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Martina Navratilova: What Serena Got Wrong
New York Times ^ | September 10, 2018 | Martina Navratilova

Posted on 09/10/2018 5:16:48 PM PDT by EdnaMode

Serena Williams has part of it right. There is a huge double standard for women when it comes to how bad behavior is punished — and not just in tennis.

But in her protests against an umpire during the United States Open final on Saturday, she also got part of it wrong. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to apply a standard of “If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too.” Rather, I think the question we have to ask ourselves is this: What is the right way to behave to honor our sport and to respect our opponents?

To recap: The trouble began when early in the second set, Ms. Williams was given a warning for coaching. This one is on her coach: Patrick Mouratoglou was using both hands to motion to Ms. Williams to move forward and got called on it. While it is true that illegal coaching is quite common and that most coaches do it, it’s also true that despite what many commentators have said following Saturday’s events, they are called on it quite frequently and that most of the time, players just shrug it off and know that going forward, they and their coaches now need to behave, because the next infraction will cost them a point. The player is responsible for his or her coach’s conduct. And it is actually irrelevant whether the player saw or heard whatever instructions were given; either way, it is still an infraction.

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Decent article. don't agree with everything. Serena's lack of sportsmanship was unfortunate and she ruined the moment for Naomi Osaka.
1 posted on 09/10/2018 5:16:48 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode

Serena reminded me SO much of her idol Hillary Clinton. Both expected to win, both got their asses kicked, both screamed like b*tches about sexism and racism..it was like reliving the 2016 election all over again :-)


2 posted on 09/10/2018 5:23:26 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: EdnaMode
But in her protests against an umpire during the United States Open final on Saturday, she also got part of it wrong. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to apply a standard of “If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too.”

The part that I don't get in all these articles is that Williams was playing against a WOMAN. How can it be sexism? A man didn't win the match, a woman did. Whether the call was wrong or not, Williams whining and crying about sexism is complete BS.

Putting that aside, Naratilova is right -- its never a good argument to say that you should get away with something because someone else did. That's an argument made by people with no character, which describes Williams well. Another commentator called Williams a bully. That is an apt description of what she did to the young lady who won.

3 posted on 09/10/2018 5:26:31 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: EdnaMode

At least she gives a little balance to the story. Serena acted horribly.


4 posted on 09/10/2018 5:27:11 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: EdnaMode

honor and respect is not the Nike way. And she is sponsored by Nike.


5 posted on 09/10/2018 5:28:34 PM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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To: virgil

At least she gives a little balance to the story. Serena acted horribly.


Yet the Evening News portrays her as a victim of sexism. Imagine that?


6 posted on 09/10/2018 5:30:10 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: EdnaMode

Does this count as one tennis pro mansplaining to another?


7 posted on 09/10/2018 5:30:10 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: virgil

New Balance.


8 posted on 09/10/2018 5:30:49 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: rbg81

apparently all millionaire black athletes are victims I had to grab a tissue I was so upset


9 posted on 09/10/2018 5:31:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: EdnaMode
Post partum depression?
10 posted on 09/10/2018 5:33:35 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: Democrats hate too much

She is also the face of Chase, who should chase her muscular fanny off the corporate ranch.


11 posted on 09/10/2018 5:34:02 PM PDT by Migraine (<)
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To: EdnaMode

Williams problem was playing while entitled. Her bad game, cheating, and attitude finally caught up with her. Good riddance, hopefully she retires and moves on.


12 posted on 09/10/2018 5:35:16 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: rbg81

Of course, say anything about Saint Serena and be branded a racist..after all, she supports BLM, she is all for taking knees and murdering cops


13 posted on 09/10/2018 5:35:29 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: EdnaMode

At this point, Serena Williams has entered non-person territory.

You made the actual WINNER cry and not enjoy HER MOMENT, HER TIME !!! You needed to congratulate her for her FIRST major win.

Serena...you make me sick. The sight of you makes me sick because you have ZERO manners or class !!!!


14 posted on 09/10/2018 5:37:11 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: virgil

Serena couldn’t blame racism for her loss, so she used sexism as a fall back. A true champion takes responsibility for their actions.


15 posted on 09/10/2018 5:37:35 PM PDT by grania (It's Them vs Us)
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To: EdnaMode

Martina is obviously racist.


16 posted on 09/10/2018 5:38:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia. A word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons. -- Andrew Cummins)
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To: EdnaMode
I think people are ignoring the real, underlying problem. Serena sure doesn't want to talk about it.

Serena got her butt kicked in straight sets by a lady much, much younger than her. This day was inevitable. She has dominated her sport longer than any athlete I can think of in any major sport. She should not sully that achievement by whining about officiating, injecting political and social issues and denigrating the achievement of her opponent.

It happens. None of us like it, but we all age. Even Tom Brady will see his day come.

17 posted on 09/10/2018 5:39:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: EdnaMode

Williams coach admitted she was coaching through hand signals. She is a liar as well as a cheat


18 posted on 09/10/2018 5:43:24 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: EdnaMode

I prefer the way baseball umpires manage the game. Players are allowed maybe a look and an oblique mention that they saw something different, and then they are expected to move on. If they press further or use the pronoun ‘you’ with the umpire, they’re gone.


19 posted on 09/10/2018 5:43:52 PM PDT by lurk
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To: EdnaMode

I thought Navratilova would think Serena’s biggest mistake is having sex with men.


20 posted on 09/10/2018 5:44:57 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (GOP- 65 House and 12 Senate seat pickups in November)
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