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Dinosaur Dung Fertilizes Planet, New Research Shows
Science Daily / Science News ^ | October 16, 2017 | Northern Arizona University

Posted on 10/28/2017 3:25:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Christopher Doughty, faculty member in the School of Informatics, Computing and Cyber Systems at Northern Arizona University... "Theory suggests that large animals are disproportionately important to the spread of fertility across the planet... What better way to test this than to compare fertility in the world during the Cretaceous period -- where sauropods, the largest herbivores to exist, roamed freely -- to the Carboniferous period -- a time in Earth's history before four-legged erbivores evolved." During these two periods, plants were buried faster than they could decompose. As a result, coal was formed. Doughty gathered coal samples from mines throughout the U.S. By measuring the coal elemental concentrations, he found elements needed by plants, like phosphorus, were more abundant and much better distributed during the era of the dinosaurs than the Carboniferous. The data also revealed that elements not needed by plants and animals, such as aluminum, showed no difference, suggesting the herbivores contributed to increased global fertility. According to Doughty, these large animals are important not for the quantity of dung they produce, but for their ability to move long distances across landscapes, effectively mixing the nutrients. By increasing the abundance and distribution of elements like phosphorus, plants grow faster, meaning large herbivores are responsible for producing their own food and contributing to their lush habitats... Simply put, fewer large animals may mean less plant growth."

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: cretaceous; dinosaurs; dungbeetles; godsgravesglyphs
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[snip]The study places the evolution of dung beetles at about 115 to 130 million years ago in the Lower Cretaceous. "Surprisingly, the timing and diversification of dung beetles is correlated with the ecological dominance of angiosperms," said lead author Dr. Nicole Gunter, invertebrate zoology collections manager at The Cleveland Museum of Natural History. "Through these findings, we hypothesize that the incorporation of flowering plants in the diet of dinosaurs resulted in the first palatable dung source for feeding..." ... "Dinosaurs were the dominant terrestrial animals for 135 million years and definitely shaped ecosystems throughout their existence," said co-author Dr. Stephen Cameron of Queensland University of Technology in Australia. "This paper is the first to demonstrate that the speciation of a group was tied to utilizing dinosaurs as an ecological resource--their dung." The scientists note the existence of dinosaur coprolites (fossilized feces) showing evidence of tunneling attributed to dung beetle feeding dated at 70 to 80 million years ago, which is in line with the new hypothesis on dung beetle evolution outlined in this new study.[/snip] -- New evidence connects dung beetle evolution to dinosaurs [May 4, 2016]

1 posted on 10/28/2017 3:25:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SteveH; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks SteveH. I dung think I would have seen this otherwise. Attn all: this marks my first posted topic since returning, also the first time I've added any keywords in that same time frame.

2 posted on 10/28/2017 3:28:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Okay, but it seems to have brought about a mass die-off of paragraphs! :)


3 posted on 10/28/2017 3:31:09 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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Earthworm’s plight is early warning of threat to man
The Times | July 29, 2008 | Mike Wade
Posted on 07/30/2008 5:31:04 AM PDT by Soliton
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2053597/posts


4 posted on 10/28/2017 3:31:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

DC is heavily fertilized by BS from Ditch, Weasel Mueller, CNN, H->!, et.al.


5 posted on 10/28/2017 3:32:28 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: sparklite2

Yeah, my excerpting is an extinction-level event. :^)


6 posted on 10/28/2017 3:33:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
Was there more of any other substance that aided plant growth?


7 posted on 10/28/2017 3:36:01 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The headline suggests present tense. Kind of misleading.


8 posted on 10/28/2017 3:37:03 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Paladin2

Dy-no-media!



Dy-no-media!

9 posted on 10/28/2017 3:40:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: raybbr

It is present tense, so, not misleading.


10 posted on 10/28/2017 3:40:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

So that is where french cuisine came from.. (ducks the escargot).. love the bread.

Every drink you take

Every pie you bake

OOO0000oooo...


11 posted on 10/28/2017 3:47:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Does this include the members of the U.S. Senate ?


12 posted on 10/28/2017 3:48:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Simply put, fewer large animals may mean less plant growth.”

Well them thar ‘science guys’ had better hurry on up with that Woolly Mammoth cloning project, then! I’ve GOTS to have my ‘maters and ‘taters! ;)


13 posted on 10/28/2017 3:48:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: SunkenCiv

If there was a vote, I vote for this as most wonderful headline ever. (Well, except for Trump winning.)


14 posted on 10/28/2017 3:51:50 PM PDT by mairdie
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To: SunkenCiv

Okay, are they truly suggesting that dung 65 million years old us still fertilizing the planet? I’m not buying it.


15 posted on 10/28/2017 3:51:51 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: SunkenCiv

Why is a guy in the Artificial Intelligence Dept. talking about dinosaurs when he can be working on NASA Robonaut?

https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/military-robots/nasa-jsc-unveils-valkyrie-drc-robot


16 posted on 10/28/2017 3:56:01 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: SunkenCiv

Welcome back! Missed your posts!

Interesting. I do not think there is any question that large animals helped make nutrients available, spread bacteria, and fertilized the earth. However....

As something of a gardener, I have to argue here for the earthworm. Earth worms predate Dinosaurs and are little soil enriching bacteria factories. What comes out is more nutrient rich than the inputs, and they have been at it a longer time. The Dinosaurs, for the most part, came and went. (The Conquering Worm endures!)

https://www.quora.com/How-old-are-earthworms-as-a-species

“Earthworms had almost certainly started emerging by the Devonian period when plants began to spread across dry land and develop roots. Fossils have been found for modern forms from the following Carboniferous period 360-300 MYA.

So yes, they predate the Dinosaurs. Worms in general pre-date all vertebrates. When exactly earthworms got a foothold in the soil is hard to pinpoint, my guess is that the spread of free sporing vascular plants expanded a new ecological niche which earthworms filled.”


17 posted on 10/28/2017 3:56:41 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You mean some of these http://allrecipes.com/video/6650/baking-bacon/?internalSource=picture_play&referringId=255277&referringContentType=recipe and some of these http://allrecipes.com/video/3618/fondant-potatoes/?internalSource=picture_play&referringId=233295&referringContentType=recipe


18 posted on 10/28/2017 3:56:44 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: SunkenCiv

And when Dino "downloaded" his dung (so to speak), he was not messing around, so this valuable fertilizer is quite plentiful (especially near the Dino restrooms).


       


(Not sure if that's a "one-scoop-dino-poop" or a "two-scoop-dino-poop", but I'm sure that that will probably make a difference somehow to CNN.)

19 posted on 10/28/2017 3:57:16 PM PDT by Pray All Day
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To: SunkenCiv
Also Chernozem - there are belts of this in the USA and Europe.

It's decomposed and composted steppe grass.

In the Ukraine, they have a layer of high quality topsoil that is greater than 6 feet deep.

20 posted on 10/28/2017 3:58:27 PM PDT by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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