear similar things in Ohio. It is a mindset. I was fixing my
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Don’t know what part of the south you’re in
LineLineLineLineNew Reply I live in the Atlanta suburbs.
LineLineLineReply +1,000,000 to that.
LineLineReply Can we be called “South Canada”?
LineReply Unrec.
LineReply ahhh - more bigotry/prejudice directed toward southern states
LineLineReply My prejudice toward the south is fully justified, thank you
LineLineLineReply I am a southerner, the south is a mixed bag.
LineReply With the right wing and their belief in not having a government...
LineReply Imagine being the surveyor that gets the job of laying out THAT border:
LineLineReply There’s a big chunk of blue...
LineLineLineReply Interesting...
LineLineLineLineReply Well, population is the deciding factor, no?
LineLineLineLineLineReply So it is too hard?
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply No, but that kind of has nothing to do with the OP or your previous reply
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply The point is
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Well, Pennsylvania is certainly chock full of racist Republicans....
LineLineReply Oklahoma and WV - not ONE blue county.
LineLineReply If the country is split up, people will have to move to the country they prefer.
LineReply Yes, I agree...
LineReply Hmmm... 52 posts and is advocating secession
LineLineReply “Da” is my conclusion.
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LineLineReply I had the same thought
LineReply Another Southern attack...
LineReply Absolutely not...
LineReply Americans are deeply divided, but it’s not a 50-50 split
LineLineReply You would need a Constitutional Convention
LineReply Exactly what Putin and the Russians want.
LineReply Too bad you weren’t around 156 years ago.
LineLineReply That is not what the poster advocated.
LineLineNew Reply Could slaves have been freed without the civil war? Was there another way to do it?
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LineReply this is stupid...will never happen...how is the weather where you are?
LineReply This Southerner says
LineLineReply Amen!
LineReply I love this idea.
LineReply It’s easy...
LineReply I think there was a war about breaking up the Union
LineReply Let them have the north I would rather live in the south if they
LineLineNew Reply are you referring to us Southerners? You would prefer we not be here?
LineReply Wow. Just wow.
LineLineNew Reply well said
LineReply Uh... NO!
LineReply Naw
LineNew Reply It worked out great for India and Pakistan...
LineNew Reply Deep racism can be found in ALL parts
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Star Member democratisphere
1. Agreed. I believe this country should be broken up into as many as
4 to 6 countries. Our current Master Country is to big and too diverse to exist as one. The United States is no longer and never will be “United”.
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4 hrs ago
Ezior
5. Russia is winning
It’s what they want. Divided States of America.
It’s sad, but I see why you no longer want to live in a nation with “some” other US citizens.
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Star Member DrDan
11. what “they” want? Sounds to me like some here want it.
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Thor_MN
12. Exactly. Russia is just one part of what used to be the Soviet Union...
But then it collapsed and broke up. They would like to see the same thing happen to the United States.
Cutting loose the southern states that are economically challenged would be like charter schools taking only the best students. Per capita stats would go up if we excised the southern red states, but would we be truly better?
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Star Member CanonRay
29. Yes, they are winning
but I no longer see a path to reconciliation. We are divided beyond repair, IMHO.
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Irish_Dem
58. The GOP has been dividing us for decades. It is what they want.
A way to increase their power and wealth.
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lagomorph777
47. Easy to say if you live in the North.
I say we offer unlimited free beer and NASCAR on the Monday before each election.
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Star Member democratisphere
63. Think that will soften them up to vote for a more progressive positive
government. If everyone thought like Dale Earnhardt Jr., I would agree.
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Star Member radical noodle
57. I’ve been hearing this from right wingers for years
Please don’t tell me this is coming from Democratic Underground too.
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Star Member democratisphere
61. This country is too large to manage. Government is in total gridlock
and accomplishing nothing positive for most of the people. Wall Street creatures have taken over and are prepared to add trillions to the national debt so the wealthiest can have even more. Insanity rules each day and it only gets worse minute by minute. Smaller countries with far fewer layers of government would be more efficient and would reduce costs.
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Orsino
2. So dissolve the Union and let self-deportation handle the problem?
“Just form some new countries” is about ashelpful as the wingnuts’ secession fantasies.
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Star Member pangaia
6. THAT is what Putin wants!
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Star Member uponit7771
3. This is what the Russians want, screw them and their overtly obvious trolls
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Luciferous
4. Sounds good to me! I’ve been living down south now for almost 2 years and as far as I’m concerned
the Republicans can have it. The only positive moving here for me was the weather, but I would rather shovel snow than deal with right wing nutters.
