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Trump's Big North Korean Moment Is Either A Masterstroke Or A Horrible Debacle.
Daily Wire | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 06/13/2018 12:17:47 PM PDT by RevelationDavid

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To: RevelationDavid

Ben Shapiro is a weasel. He was anti-Trump early on, even calling Trump “immoral” for the Muslim ban, even though he has written articles calling for deporting all Palestinians out of Israel.

Shapiro wants unlimited immigration into the USA, and just because he seems to switch back to our side after being full NeverTrump—even backing the hoax against Lewandowski, that whole fiasco where that stupid b**** from Breitbart claimed Lewandowski pulled her to the ground—doesn’t mean he’s not a little rat on the inside.

Shapiro sees North Korea and sees a country he wants nuked, nothing more.


41 posted on 06/13/2018 1:30:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: robroys woman
if history is any measure

Really? Shapiro was and is NeverTrump and didn't believe Trump would be President. He is a clown.

42 posted on 06/13/2018 1:31:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Ditto everything you said, plus this: the left hates Trump because he is sane.


43 posted on 06/13/2018 1:32:45 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: jospehm20

I recall similar arguments being made against Reagan’s opening to the USSR under Gorbachev. Reagan, of course, was right then, as Trump is now. In both instances, dangerous and seemingly solid communist regimes were broke and headed toward collapse due to U.S. pressure. Reagan offered an illusory way out for a regime that was doomed, and Trump is now doing much of the same. Pulling North Korea’s nuclear fangs in return for minor concessions is the equivalent of giving a dying desperado a drink of water and kind words as you take his guns away and get ready to send for the undertaker.


44 posted on 06/13/2018 1:34:29 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: TheTimeOfMan
Bottom line, he’s out there going to college campuses and debating the devil while most of ya’ll sit on your asses.

Don't get fooled by the scam. No one cares anymore about how stupid SJWs are. It's a fact. Shapiro is beating the dead horse. Does he still want an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians but says banning Muslims from the USA is immoral? Does Shapiro still think the Pro-Amnesty Republicans are "conservatives"? Ben is such an obvious scam artist it's incredible. He's basically of the same breed as Ted Cruz and his lying ilk.

45 posted on 06/13/2018 1:34:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Wuli
Careful Ben. You are not supposed to critisize a G-d

Pretty absurd to take criticism of Shapiro and turn it into a "you people are idolaters." Do you even know anything about Ben Shapiro? Do you agree with Ben Shapiro that Palestinian men, women and children should be forcefully removed from Israel (I don't think it's a bad thing, but I like to color it up for the contrast), but that Trump is immoral and anti-American to favor travel bans? Do you really want to go through the list of all the things that make Ben Shapiro an insufferable leftist?

We can start. But then you might accuse me of being in a cult and worshiping men if I do so.

46 posted on 06/13/2018 1:40:23 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Really? Shapiro was and is NeverTrump and didn’t believe Trump would be President. He is a clown.


I’ve watched most of his videos and I disagree. Like me, he didn’t like Trump before the election, and for a lot of the same reasons. But like me, he’s actually acknowledged that Trump has done a lot of good things. In my case I’ve done a 180 on trump. In his case it’s more like 100. More than 90 degrees, but he keeps a close eye on trump and is less reticent about letting trump get away with some of the stuff he says.

I don’t care about that though. I don’t care what trump says. I care about what he does. If what he says were to matter to me, I’d consider him one of the biggest clowns ever elected. But his actions are far more important and even suggest that it’s all an act. Either that or it’s the real him and he’s just learned that, thanks to his actions, he can get away with not bothering to speak well and measured.


47 posted on 06/13/2018 1:40:26 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz lol. Has one of the two best voting records in the Senate over several years and you call him a ‘liar’?

I suspect your ideological purity club only has one member.


48 posted on 06/13/2018 1:42:42 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: chris37

Not interested in this douchebag’s opinion at all.

Me neither!


