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Holy smoke: Jesus used cannabis oil to perform 'miracles' [?]
www.dailystar.co.uk ^ | By Tom Fish

Posted on 07/02/2018 8:05:58 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Spitzensparkin1
The author needs to back away from the bong.
61 posted on 07/02/2018 10:28:42 AM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! MAGA!)
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To: Red Badger

No.


62 posted on 07/02/2018 10:28:59 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Red Badger

Also, Saint Peter invented the lava lamp.


63 posted on 07/02/2018 10:56:48 AM PDT by matt1234 (Jan. 20, 2017: the national nightmare ended.)
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To: bubbacluck

“One toke over the line.....”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tdmaEhMHE


64 posted on 07/02/2018 10:57:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

65 posted on 07/02/2018 10:59:59 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Red Badger
Here is the formula....

Exo 30:22 Moreover the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:

Exo 30:23 "Also take for yourself quality spices--five hundred shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much sweet-smelling cinnamon (two hundred and fifty shekels), two hundred and fifty shekels of sweet-smelling cane,

Exo 30:24 five hundred shekels of cassia, according to the shekel of the sanctuary, and a hin of olive oil.

Exo 30:25 And you shall make from these a holy anointing oil, an ointment compounded according to the art of the perfumer. It shall be a holy anointing oil.

I don't see the marihuana. The lack of knowledge about the Bible is stunning for me today. Even teachers and preachers have barley even read the Word of God. It's possible that they used cannabis back then, but it's not written about in the Bible. To attempt to make a whole branch of belief try to use this as a "creed", is ridiculous. Scripture says is was OK to drink a little wine, but it's a sin to be drunk. To believe getting high on narcotics would be acceptable to God makes no sense. It's possible it has healing properties, but that needs some proof. If that was the case, taking cannabis would be the same as taking antibiotics. Jesus left the earth at 33 yo. and never mentioned cannabis as the basis for His powers. It is the same as Jesus telling the disciples, "You know that stuff in Genesis about 6 day Creation,....well, all that's a lie and you really came from monkeys." He had the chance to straighten that out but never did. God wrote on the Tablets that He created the world in 6 days. Is God a liar? He mentioned the destruction of Sodom. Did that really happen? He spoke of a worldwide Flood and Noah's Ark. Did He lie there?

It's difficult to select some things you believe, and then say something else is a lie. The New Testament refers to the OT all the time. Why would Jesus have a secret healing medicine and not tell His people? His healing powers came from the Holy Spirit, just as the Spirit "brooded" over the waters of earth to produce life, and the Spirit "hovered over Mary to produce a baby from a virgin.

I've witnessed healing's in person, and no cannabis was used. We lay on hands, and anoint with oil, and have faith. The "gifts" come from the Holy Spirit living in me. I have none. The Healer lives in us and still does the work of the Father as He always has done. The reason many don't see healing is unbelief. Many haven't been Baptized in the Holy Spirit. It's like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

The Bible is true, both OT and NT. It's all one Book. It's everything we need to serve the Father and "marry" Jesus. Many,....many,...will hear," I never knew you" if they haven't been baptized in the Holy Spirit. "Knowing" in Scripture is a sexual term. If you haven't been made "One" with the Spirit of God, you WILL NOT have power from God. If you want to hear, "Well done, good and faithful servant.", you need the power of God living in you to perform your assigned tasks to serve God. Jesus told the disciples to wait in Jerusalem until they received POWER. They had NO power without it. You must ask for and desire the gifts of the Spirit to reside in you.(Luke 11:11-13)Smoking dope doesn't do it.

66 posted on 07/02/2018 11:02:30 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Red Badger

I don’t doubt those alive in Jesus’s time used cannabis. I’m sure they used many herbs they had around them for anointing or medicine.

It’s a bit much to say the miracles came from pot. Sorry. That is a bit too far. Didn’t happen.

Herbal remedies were used by all the healers back then, and they were as common to the people as Advil or antacids are to people today. The miracles were on a much greater level.


67 posted on 07/02/2018 11:02:55 AM PDT by Yaelle
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“They had critical CO2 and butane extract processes back then?”

You don’t actually need those to make cannabis oil. The active ingredients are soluble in all sorts of more mundane solvents, like regular old ethanol. The modern processes are just improvements on the ancient methods.


68 posted on 07/02/2018 11:25:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

An ethanol extract would not separate out the various oils and resins, though. The CO2 process is “tunable” and can be very selective, this is where modern pure CBD oil comes from. Butane tends to specifically extract the THC type resins.

So yes they might have had tincture of cannabis in their apothecary, assuming they had distillation for the alcohol (or cannabis infused wine if they had no distillation), but it would contain many components.


69 posted on 07/02/2018 12:22:41 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Red Badger
As David Bienenstock points out: “Someone of the religious mindset from that time, not understanding the scientific underpinning of how or why it works, would be likely to view that as a miracle.”

There is a big difference between ignorance and rank stupidity. Not knowing exactly how medicinal plants work is an example of ignorance. The statement above by David Bienenstock is an example of rank stupidity. Just ask Galen or Hippocrates.

70 posted on 07/02/2018 12:24:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Red Badger

“”kalabos”, a common Egyptian marsh cane plant.”

Calamus acorus, sweet cane. In use today as a medicinal.


71 posted on 07/02/2018 12:25:43 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Red Badger

” a growing consensus of experts agree.”

The new standard for verified fact.


72 posted on 07/02/2018 12:28:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( Tagline disabled.)
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To: Red Badger

And then Jesus and his disciples snorted coke. /s


73 posted on 07/02/2018 12:32:03 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: pgkdan

I agree


74 posted on 07/02/2018 12:35:56 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Itching ears of the Last Days of the Church Age.


75 posted on 07/02/2018 12:36:41 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Yaelle
Herbal remedies were used by all the healers back then, and they were as common to the people as Advil or antacids are to people today.

Exactly right, Yaelle. Herbal healing had been around for thousands of years by that point in history and their capacities and limitations would have been well known. The best remedies in the most skilled hands would have still fallen well short of seeming miraculous.

The people of Jesus' time and place were far less knowledgeable than we are not dumber.

76 posted on 07/02/2018 12:37:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: DBrow; Boogieman

The best solvents for cannabis resins are fatty lipids like butter and olive oil. They had those.


77 posted on 07/02/2018 12:39:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

Exactly. And I’ve seen cannabis growing in parts of the world as literal weeds on the side of the road. No doubt it was used for whatever, commonly. Not a miracle.


78 posted on 07/02/2018 12:53:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

The oldest written record of the medicinal use of cannabis was from the Chinese Emperor Shen Nung in 2727 B.C. The oldest known human usage of cannabis comes from a hemp rope dating back to 26,900 BC which was found in Czechoslovakia in 1997.

No one had their beiber stuned by the uses of cannabis 2,000 years ago. LOL


79 posted on 07/02/2018 1:15:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Why would God, in the flesh, who created everything need this?? They perish from the lack of knowledge.

Thinking themselves wise, they became fools.

80 posted on 07/02/2018 1:49:56 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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