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Star Member DrDan
9. roads northward are open . . . I, for one, would appreciate a few moving out of my state
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Luciferous
10. My husband has a contract that is up in a couple of months and we will be going back up north.
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Wanted to edit to say maybe I’m painting with a broad brush here, but my experience living in the south has been pretty negative. There is an attitude here of “I got mine, screw everyone else.” I’ve listened to people complaining about how “the blacks” don’t do anything, how women shouldn’t have abortions, how a soldier with PTSD who committed suicide is going to hell. I’ve never seen so much garbage on the side of the road or so many stray dogs running around. Maybe it’s just this area, but I am not impressed at all. I know there are right wing nutters up north as well, but it just seems to be more pervasive here. I have a young son that I don’t want growing up thinking that this behavior is normal or acceptable.
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Star Member AJT
18. Well, don’t come up here to Wisconsin, it’s run by the rightest of the right.
I am hoping to leave here in a few years.
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Luciferous
19. Ha, I grew up in Paul Ryan’s district! We are thinking at the very least
a progressive city in a red state. We lived in Minneapolis, I wouldn’t mind going back there. My husband would like to back to Wisconsin to be closer to family but with Walker and the Kochs systematically destroying things there I told him no.
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Star Member Blue_true
33. What southern state do you live in?
I am a southerner and live in the south now. My area is republican, but slowly becoming purple. I live in north central Florida. A word of advice, the best southern cities are university towns or coastal town, the in lands and non college towns tend to be backward. Around where I live, you can’t beat Gainesville Florida, or Tallahassee Florida. Orlando is great and progressive, as is Tampa.
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Star Member Demsrule86
28. I have hear similar things in Ohio. It is a mindset. I was fixing my
car and one was spouting off the day before yesterday.
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Star Member radical noodle
59. Don’t know what part of the south you’re in
but it’s not that bad in my part of the south. Perhaps you should seek out other Dems. They are here, you know. Look around.
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MarvinGardens
67. I live in the Atlanta suburbs.
It’s nothing like the area you describe.
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Star Member bluepen
35. +1,000,000 to that.
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forgotmylogin
42. Can we be called “South Canada”?
It’s fun to joke and speculate on something like this, but it should never happen except under the direst of circumstances.
You know we’d be having to travel-ban the Nazi terrorists from South North-America. It’d be Israel/Palestine.
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Star Member FSogol
7. Unrec.
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Star Member DrDan
8. ahhh - more bigotry/prejudice directed toward southern states
Many of us here live in the south voluntarily. Many of us here also work for and contribute to Dem candidates.
How about recognizing that there is political diversity in ALL 50 states. I am sure there are some in your heaven that would also not welcome the division you seek.
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Orrex
22. My prejudice toward the south is fully justified, thank you
You southerners get credit for being the most racist of the racist, but I’m here to tell you that rural western Pennsylvania is every bit as bigoted and racist as any caricature of the Jim Crow south that anyone has ever seen.
When are my neighbors going to steal the spotlight and get the racist recognition that they deserve?
Yinz are nothin but a buncha wannabe posers!
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Star Member Blue_true
36. I am a southerner, the south is a mixed bag.
Yes, there are still vile racists and people that are not racists but don’t confront racists. On the other side, I see more interacial children than I see anywhere in the country and I see young people of all races who are real friends, like best buddy friends. To broad brush a region is silly. But having said that, I favor splitting the country up for general social policy and fiscal policy reasons.
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Star Member Initech
13. With the right wing and their belief in not having a government...
Their country would barely last a year before they come crawling back.
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sl8
14. Imagine being the surveyor that gets the job of laying out THAT border:
http://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/
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Star Member yallerdawg
16. There’s a big chunk of blue...
in the Heart of Dixie.
Looks like an awful lot of the US has a Democratic underground!
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sarisataka
21. Interesting...
If it wasn’t for NYC, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and both Carolinas would be “bluer” than New York.
Why do we write off the South again?
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Orrex
24. Well, population is the deciding factor, no?
I have a hardcore liberal friend in Oklahoma. If not for all the other residents of the state, OK would be bluer than toilet water.
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sarisataka
25. So it is too hard?
“Why bother we won’t win anyway”
Although we only lost NC by 3%. MS and SC were both 40% for HRC.
It seems to me those states could be turned with some effort.
Too hard? Or is it just prejudice that we don’t want to try? After all, if we can turn some Southern states blue, who will we make fun of?
