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What's the Best Book to Read on Augusto Pinochet?

Posted on 10/27/2018 8:45:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

Most are left-leaning, blaming the US for thousands of deaths. As I understand it he SAVED the country. I remember a Buchanan quote on McGlocklin: "Those that were killed should have been killed." Mean-but true? It's got me thinking. SO tell me which one is evenhanded and credits the man for Chile's success today.


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1 posted on 10/27/2018 8:45:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Jiminy Cricket let Pinocchio down.


2 posted on 10/27/2018 8:49:21 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Don’t know about any books. He stopped the communist takeover of Chile dead in its tracke and secured freedom in the country for a couple of generations.


3 posted on 10/27/2018 8:49:23 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1
Don’t know about any books. He stopped the communist takeover of Chile dead in its tracke and secured freedom in the country for a couple of generations.

Therefore, the Left never forgave him.


4 posted on 10/27/2018 8:51:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Pinochet saved Chile. It is the most free and most prosperous country in the southern hemisphere. He is the only dictator ever to voluntarily step down once his work was done.

Similarly, Fujimori saved Peru. Whatever his defects, he stepped up when all was lost, and turned the tide of battle at a time when the central government had lost complete control of the country outside Lima, and the guerrillas were advancing into Lima. No one else was prepared to do what he did.

Once it was safe for a return to normal governance, lesser men stepped up to accuse him, and he was driven into exile and later into prison. But Peru is what it is today thanks to him.


5 posted on 10/27/2018 8:51:42 AM PDT by marron
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And ditto for Franco. (and please, no lame Chevy Chase jokes).


6 posted on 10/27/2018 8:52:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marron

Some 1500 libs got a one way plane trip and Chile did not become Venezuela. China decided to end opiate addiction by making it a capital crime. They only had to execute about 500 to shut opium down.


7 posted on 10/27/2018 8:54:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: dfwgator

I’m looking for similarities the left is going to try to paint Trump with. Hitler won’t work. They will settle for Pinochet without the deaths but that won’t stop them. Something tells me in an ideal world you wouldn’t need a Pinochet but without them the whole world would go to hell in a hand basket. Is Trump Caesar? Could be. Pinochet is another example of the times producing such leaders.


8 posted on 10/27/2018 8:57:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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A Democrat acquaintance of mine recently visited Spain. He was shocked to find good respectable people defending Franco. Americans have trouble understanding what the war was really about. The older ones picture “For Whom the Bell Tolls” and the younger ones just know lame Chevy Chase jokes. And the really young ones don’t even know that.

If you’ve read Orwell’s “Homage to Catalonia” its not such a mystery. But history is taught, when its taught at all, in the most cartoonish way.


9 posted on 10/27/2018 8:58:44 AM PDT by marron
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To: DIRTYSECRET
I remember a Buchanan quote on McGlocklin

I didn't realize Pat ever mentioned him.


10 posted on 10/27/2018 9:01:18 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: marron

I was going to say, Chile and Peru are all there is of sensibility in SA.

Let is tally the spreadsheet:

Liberal ****hole

Free prosperity and trade with strong laws

Column B please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeWm7QxXLPE


11 posted on 10/27/2018 9:02:17 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marron

-—and in the voting that removed Gen. Pinochet from office, he received a higher percentage of votes than Allende’ did when he (Allende’) assumed the presidency-—


12 posted on 10/27/2018 9:09:50 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

https://www.hoover.org/research/what-pinochet-did-chile

A starting point. My guess is balanced analysis of Pinochet will come from contemporaries at the Hoover Institution and U Chicago. Both were involved in righting the economy down there.


13 posted on 10/27/2018 9:42:44 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -ntnt- David Burge.)
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To: marron

Did Pinochet and Fujimori follow the example of Cincinnatus?


14 posted on 10/27/2018 9:54:40 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Nuc 1.1

Yeah, really when you think about it he’s a lot like George Washington. And everyone who murdered was almost certainly guilty of something. That’s why he didn’t even hide what he was doing. Father of his country.


15 posted on 10/27/2018 10:53:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

We’ll shoot, now I’m having a hard time finding that link. I know I heard somewhere that George Washington just sneaked around and mass murdered a few thousand political opponents and journalists who wrote Tory opinion pieces. Then he had them sailed out into the Atlantic and threw them off in the ocean to drown. I’ll post it if I can find it. It must be somewhere.


16 posted on 10/27/2018 11:01:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

There is a book called IIRC “What REALLY happened on September 10, 1973” but I believe it is only in Spanish. It was a newspaper book, meaning that you bought the newspaper and they gave you a cheaply printed book. Usually it was some sort of classic novel or a school requirement book.


17 posted on 10/27/2018 11:02:11 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: ameribbean expat

The best is “Out of the Ashes - Life, death, and transfiguration of democracy in Chile 1833-1988” by James
Whelan.

Out of print, exceptionally difficult to find. Got mine on e-bay five years ago for almost $300. Big book, 1000+ pages. Heavily annotated, primary sources.
Google the author.

Will lend to a responsible individual.


18 posted on 10/27/2018 12:10:06 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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bttt


19 posted on 10/27/2018 1:36:55 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: DesertRhino

Agreed!


20 posted on 10/27/2018 3:40:00 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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