Posted on 02/03/2018 7:00:00 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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When in my research all this came up and likened it to giving individuals depression and aggression via the frequency of the music being broadcast. I wondered if anyone ever heard of frequency changes having any effects and being that rude might qualify.. period.
You posted a mountain of stuff! And on the different frequencies.. it isn’t noticed by ear.. they want it to be subliminal I guess.. control without blame. My son is a musician and has perfect pitch.. you may have had even if you did not know it.. what does that frequency sound like
That last comment was to you.. doing this on my phone doesn’t work as well.
I’m safe. I only listen to Baroque music played on original instruments and original tuning.
I very much doubt that the frequency of music has anything to do with depression or aggression. As I pointed out the frequency between A440 or A435 or A532 is not discernable to most people’s ears and no scientific studies has shown any correlation that one frequency over another has any effect on mood or behavior.
When you listen to a piece of music, you are not listening to just the A440 frequency but to a whole and wide range of frequencies and notes.
Now if you want to discuss the lyrical and social content in, especially a lot of modern music, that’s another matter. But that is IMO more a reflection of changes in social morals as a whole rather than the frequency of the music itself.
I would be more likely to blame the social ills you described to other factors such as the breakdown of the traditional family unit, i.e. marriage and two parent households, the increase of illegitimate children raised by single mothers who can’t adequately care for them either physically or socially, the welfare state and entitlement mindset, the promiscuous sex without consequences, the breakdown of traditional neighborhoods and of the churches and schools and the morals that once used to be taught there. Sure a lot of modern music lyrically may promote such ills, but IMO didn’t cause them but more likely are a reflection of them.
But it isn’t cause by some violinist or some guitarist or trumpeter or saxophonist are tuning their instrument to A440.
First I’ll admit I haven’t read the article yet.
I have a seizure disorder, and one of my primary triggers is the music that is popular today (both pop and country). 80’s era music - no problem. Why would that be?
I have no idea. Instead of asking me, have you consulted with a neurologist about your problem? If so, what have they said?
So, that is why we all burned the Disco albums at Wriggly Field...And I thought it was because they made me vomit.
Yep
The very existence of harmonics and their correlation to the Fibonacci sequence indicates that there is a precise harmonic structure in physics.
My apologies - I inadvertently directed my post to you personally rather than to the general thread population.
Of course I am under the care of a neurologist. He tells me that music is not an uncommon seizure trigger, but is equally puzzled as to why only certain types of music are a problem for me.
As for my question, I was simply wondering if the issue discussed in this thread might be related.
Uff! Seriously dreary music...
Stravinsky.
If there was music written to create anger it would be rap music. I think the artists know this when they write it.
I understand that C&W bars sell more beer when they play fast country rather than slow country music. That’s a kind of control.
Manipulating the creation of music to produce an effect means manipulation of the artist. In a collectivist setting, like Russia or China or NK, where only the state sponsors the artist they can direct his efforts.
Not to dispute what your neurologist told you, but seizures from music, while reported and documented, is not all that common, it is actually quite rare according to most medical literature. Some think while certain types of music and or pitches can trigger seizures in some highly sensitive people, it is thought in some cases also due to emotional responses rather than a physical trigger.
http://epilepsyontario.org/musicogenic-seizures/
So what is so different in 80’s era music from music that is popular today?
If I were you doctor (and I’m not a doctor so take my advice for what it is worth…) I would ask you to keep a diary of exactly what songs trigger a seizure and compare them to perhaps similar types of music that doesn’t.
A lot of pop music today use “auto tune” which wasn’t used quite so much in 80’s era music. Perhaps it is the “auto tune” voice modulation that triggers your seizures. I wouldn’t discount that as a trigger. It triggers me – it sure pisses me off for being bad music but doesn’t cause me seizures, yet…but it could in others.
And by my saying that your seizures may have a component of an emotional response, that doesn’t make them any less real, beyond your control and debilitating, it is just another component that you may want to consider and take up with your neurologist.
I wish you the best. I have a niece who has struggled for years with seizures but none of her many tests, EKG's and brain scans ever showed anything. In her case it wasn't epilepsy or what early on was misdiagnosed as a brain tumor but an emotional problem due to a sort of PSTD when she had (allegedly) been molested as a child.
I only say "allegedly" because in her case as an adult she was diagnosed with being bi-polar and I unfortunately fell victim to her repeated lies including convincing me and the rest of her family she had leukemia and was dying only later to learn she was scamming us and others for emotional and financial support.
But I witnessed a couple of her seizures and if she was faking them, then she should get an Academy Award. I do believe they were very real but triggered by her emotional problems.
Again, don’t misunderstand me and think I’m saying your seizures are due purely to emotion. Brain science doesn’t yet understand all the things and triggers that can cause seizures.
Photosensitive epilepsy is very real so there is certainly cause to believe that certain sound stimuli can also cause it.
I agree music is used to control youth and whatever works for the controller.. a crowd can be whipped onto a frenzy with a constant hard beat and some drugs added.. but I don’t know if a frequency can alter the mood and mind. Sad country songs fit a down mood and make it worse.. what we see now is youth with it plugged in their ears.. not good.
Thanks for the reply.
I definitely agree that the autotune, synthesizers, and other technologies performers use to “enhance” their voices are the main factor that differentiates between music that seems to scrambles my brain waves (invoking seizures) and music that does not.
Problem is - there is apparently nothing I can do about it other than avoiding the offensive music. That is so difficult to do, as nearly every restaurant, store, sporting event, and other public venue seems obligated to play music.
Thanks again for replying and for the information you provided.
YES! Thanks for the reminder! The natural harmonies are that way for a reason!
I have “Queen Of My Double Wide Trailer” by Sammy Kershaw stuck in my head.
I have had worse songs stuck in my head.
It is peppy yet depressing. I think I find trailer homes depressing as a matter of policy.
Or maybe it’s Sammy’s sad, sad backstory.
Believe or not the short answer is... yes.
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