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Can Venus Teach Us to Take Climate Change Seriously? (Venus CO2 96.5%, Earth CO2 0.03%!)
Space.com ^ | Nov 29, 2018 | Meghan Bartels, Space.com Senior Writer

Posted on 12/02/2018 10:29:53 AM PST by ETL

If human-induced climate change continues unchecked, 10 percent of the U.S. economy could evaporate by 2100, a 1,656-page federal report the White House slipped out on Black Friday (Nov. 23) warned — but a nearby world has an even hotter climate problem than ours, and scientists say we could learn some valuable lessons from it.

That world is Venus, Earth's "evil twin," which was once nice enough — until something went wrong and the atmosphere began trapping a little too much heat. Scientists aren't positive precisely how events played out, but the runaway greenhouse effect that resulted is beyond debate: Venus now clocks in at a staggering 880 degrees Fahrenheit (471 degrees Celsius).

"I think Venus is an important warning: Greenhouse atmospheres are not theoretical," Ellen Stofan, director of the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum and former chief scientist at NASA, told Space.com. And in fact, Venus has already warned us about a climate threat —

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True CO2 exists in the atmospheres of both Earth and Venus. But on Venus it comprises a whopping 96+ percent of the atmosphere. On Earth, a measly 0.03%!

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Composition of Venus' atmosphere (CO2=96.5% vs 0.03% for Earth!)

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1 posted on 12/02/2018 10:29:53 AM PST by ETL
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To: ETL

Venus is also closer to the Sun and has a higher density atmosphere, and has virtually no water.


2 posted on 12/02/2018 10:33:38 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

And its day is longer than its year: 243 vs 225.

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/all-about-venus/en/


3 posted on 12/02/2018 10:36:30 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Why don’t they ask the Venusians?


4 posted on 12/02/2018 10:36:44 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: ETL

Any trees on Venus?
Any liquid water?

STFU.


5 posted on 12/02/2018 10:37:15 AM PST by fruser1
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To: ETL

Scientists should plant more trees on Venus. That would help. /s


6 posted on 12/02/2018 10:39:23 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: ETL

Are they really, really stupid? Or do they think everyone else is this plug-ugly dumb?


7 posted on 12/02/2018 10:40:50 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: ETL
Could this be Venus Envy?
8 posted on 12/02/2018 10:40:53 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops!)
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To: ETL

At the same pressure levels of the atmosphere, it is at the same temperature relative to its distance from the sun.

It’s not greenhouse gasses. It’s gasses.


9 posted on 12/02/2018 10:41:35 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ETL

And Mars is about 95% CO2. How’s that working for global warming there? How can these “scientists” pull out one fact like atmosphere composition and make a direct link to this planets global warming?


10 posted on 12/02/2018 10:42:44 AM PST by sox_the_cat
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Quick Venus Facts

Venus does not have any moons or rings.
Venus is nearly as big as the Earth with a diameter of 12,104 km.
Venus is thought to be made up of a central iron core, rocky mantle and silicate crust.
A day on the surface of Venus (solar day) would appear to take 117 Earth days.
A year on Venus takes 225 Earth days.
The surface temperature on Venus can reach 471 °C.

Detailed Venus Facts

A day on Venus lasts longer than a year.

It takes 243 Earth days to rotate once on its axis (sidereal day). The planet’s orbit around the Sun takes 225 Earth days, compared to the Earth’s 365.

A day on the surface of Venus (solar day) takes 117 Earth days.

Venus rotates in the opposite direction to most other planets.

This means that Venus is rotating in the opposite direction to the Sun, this is also know as a retrograde rotation. A possible reason might be a collision in the past with an asteroid or other object that caused the planet to alter its rotational path. It also differs from most other planets in our solar system by having no natural satellites.

Venus is the second brightest object in the night sky.

Only the Moon is brighter. With a magnitude of between -3.8 to -4.6 Venus is so bright it can be seen during daytime on a clear day.

