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The Indians of the Ecuadorian Amazon were using cocoa 5,300 years ago
EurekAlert! ^ | October 30, 2018 | presse@cirad.fr

Posted on 11/02/2018 11:06:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Traces of cocoa dating back 5300 years have been found in ancient pots in the Ecuadorian Amazon. This is the oldest proof of cocoa use ever found. It predates the domestication of cocoa by the Olmec and the Maya in Central America by some 1500 years.

This evidence was collected in the southern Ecuadorian Amazon, at the Santa Ana La Florida (SALF) archaeological site near Palanda, discovered 16 years ago by the archaeologist Francisco Valdez and his Franco-Ecuadorian team (IRD/INPC) (2). The Mayo Chinchipe, the oldest known Amerindian civilization in the upper Amazon, had consumed cocoa almost continuously from at least 5300 years to 2100 years before present. Traces of houses and of a ceremonial site remain.

"Evidence of cocoa use was found by analysing the starch grains characteristic of the genus Theobroma, traces of theobromine, a biochemical compound specific to mature cocoa beans, and ancient cocoa DNA found in ceramic vessels, some of which dated back more than 5300 years" , says Claire Lanaud, a geneticist from CIRAD specializing in cocoa, who is one of the lead authors of the study. "The vessels came from tombs or domestic settings; they clearly showed that cocoa was used both as a funerary offering and for daily consumption."

...The presence of seashells, such as spondylus and strombus, from the Pacific coast, at the archaeological site demonstrates that there were communication links between the peoples of the Pacific coast and those of the Amazon, such as the Mayo Chinchipe. "This latter group may therefore have played a major role in domesticating cocoa in general and the Nacional variety in particular."

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; cacao; chocolate; cocoa; dietandcuisine; ecuador; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers
Cradle of Chocolate?
by Roger Segelken
October 8, 1998
[snip] Digging through history to a time before agriculture, archaeologists from Cornell University and the University of California at Berkeley have found evidence of a village that was continuously occupied from 2000 B.C. to A.D. 1000 as well as hints to the secret of the community's remarkable longevity.

"My guess is, it all comes down to chocolate," says John S. Henderson, professor of anthropology at Cornell and co-director, together with Rosemary Joyce of Berkeley, of the archaeological dig at Puerto Escondido, Honduras. The type of ceremonial pottery uncovered by the archaeologists points to that region of Mesoamerica as a possible "Cradle of Chocolate." [/snip]

1 posted on 11/02/2018 11:06:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/02/2018 11:06:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Sweet discovery: New UBC study pushes back the origins of chocolate
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-10/uobc-sdn102618.php


3 posted on 11/02/2018 11:07:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

Por supuesto!


4 posted on 11/03/2018 1:12:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, if I find chocolate, I’m probably not going anywhere.


5 posted on 11/03/2018 1:14:53 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

The chocolate we consume is heavily laced with sugars that are added to overcome its bitter taste. Is this a recent recipe or has sugar been used continuously with cocoa?


6 posted on 11/03/2018 2:03:11 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The earliest cultivation of cacao can be traced to ancient Mesoamerica, in which it served a religious, financial, and nutritional purpose.

The drink that was made with cacao, xocolātl, wasconsidered sacred by the Mesoamericans and used during initiation ceremonies, funerals, and marriages. Cacao beans were also used as currency. Because cacao was both currency and food, drinking chocolate was like sipping on cash — kind of like lighting your cigar with a hundred dollar bill – and for this reason was a privilege mainly limited to elites. More:

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/the-surprisingly-manly-history-of-hot-cocoa/

7 posted on 11/03/2018 2:17:12 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalism’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

8 posted on 11/03/2018 3:42:22 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SunkenCiv

Um, I originally misread the headline, didn’t notice the “o” in “cocoa”. This is a MUCH different article than I expected.


9 posted on 11/03/2018 5:05:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Bitter. It wasn’t sweetened until it got to Europe.


10 posted on 11/03/2018 7:22:25 AM PDT by null and void (Don't argue with the keyboard warriors. They know their delusions better than you.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Europeans added sugar to make the modern chocolate. Sugar is an old world entity. The ancient MesoAmericans did not have sugar, which was imported by the Portuguese to the Americas after Columbus.


11 posted on 11/03/2018 8:00:18 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

Perhaps sugar from cane was missing. Agave nectar, Yacón syrup, and Stevia leaves are sweeteners sourced from the Americas.


12 posted on 11/03/2018 9:52:20 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: null and void

Aztecs and Mayas kept stingless bees in hives before the Spanish arrived. They produce a sweeter honey than European bees but not in a comb and not as abundantly.


13 posted on 11/03/2018 9:59:33 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Th honey and wax made by stingless bees was traded for cocoa beans in some societies...

https://www.thoughtco.com/ancient-maya-beekeeping-169364


14 posted on 11/03/2018 10:04:36 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: nwrep

The Mayans also had vanilla... which is the “bean” pod of an orchid native to the Americas.


15 posted on 11/03/2018 10:14:06 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: antidisestablishment

Apparently you didn’t read the article.


16 posted on 11/04/2018 1:09:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
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17 posted on 11/04/2018 1:15:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

And break the tradition of FR?


18 posted on 11/04/2018 5:53:18 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalism’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: SunkenCiv

Actually, I did. My excerpt was bad, but I put the link in for how cocoa wasn’t always sweetened. Apparently, I’m a psychopath according to other articles because I don’t use cream and sugar in everything. I do like dark chocolate and non-Dutch cocoa with chili. There’s something magic about that combo.


19 posted on 11/04/2018 6:00:13 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalism’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: antidisestablishment
You didn't notice that the whole point of the article wasn't psychopathy, but rather that the domestication of cocoa is from South America, not MesoAmerica as you stated, and 1500 years earlier?

20 posted on 11/05/2018 2:03:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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