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Martina Navratilova: What Serena Got Wrong
New York Times ^ | September 10, 2018 | Martina Navratilova

Posted on 09/10/2018 5:16:48 PM PDT by EdnaMode

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To: EdnaMode

yeah, the time to address an issue is AFTER and/or BEFORE a match...not in the middle of it.

Frankly, after reading what she said to the official back in 2009, I think she should have been banned from competition.

I remember a baseball player (Roberto Alomar? I think it was a catcher...) SPITTING in the face of an umpire. Why that guy was allowed to continue in the big leagues I have NO IDEA. You just DON’T abuse an official like that.

Some pitcher in the 80s for the NY Mets (Bob something or another I think...can’t remember the last name) got busted SEVERAL times for cocaine. He, too, should’ve been booted. Maybe the first time is a “I screwed up” but numerous times? The leagues shouldn’t tolerate these athletes abusing their position, bodies and the reputation of the game.

Serena should never be allowed to walk on the court.

And yes, John McEnroe should’ve been booted too. Very wrong to address officials in a nasty manner during a game.

After a game, the league ought to have ways for the players to have a grievance. I do believe officials can go overboard. But during a match, one should act like a professional—not like a four year old.


21 posted on 09/10/2018 5:46:28 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: colorado tanker

Someone in Serena’s sport tend to age a lot faster, the body can only take so much then it just starts to tire out on you!!!


22 posted on 09/10/2018 5:47:36 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: colorado tanker

Just had a very liberal coworker tell me that it was racist and sexist because they (the ref I guess) did not like black women who are mothers getting help from a coach.

When I pointed out the rules (no coaching during play) he said “That is racist”.

So I just gave up.


23 posted on 09/10/2018 5:50:15 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: EdnaMode

Sports simply are no fun to watch anymore.


24 posted on 09/10/2018 5:50:32 PM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
She didn't complain in a coherent manner, she threatened the umpire (that he'd never be on another one of her courts, guess she's part owner now?), and, more to the point, it isn't the first time she's acted the fool at the US Open, (and has been assessed fines before), it isn't the first time she's acted the fool in other tournaments. She's just an a-hole.

25 posted on 09/10/2018 5:56:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: redgolum

You’re joking.


26 posted on 09/10/2018 5:58:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: EdnaMode

Let Williams rage


27 posted on 09/10/2018 6:03:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: EdnaMode

This is a very fair and reasonable assessment.


28 posted on 09/10/2018 6:04:08 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: EdnaMode
Martina may be a lesbian, but she never used it as a political weapon against others like the radicals today do. She always approached other players in a fair manner. When she thought the press was treating McEnroe unfairly at one point, she said during an interview that he was a “sweetheart” on live TV and said he was her friend.

Martina’s fair take on William’s behavior (in The NY Times no less) is a stake to the heart of William’s attempts to make this about race, or feminism, or motherhood, or take your pick.

29 posted on 09/10/2018 6:04:21 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Fair Paul
I quit watching when players began grunting with every stroke. It's been a long while.....do they still do that ?
30 posted on 09/10/2018 6:06:48 PM PDT by chiller (Race is irrelevant in these United States; just shades of skin color)
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To: EdnaMode
Why don't the pro tennis organizations just make one simple change and be done with it:

Only women are allowed to officiate at women's tennis matches.

There are two things Navratilova overlooked here, and since she was writing this in the NYT instead of a sports publication I'll cut her some slack:

1. Serena Williams has a habit of throwing these tantrums when she's losing a match. She came into this tournament overweight and out of shape, and by the time she reached the finals she was clearly out of gas. Whenever she performs badly on the court she goes into these childish rants to accomplish two things: (A) get herself a break in the action to catch her wind, and (B) pretend she's losing for reasons that have nothing to do with her own miserable performance.

2. I'm going to go with "'Roid Rage" for $400, Alex.

31 posted on 09/10/2018 6:13:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: MuttTheHoople
Sex with who? Serena Williams? A man had sex with that brick sh!thouse?

That’s disgusting

32 posted on 09/10/2018 6:13:40 PM PDT by atc23 (M*NKEY - there, I said it!)
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To: EdnaMode

At least Venus had more class when her day in the sun was over.


33 posted on 09/10/2018 6:14:29 PM PDT by Bommer (Help out 2ndDivisionVet and his wife - https://www.gofundme.com/married-recent-amputees)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

perfect analogy


34 posted on 09/10/2018 6:16:46 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Fair Paul

no kidding...its funner to read comments right here


35 posted on 09/10/2018 6:17:47 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: chiller
Most do - there was one women's match I saw with a really bad offender (can't remember if it was Sharapova, I think she's the worst), but anyway her opponent was playing well and completely silent on her strokes. It was a ridiculous contrast.
I think they tried making a rule in the past and it didn't last, apparently.
Somebody needs to ask the women why they grunt louder than the men, yet none of them could beat a top 100 men's player.
36 posted on 09/10/2018 6:21:19 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The claim is that the rules on interchanges between player and official are applied unevenly between men and women’s matches. I have no idea if the charge is fair or not.


37 posted on 09/10/2018 6:45:21 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: EdnaMode
But in her protests against an umpire during the United States Open final on Saturday, she also got part of it wrong. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to apply a standard of “If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too.”

Well, yeah - the answer to this is not to have women stooping to the long-ago antics of John McEnroe. The answer is to hold men and women to the same strict standards of professionalism and decorum now.
38 posted on 09/10/2018 7:04:32 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SoCal Pubbie

9 Sept: Spectator: Serena Williams isn’t the victim of sexism – she’s just a sore loser
by Freddy Gray
Serena Williams’s epic tantrum in last night’s US Open final wasn’t a noble stand against racism or sexism. It wasn’t about her being black, or a woman, or a mother — although of course it very quickly became about that, as tweeters and sports hacks climbed over each other to defend the Queen of Women’s tennis because she is a famous mega brand and her brand is about being black, a woman, and a mother.

But in our hearts we all know what really happened. Williams behaved like a bad loser then pretended to be a victim of societal injustice to justify her bratty performance. It was a pathetic and depressing spectacle. The most depressing and pathetic part was that the New York crowd — so keen to see their heroine win — indulged and encouraged her self-pitying, whining, angry display. The fans cheered her on as she berated the umpire Carlos Ramos. His sin? Having the temerity to try to do his job...

Serena Williams can lose without behaving like diva brat, but sometimes she can’t, and when she loses her temper she is a fairly awful human being. She tried to have it both ways too — bigging up her opponent, saying her row shouldn’t distract from Naomi Osaka’s achievement. Her admirers said that showed amazing grace. But it didn’t. Amazing grace would have been not to turn the whole match into a spectacle of her self-importance...
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/serena-williams-isnt-the-victim-of-sexism-shes-just-a-sore-loser/


39 posted on 09/10/2018 7:05:42 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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40 posted on 09/10/2018 7:12:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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