Atmospheric pressure on Venus is 92 times greater than the Earth’s.

While its size and mass are similar to Earth, the small asteroids are crushed when entering its atmosphere, meaning no small craters lie on the surface of the planet. The pressure felt by a human on the surface would be equivalent to that experienced deep beneath the sea on Earth.

Venus is often called the Earth’s sister planet.

The Earth and Venus are very similar in size with only a 638 km difference in diameter, Venus having 81.5% of the Earth’s mass. Both also have a central core, a molten mantle and a crust.

Venus is also known as the Morning Star and the Evening Star.

Early civilisations thought Venus was two different bodies, called Phosphorus and Hesperus by the Greeks, and Lucifer and Vesper by the Romans. This is because when its orbit around the Sun overtakes Earth’s orbit, it changes from being visible after sunset to being visible before sunrise. Mayan astronomers made detailed observations of Venus as early as 650 AD.

Venus is the hottest planet in our solar system.

The average surface temperature is 462 °C, and because Venus does not tilt on its axis, there is no seasonal variation. The dense atmosphere of around 96.5 percent carbon dioxide traps heat and causes a greenhouse effect.

A detailed study of Venus finished in 2015.

In 2006, the Venus Express space craft was sent into orbit around Venus by the European Space Agency, and sent back information about the planet.

Originally planned to last five hundred Earth days, the mission was extended several times before the craft was finally deorbited in 2015. More than 1,000 volcanoes or volcanic centres larger than 20 km have been found on the surface of Venus.

The Russians sent the first mission to Venus.

The Venera 1 space probe was launched in 1961, but lost contact with base. The USA also lost their first probe to Venus, Mariner 1, although Mariner 2 was able to take measurements of the planet in 1962. The Soviet Union’s Venera 3 was the first man-made craft to land on Venus in 1966.

At one point it was thought Venus might be a tropical paradise.

The dense clouds of sulphuric acid surrounding Venus make it impossible to view its surface from outside its atmosphere. It was only when radio mapping was developed in the 1960s that scientists were able to observe and measure the extreme temperatures and hostile environment.

It is thought Venus did once have oceans but these evaporated as the planets temperature increased.

https://space-facts.com/venus/


11 posted on 12/02/2018 10:42:54 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: mass55th
Good idea. I'll ask this Venusian:

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12 posted on 12/02/2018 10:44:56 AM PST by John Locke
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Uranus tells us a lot about gloBULL warming.
13 posted on 12/02/2018 10:45:01 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ETL

The Martian atmosphere is 96% CO2, but its temperature can get as low as -200 degrees F.


14 posted on 12/02/2018 10:46:00 AM PST by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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And Mars is about 95% CO2. How’s that working for global warming there?

Mars' atmosphere is very thin.

15 posted on 12/02/2018 10:46:13 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Men are from Mars, woman are from Venus, climate wackos are from Pluto (still a planet).


16 posted on 12/02/2018 10:49:01 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Morpheus2009
That world is Venus, Earth's "evil twin," which was once nice enough — until something went wrong and the atmosphere began trapping a little too much heat. Scientists aren't positive precisely how events played out,

Fake News. Venus' lack of a meaningful magnetic field left Venus pretty much defenseless against the Solar wind. Most people believe that is what turned Venus into the hellhole that is is.

Unless syrafoam cups or plastic straws will cause the Earth's magnetic field to collapse, there isn't too much to this article.

17 posted on 12/02/2018 10:49:44 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: hal ogen

That’s where GoreBull warming comes from.


18 posted on 12/02/2018 10:50:37 AM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: Huskrrrr
Men are from Mars, women are from Venus, transgender-wannabe males are from Uranus

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19 posted on 12/02/2018 10:52:57 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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This article is emblematic of how unscientific climate “science” is.


20 posted on 12/02/2018 10:56:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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