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To: Eagles6

I partially agree with you. Sodomites have certainly infiltrated. However the unbiblical fiat order of priestly celibacy has caused great harm to the Church. Peter, whom Roman Catholics claim as the first Pope, was married!? The Eastern Orthodox Church (Eastern Catholic), does not have a Pedophile problem. You know why? Priests are all married!


18 posted on 08/18/2018 1:40:09 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Eagles6
First, just a small correction of a factual nature: we know Peter had a mother-in-law, and therefore he had been married. Curiously, during the incident concerning the sick mother-in-law, there's no mention of the sick woman's daughter being there to care for her or being upset or concerned, or even being there to thank Jesus and to help her mother when she got up and began serving them --- and that would be Peter's wife, if she was still living.

Since there's no mention of Peter's wife anytime, anywhere, I think it's solidly probable that he was a widower.

Peter's situation as a widower is hinted at in this exchange at Mark 10:28-30

Then Peter spoke up, “We have left everything to follow you!”

“Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel, will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields ---along with persecutions---and in the age to come eternal life."

Jesus, responding to Peter's concerns, highlights how he has left 'home, brothers, sisters, mother, father, children, fields' --- but doesn't mention leaving his wife.

I don't think at that point he had a wife to leave.

Most likely he was a widower -- And there was never any problem with a widower becoming a priest, bishop or pope.


Second thing: the idea that the Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholics don't have such problems? Don't kid yourself.

I said before, and I mean it, that I refuse to dig up dirt on other denominations. It's not my place.

But Jesus said the day will come when what is hidden will be shouted from the housetops. Some of it is revealed here; all of it will be revealed hereafter. Don't be surprised.

49 posted on 08/18/2018 5:08:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His angels and in His saints.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“The Eastern Orthodox Church (Eastern Catholic), does not have a Pedophile problem. You know why? Priests are all married!”

1) Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic are two DIFFERENT sets of Churches.

2) They have a pedophile and ephebophilia problem too as my post with links elsewhere in the thread shows.

3) Not all of their priests are married.

You really can’t get much of anything right.


62 posted on 08/19/2018 6:06:28 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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