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Orrex
26. No, but that kind of has nothing to do with the OP or your previous reply
At least, not the way you phrased it.
If we can swing a state into the blue column, then by all means we should do so, but quibbling about which red state is almost as blue as New York minus NYC seems kind of pointless to me.
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sarisataka
32. The point is
That many states, mostly Southern, are written off as unwinnable because they are full of racist Republicans. Other states are hailed as solid blue but really are quite red except for a single high population center.
To relate that to the bigoted OP, it would make more sense give right-wingers NY and PA, carving out NYC and Philadelphia, than to abandon the South.
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Orrex
41. Well, Pennsylvania is certainly chock full of racist Republicans....
Aside from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and sometimes Scranton. Idiot racist fuckheads from one border to the other. As famously noticed, it’s Pitt on one side, Philly on the other, and West Virginia in between.
But it’s still about population distribution. If New York State is strongly Democratic simply because of the huge population of NYC, then that’s what we must address.
If North Carolina is weakly Republican because of the large population of Republicans (rural and otherwise), then that’s what we must address.
It remains pointless to compare subdivisions of states to try to figure out which subdivisions are almost more Democratic.
> I personally won’t click on DU unless it’s to read them having a nervous breakdown about this or that. <
During the primaries DU was a good place to post anti-Hillary stuff, as they had a large Bernie contingent. But the Bernie folks have all been pretty much purged.
DU is a crude, vile site. F-bombs everywhere. Good for no one’s mental health, including liberals.
Why can’t you spell a little of this out here, dude? We don’t play click-bait games on FR do we?
If you think that’s clever, it’s not. It’s just lazy and below FR standards.
FOOD?!! How can you think of food at a time like this?
;o)
These people are hilarious.
A few replies to this idiocy ...
First, racism is alive and well in their precious Pittsburgh. I’ve lived here all of my life and see it constantly ... mostly from leftist union drunks in local dive bars. If they think Oakland (the home of the universities in the area) is not racist, try and have them explain why they moved all of the low cost housing out of the Hill at Pitt’s request.
Second, they think cutting off the south will make their progressive Utopia look smarter and richer. Don’t they realize why public schools are a total disaster is due to their inner city enclaves?
Third ... it is HILARIOUS to see the left all concerned about Russia. You couldn’t convince these scummy idiots that they really were an evil empire back in the 80s. Now they see the light ... all because of politics.
Fourth ... If they had brains, they’d understand why we conservatives are concerned about power being distributed among the states vs. a large, massive, centralized monster that currently exists ... mostly due to THEIR idiotic mindset!!!
Fifth ... “Could slaves have been freed without the civil war? Was there another way to do it?” ... yes, wait about 10 years instead of forcing the nation to kill one another. It was pretty clear back then that it was dying off (people all across the world were eliminating it). Instead of killing one another, all everyone had to do was wait a decade and it more than likely would have been eradicated naturally like it was everywhere else.
Sixth ... “Agreed. I believe this country should be broken up into as many as 4 to 6 countries. Our current Master Country is to big and too diverse to exist as one. The United States is no longer and never will be “United”.”
How about 50 States being restored their power with a LIMITED Federal Government? They’re frigging buffoons if they think 4 to 6 additional countries are going to live in peace on this continent. Look at what the so-called enlightened people do in Europe once a century ... they seem to like to kill a lot of people. If we weren’t there subsidizing their peace, I’m sure one of the more ornery nations would have already gone on another killing spree.
These people are frigging ridiculous. THey have every single solution to their “problems” if they’d just eliminate the Federal Government’s massive bureaucracy and restore power to their states ... they’d be able to see how idiotic their “solutions” are locally.
California was briefly a republic as well. As was Vermont. And Hawaii was a monarchy.
LOL! If these twits were stranded at sea in a life boat and they suspected the hull of being conservative, they would punch holes in it out of spite.
BTW - what do they consider “the south”? Last I checked, with the exception of some big city pockets, small dots and the coasts, the whole country is red.
If we get the south, then we’d have to build two walls.
The concept of secession is becoming mainstream and less of a horrible thing, always to be avoided and never to be contemplated. Instead, it seems more and more people of all political persuasions are embracing the idea. This is a good thing.
There is always a place for bacon.
I suggest the individuals just move to Canada or Mexico instead of taking an entire state with them by the act of succession.
JoMa
These lobotomized idiots forget that their beloved Freak State of Maryland is/was considered part of “the South.”
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