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I Have an Alternative to AA That’s Gotten Thousands off Drinking
New York Post ^ | January 4, 2018 | Lauren Steussy

Posted on 01/04/2018 12:36:11 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Jeff Chandler

Oh Man,now I’m gonna look it up.


61 posted on 01/04/2018 2:35:47 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Texan5

So basically, I didn’t quit drinking, i just switched drinks ?
AA is not a self-help program.


62 posted on 01/04/2018 2:36:40 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: nickcarraway

Waking up next to the Hildabeast would do it for most.


63 posted on 01/04/2018 2:43:17 PM PST by LambSlave
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To: nickcarraway

AA is not about shame. I love AA. If I hadn’t qualified for it with my drinking, not sure where I’d be.


64 posted on 01/04/2018 2:44:23 PM PST by bfkirk
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To: stylin19a

In case management-workers comp especially—the person/entity that pays gets to decide what addiction/abuse treatment they will write a check for, they let the case manager know and we see that it is implemented that way. Any group or program that does not utilize professionals is classified as a “self help” program-doesn’t matter if it is AA, NA, the program in the article or any of the other such programs/groups. That is just the way it is when a provider is paying for rehab-they demand professional monitoring and therapy, as well as provable results. If you are paying yourself, then do whatever works for you, of course...

If someone trades one addiction/obsession for another, that is a switch-not a cure. And I didn’t say that you did that-I have no idea what you did-only what I’ve observed in my professional and personal life. I made it clear that one size does not fit all-also-if you learned at AA or some other place a way to get my cousin to stop with the sugary, high fructose loaded soda that is his new addiction, please let me know-my whole family will thank you-we are afraid he will ruin all his organs with that stuff...


65 posted on 01/04/2018 3:04:29 PM PST by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Adverse life experiences such as physical/emotional abuse may make some turn to alcohol and drug abuse (and smoking). These are just coping devices and without them they may suffer with unrelieved stress which can lead to other health problems.

There’s more to it than just a bad habit they picked up.


66 posted on 01/04/2018 3:10:44 PM PST by southerncookie
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" Grace researched alcohol’s ill effects and journaled about why she was drinking in an effort to dismantle the assumptions that she had made about the substance — that it was calming her nerves or making her more interesting. In fact, she found, it didn’t do any of that."

This sounds parallel to Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking"


67 posted on 01/04/2018 3:13:20 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EEGator

Wow had no idea.


68 posted on 01/04/2018 3:21:17 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

In my day that was called a KEG


69 posted on 01/04/2018 3:22:07 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: BBB333

All that Almanden I drank in the 70s!
lol


70 posted on 01/04/2018 3:23:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: kkalman

You know you’re drinking cheap wine when the box has an expiration date. Seriously you can find some decent wines in boxes.

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Just cannot get that juice box picture out of my mind.


71 posted on 01/04/2018 3:24:17 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup
"Wine comes in BOXES????"

Her wine came in Bekin's Van Lines moving boxes. She REALLY had a drinking problem.


72 posted on 01/04/2018 3:24:35 PM PST by moovova
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To: wally_bert

I saw wine in a box in the first Grumpy Old Men movie.

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I’d be grumpy too if I had to drink wine out of a (juice) box.


73 posted on 01/04/2018 3:25:19 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Ed Condon

The first place I encountered wine in a box, was in Australia in 1975.

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There is uncommonly fine Australian wine...in bottles...


74 posted on 01/04/2018 3:26:38 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Osage Orange

Actually I’ve had some decent wine from a box.....

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I believe you.

I am still trying to wrap my head around the screw tops on some decent vintages. The Mad Dog 20/20 vision keeps cropping up.


75 posted on 01/04/2018 3:28:05 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

no, much bigger boxes.

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Or perhaps a little six pack...with little straws and a cookie?


76 posted on 01/04/2018 3:29:09 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: deport

Top one please?


77 posted on 01/04/2018 3:29:43 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Osage Orange

all I can say is that I bet Donald Trump doesn’t drink his wine from an oversized juice box.


78 posted on 01/04/2018 3:30:52 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: moovova

“Wine comes in BOXES????”
Her wine came in Bekin’s Van Lines moving boxes

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and a really long straw!


79 posted on 01/04/2018 3:32:02 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: nickcarraway

I ran 10 miles a day and drank 10 beers a day for almost 20 years. Loved every minute...till my knees gave out. Then realized the ten beers was to mask the pain of the knees ha! I cut back to 6 and swim a mile a day now.


80 posted on 01/04/2018 3:35:56 PM PST by DainBramage
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