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Man suspects wife caught fatal flesh-eating bacteria in Clearwater hot tub
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Posted on 05/11/2018 7:15:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Jane Long

It really does not make a difference.

There are all sorts of creepy crawlies that can survive in that water either body of water for quite some time, even if heavily chlorinated.


21 posted on 05/11/2018 8:42:18 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: The Bugler

I had no idea. I’ve always washed on hot when I used bleach...no wonder I get disappointed with the results.


22 posted on 05/11/2018 9:01:38 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: The Bugler

Heat drastically reduces the effectiveness of bleach. IE: You don’t wash whites with bleach in hot water.

Clorox would be to differ with you suggestion. From their website:

“For maximum cleaning, stain and soil removal, one should wash with hot water with detergent and Clorox® Regular-Bleach. For household cleaning and disinfecting, Clorox® Regular-Bleach is the most cost-effective disinfectant and can be used in hot, warm or cold water.Aug 12, 2010

Water Temperature and Bleach | Clorox®
Clorox › laundry-basics › bleach-101


23 posted on 05/11/2018 9:09:26 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: MayflowerMadam

“Nothing could make me step a foot in that tub. Nothing.”

You got that right. After ten pm it’s a giant vat of egg drop soup.


24 posted on 05/11/2018 9:22:49 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Foolsgold

Omg, you poor man!! You lost your toes and a leg to iatrogenic condition! That is just awful. I’m sorry.


25 posted on 05/11/2018 9:25:38 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: The Bugler

I didn’t know that. I do bleach and hot every day for my mom’s pee laundry. Really, it shouldn’t be hot water?


26 posted on 05/11/2018 9:27:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: BenLurkin

A guy I know who is in resort management explained just how nasty those pools and hot tubs get. I won’t get in one for anything.


27 posted on 05/11/2018 9:34:01 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: The Bugler

Q.

I have a friend who told me that in college he was told that hot water makes bleach less effective. Is this true? I always wash my whites in the hottest water. Thank you for your input.
A.

Thanks for the great question. Here is what I would tell your friend: washing white and safely bleachable colorfast items with Clorox® Regular-Bleach in the hottest water possible will give you the best cleaning and whitening performance because its effectiveness increases with temperature. Perhaps you would like to avoid an “I’m right, and you’re wrong” gloating response to his opinion (not really good for a friendship) by applying what he was told to the proper storage of bleach. In that case, he is correct: Clorox® Regular-Bleach should ideally be stored at room temperature (70°F) because the active ingredient in liquid bleach, sodium hypochlorite, is very sensitive to high heat storage conditions. Basically, you want to store it at normal room temperature to prolong its active life, and when you add it to a load of laundry, use hot water because you want it as active as possible for the best performance. As a bleach user, he definitely sounds like a friend worth having!

Read more at https://www.clorox.com/how-to/laundry-basics/bleach-101/hot-water-and-bleach/


28 posted on 05/11/2018 10:20:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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To: The Bugler

Q.

Recently my family was cleaning my grandma’s house. I was using hot water with bleach to wipe things down, thinking I was disinfecting the surfaces. My sister-in-law informed me that when you use hot water with bleach, you deactivate the bleach. I have never heard this before, is this true? She said to only use cold water with bleach when cleaning.
A.

She’s probably referring to the CBS Early Show segment on Germ Warfare: The Laundry Room. While I didn’t see it live, I have reviewed the presentation and the only thing that I took issue with was their “expert” and his comment about bleach losing its efficacy in hot water.

The facts are:

Clorox® Regular-Bleach disinfects effectively in hot, warm or cold water whether for laundry or household cleaning/disinfecting.

For maximum cleaning, stain and soil removal, one should wash with hot water with detergent and Clorox® Regular-Bleach.

For household cleaning and disinfecting, Clorox® Regular-Bleach is the most cost-effective disinfectant and can be used in hot, warm or cold water.

Overall, the consumer has several choices to obtain sanitizing and disinfecting with Clorox® Regular-Bleach.

Hope this clears up any confusion on the subject. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Read more at https://www.clorox.com/how-to/laundry-basics/bleach-101/water-temperature-and-bleach/


29 posted on 05/11/2018 10:22:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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To: The Bugler

One of the first things I learned in chemistry is that heat increases the rate of chemical reactions. That would presumably include bleach’s effect on bacterial proteins.