49 posted on 06/13/2018 1:42:51 PM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: Wuli
We don’t think of Donald Trump as a god. He has had no help and a media hell bent on ripping him everyday. We just observe the lack of fairness given to him and his family and it makes us more defensive. He’s doing a great job. I like Shapiro for the work he’s done getting younger voters on college campuses to think differently like Charlie Kirk does. Results are all that matters and Donald Trump knows that. It looks good going into the midterms so hoping he can have more help and not have to concede much to get things like the wall built🇺🇸👍
50 posted on 06/13/2018 1:45:29 PM PDT by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: robroys woman
But like me, he’s actually acknowledged

Shapiro has only acknowledged that his pocketbook took a hit when he decided to go full on NeverTrump, calling Trump a pathological liar, calling Trump a racist and a bigot, an so on and so forth, while simultaneously holding the same positions as Trump... but for Israel and not the USA. It isn't exactly "conservative" for Shapiro to oppose the Travel Bans, to support the amnesty Republicans, while favoring mass deportations in Israel. If Shapiro was on the level, his position would be "Well, he says he supports these conservative things, but I don't think he does." But Shapiro used the language of the Left and took Leftist positions to bash Trump, while hypocritically sharing those same positions... but not for the USA.

Ben Shapiro is the pathological liar and will say or do anything to remain relevant.

51 posted on 06/13/2018 1:45:59 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: TheTimeOfMan
Cruz lol. Has one of the two best voting records

Cruz's voting record is one long list of grandstanding and accomplishing very little, while simultaneously holding one or two contrary positions at the same time and lying about his record to make it sound better. Case in point, him calling Rubio a liar for accurately pointing out that Cruz supported permanent legal status for illegal aliens in the USA, but without voting rights. Cruz supported that position after the Gang of Eight fight was over as well as up to the campaign. During the campaign, he refused to answer questions when asked, would occasionally deny he held the position, then would later go back to refusing to answer direct questions.

Cruz was a Bush-league Republican who just wanted to stand out as a "firebrand." He's only consequential in that he made lots of noise and fooled a lot of people into believing he was something other than just another huckster.

52 posted on 06/13/2018 1:49:57 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: robroys woman

****Frankly, people disagree with Shapiro on the facts at their peril****

When I saw Ben’s take on Tommy Robinson’s arrest and imprisonment, I knew he was a bought and paid for shill for the globalists.


53 posted on 06/13/2018 1:53:57 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: Wuli

I get it... But, for the first time since Reagan I believe in a president that truly has this country’s best interests in mind. Finally someone that fights back and actually makes good on promises. Just think about how high the deck has been stacked against him time and time again.


54 posted on 06/13/2018 2:00:00 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Spot on...Great posts.


55 posted on 06/13/2018 2:01:46 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: miliantnutcase

Don’t disagree. Does not change my opinion on the Korea issues. It’s not about Trump.


56 posted on 06/13/2018 2:19:07 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It’s not about what positions Ben has taken. It’s about folks that do not think Trump can make any mistake, and decry anyone who questions that North Korea, no matter what Trump wants and says, can really change.


57 posted on 06/13/2018 2:22:13 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
It’s not about what positions Ben has taken.

If it's not about the justifiable hate Ben gets, then it should probably be how over the top you are in complaining about us not agreeing with your positions. You can't call us all worshipers of Donald while simultaneously pretending to be the reasonable one.

58 posted on 06/13/2018 2:49:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DannyTN

#14 I think the Chinese leader told Kim that he would be chopped up and his kidney and liver and other parts would be sold.


59 posted on 06/13/2018 3:04:48 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: jospehm20

He is expressing the same caution that President Trump expresses. Anyone should be cautious. Reagan proceeded along the same lines and said “Trust but verify”, and he was vilified by the Deep State Republicans at the time. They bellowed this util the Wall came down.


60 posted on 06/13/2018 3:20:20 PM PDT by richardtavor
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