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Oldest recorded solar eclipse helps date the Egyptian pharaohs
Science Daily ^ | October 29, 2017 | University of Cambridge

Posted on 10/31/2017 12:52:19 PM PDT by Twotone

Researchers have pinpointed the date of what could be the oldest solar eclipse yet recorded. The event, which occurred on 30 October 1207 BC, is mentioned in the Bible, and could have consequences for the chronology of the ancient world.

Using a combination of the biblical text and an ancient Egyptian text, the researchers were then able to refine the dates of the Egyptian pharaohs, in particular the dates of the reign of Ramesses the Great. The results are published in the Royal Astronomical Society journal Astronomy & Geophysics.

The biblical text in question comes from the Old Testament book of Joshua and has puzzled biblical scholars for centuries. It records that after Joshua led the people of Israel into Canaan -- a region of the ancient Near East that covered modern-day Israel and Palestine -- he prayed: "Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon. And the Sun stood still, and the Moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies."

"If these words are describing a real observation, then a major astronomical event was taking place -- the question for us to figure out is what the text actually means," said paper co-author Professor Sir Colin Humphreys from the University of Cambridge's Department of Materials Science & Metallurgy, who is also interested in relating scientific knowledge to the Bible.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; History
KEYWORDS: 4thdynasty; bookofjoshua; cheops; eclipse; egypt; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; khufu; pharaohs; solareclipse
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1 posted on 10/31/2017 12:52:19 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone; SunkenCiv

PinGGG!..................


2 posted on 10/31/2017 12:54:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date pharaohs
3 posted on 10/31/2017 12:57:29 PM PDT by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: Twotone

But what was the temperature of the earth that day??


4 posted on 10/31/2017 1:08:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The Pharaohs started global warming by building the Pyramids to suck all of the sun`s heat into them.


5 posted on 10/31/2017 1:23:53 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: Twotone

And knowledge Shall increase....


6 posted on 10/31/2017 1:39:01 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Twotone
leading to the characteristic 'ring of fire' appearance

This is such a crock!

It doesn't look like a ring of fire. It looks like something to bright too look at.

I don't know about this specific annular eclipse but my guess is that most would go unnoticed were it not for modern predictions. Yes, the light from the sun is diminished, but the human eye adjusts just like when clouds cover the sun. People just don't go around checking out the sun from time to time.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 10/31/2017 1:45:58 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Big Red Badger

I don’t think the event recorded in the bible has anything to do with an eclipse.


8 posted on 10/31/2017 2:01:12 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Twotone

If this is based on the presumption that Ramesses the Great was the Pharaoh of the Exodus, that is very much in debate among both Egyptologists and Exodus scholars.


9 posted on 10/31/2017 2:10:05 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: ml/nj
my guess is that most would go unnoticed were it not for modern predictions.

You obviously have NOT witnessed a solar eclipse.

10 posted on 10/31/2017 2:33:28 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: chajin
If this is based on the presumption that Ramesses the Great was the Pharaoh of the Exodus, that is very much in debate among both Egyptologists and Exodus scholars.

It is a shame no one wrote any of this stuff down.

11 posted on 10/31/2017 2:46:14 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: BwanaNdege
You obviously have NOT witnessed a solar eclipse.

I witnessed the last one and had I not heard it on the TV I would not have noticed a thing. Chickens didn't go to roost or anything.

12 posted on 10/31/2017 2:47:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: ml/nj

When it suddenly gets twilight dark in the middle of the day without a cloud in the sky people damn sure do look up.


13 posted on 10/31/2017 2:50:24 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: BwanaNdege
Acctually, Sherlock, I have; most recently about two months ago. Here's a picture I took:
Ten minutes after totality ended, nearly everyone where I had watched, packed up and left. We're talking still 95% total.

You know why we all left? It's because there's nothing interesting going on when 5% of the sun's light gets through.

ML/NJ

14 posted on 10/31/2017 2:58:01 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: discostu
When it suddenly gets twilight dark in the middle of the day without a cloud in the sky people damn sure do look up.

It doesn't get "twilight dark" until 98% of the sun is obscured. If that's the maximum totality you experience, you experience it for ten seconds and then it's daylight again. Throughout the sun is too bright to look at.

By now I've probably experienced 10 90%+ partial eclipses plus three total eclipses. The first total eclipse I traveled to was obscured by clouds that rolled in five minutes before totality. It was a big nothing. During the partial eclipses, people look for strange shadows under trees. Other animals don't care. Big whoop.

ML/NJ

15 posted on 10/31/2017 3:09:28 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Just because you’ve chosen to take the stance of a jaded hipster doesn’t change the fact that a total eclipse experienced by a society who doesn’t know what’s going on WILL come as a shock and WILL make people look up. And the duration is generally longer than 5 minutes. And then of course if they look at it too long they’ll damage their eye sight. Very much a ring of fire to primitive people that don’t know what’s going on.


16 posted on 10/31/2017 3:20:31 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu
Just because you’ve chosen to take the stance of a jaded hipster doesn’t change the fact that a total eclipse experienced by a society who doesn’t know what’s going on WILL come as a shock and WILL make people look up. And the duration is generally longer than 5 minutes. And then of course if they look at it too long they’ll damage their eye sight. Very much a ring of fire to primitive people that don’t know what’s going on.

I guess you have trouble reading and want to continue to embarrass yourself here. This wasn't a total eclipse that this article is about. Read it.

Total eclipses that last longer than five minutes are exceedingly rare. None that I've experienced even lasted three minutes. There was one eclipse cycle that produced seven minute eclipses in 1973 (Africa) and 1991 (Mexico) but this cycle has ended. The next eclipse visible in the USA will be the longest one I have a chance to see. It will be four and half minutes in Mexico, but by the time it gets to NY it will be down to three and a half minutes.

I am the one with knowledge and experience here. Grow up.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 10/31/2017 3:42:28 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Eclipses ARE noticeable, especially to people who didn’t have cellphones to stick their noses in and are actually experiencing the world around them.

You are the jaded one pretending to have knowledge but really just pointless insulting people and just plain refusing to understand the difference between our world when we know eclipses are coming decades out and their world when the sun would suddenly and inexplicably be darker than it should be. Grow up yourself, stop trying to impress people, because your very need to impress makes you unimpressive.


18 posted on 10/31/2017 4:02:58 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

The ancients didn’t have cable tv, so they spent a good amount of time watching the sky instead. Their knowledge of the positions of the constellations, of the sun and the moon cycles, and of the seasons was thorough and precise.


19 posted on 10/31/2017 4:10:36 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: nicollo

Not that thorough and precise. Remember not all of them figured out what was rotating around what. And if you don’t have the orbital mechanics down then eclipses can be surprising. But they were definitely paying attention and would have noticed eclipses.


20 posted on 10/31/2017 4:13:18 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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