Weirdly enough, according to a German college website, the body’s immune system works in a similar manner:

http://news.rub.de/english/press-releases/2018-03-06-immune-system-bleach-main-ingredient-toxic-cocktail-destroying-bacteria
When bacteria enter the blood stream, neutrophil granulocytes, the most common white blood cells, are the first line of defence. They literally devour the invaders – a process that is referred to as phagocytosis. They engulf each bacterium and shower it with a toxic cocktail made up of so-called reactive oxygen species. Those include hydrogen peroxide, an ingredient of many antiseptic agents, and chlorine bleach. These substances destroy the molecules of the bacterium through oxidation – a chemical reaction, in which the oxidation states of atoms are changed.


30 posted on 05/11/2018 10:31:48 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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To: Zhang Fei

If the public hot tub was problematic in terms of chlorine levels, there may be a lawsuit in the works.
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Hot tubs don’t use chlorine as it evaporates very quickly when the water temp is 85 or above... Hot tubs use Bromine.


31 posted on 05/11/2018 11:26:23 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: Snickering Hound
"Flesh eating bacteria is not a virus. So much for editing."

You sound like a really fungi. ;)

32 posted on 05/12/2018 4:39:32 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: BenLurkin

Logically, it had to be contracted at the Days Inn hot tub ... because the ocean isn’t insured.


33 posted on 05/12/2018 5:42:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: BipolarBob

My neighbor died from flesh eating bacteria (1995).
They thought it was from a scratch.
From a rose bush.
Sad day.


34 posted on 05/12/2018 6:39:29 AM PDT by barbarianbabs
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To: Zhang Fei

“Bacteria die instantaneously upon contact with pool water. Hot tubs are a different animal.”

OK, got this now. Public hot tubs to be avoided at all costs. How about your own private Hot Tub?

We had one here when we first bought our house, but it was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy. We have been thinking about getting another one. If it is nothing but a germ lab, I can pass on that easily.


35 posted on 05/12/2018 7:09:40 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Robert DeLong

“So remember that vacationers.”

FB-style thumbs up to you!


36 posted on 05/12/2018 7:10:58 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Flick Lives

90% of the germs, STDs, viruses, bacteria and other ickies weren’t around or at least were never heard of outside a lab or not of concern when I was a kid. These man made things will wipe out the human race long before gobull warming.


37 posted on 05/12/2018 7:34:52 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

And peanut and/or tree nut allergies. Never heard of it when I was a kid. Two of my kids have them.


38 posted on 05/12/2018 7:38:15 AM PDT by stevio (MAGA)
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To: BenLurkin

Super 8 Hot Tub = Darwin


39 posted on 05/12/2018 7:59:22 AM PDT by cp124 (FUGOPe)
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To: BenLurkin

The only time I’ve ever even used a whirlpool at a hotel, I ran a quart of bleach through it before I used it. I don’t trust hotels to adequately clean. As a nurse, I think it should be a law, that anyone who works in food service, or cleaning involving restrooms, should have to learn a little microbiology. They should also learn how to properly wash their hands. The best way to get the hand washing point across, is to use a product that shows how much bacteria is left on the hands after the person thinks they have done a good job of washing their hands. And for those of you who may need a little microbiologist lesson., remember that when you use a public restroom, 1)Assume every surface you touch is contaminated (because it IS), 2)When you wash your hands, DO NOT touch the paper towel dispenser lever, the door knob, OR the faucet with your hands after you wash them. Always use a paper towel or tissue to work the lever on the paper towel dispenser, touch the door knob, or turn off the water, because it’s almost guaranteed that the people who used those items before you, turned on the faucet with their dirty hands, washed their hands (probably inadequately), then used their (maybe) “clean” hands to turn off the faucet, which still has on it whatever was on their hands when they turned it ON, thereby re-contaminating their hands, plus the paper towel lever and the door knob, when they’re finished.
Good hand washing is the number one way to prevent the spread of disease. The good news is, our immune system, if it’s working properly, is able to fend off a good many exposures to bacteria that are commonly found in our general own environment. The bad news is, that the flu, and other viral diseases, mutate frequently, so our immune systems don’t “know” them well enough to have formed antibodies against them. And don’t get me started on grocery cart handles. They’re a giant YUK!
(And no, I’m not a “clean freak”. I’m a lousy housekeeper, though I’m very careful with food handling, but it’s my dirt, so I’m immune to it.) 8^)


40 posted on 05/12/2018 8:49:38 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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