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John Kelly Confirms He Was Lying All Along: The White House Is in Chaos
Rolling Stone ^ | DECEMBER 30, 2018 1:10PM ET | Peter Wade

Posted on 12/30/2018 11:36:00 PM PST by brent1a

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To: Nifster

So, when every person leaves a place of employment says the same thing, over and over, do they ALL have an axe to grind?

At what point do people start listening and start trying to stabilize the environment?

I appreciate Trump is a disrupter. But disrupters are hell on establishment structures.

I think Trump needs to stop kissing up to Generals and start bringing in business people.


41 posted on 12/31/2018 3:06:39 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: brent1a

One man’s chaos is another man’s well oiled machine.


42 posted on 12/31/2018 3:29:06 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Fai Mao

Chaos good or chaos bad? In regards to one’s perspective, of course, but there is all sorts of entropy going on at any given moment in any organizational chart. Some parts are building up in both size and strength, while others are atrophying and collapsing, a necessary adjunct to changing demands of the moment.

John Kelly happened to be at the one juncture where there may have been some withering, more noticeable to himself than perhaps to others. The strategy of chess is not necessarily well known to the pawns.


43 posted on 12/31/2018 3:39:33 AM PST by alloysteel (Man does not live by bread alone. He needs chocolate cake too.)
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To: Moonman62

So? Proves my point

Aren’t we lucky to have St. Kelly protecting us?


44 posted on 12/31/2018 3:46:07 AM PST by Nifster (II see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: caww

I believe you and I may agree. My suspicion is that the rigid Mr Jelly thinks anything not by the book is chaos.


45 posted on 12/31/2018 3:48:07 AM PST by Nifster (II see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: brent1a

Chaos: When the Master of the house insists that the staff do the damn job they are getting paid to do....


46 posted on 12/31/2018 3:48:25 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: 9YearLurker

Agreed. Like a pack of hyenas


47 posted on 12/31/2018 3:48:41 AM PST by Nifster (II see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: brent1a

I doubt it; real chaos was when the Clintons took over as related in “Unlimited Access,” by Gary Aldrich. Even though Presidents have been stupid in many ways since then, they all at least ran professional White Houses. Nobody has topped the wacky Clintons.


48 posted on 12/31/2018 3:49:11 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Sometimes yes. If it is the same type of person.

Do you actually think Trump is stupid and not capable for the presidency. That’s what these tons are saying. Not a one of them was onboard with Trump’ Agenda

Note Zinke, Price, and Sessipns have not said a word about chaos in the WH

He has brought in business people. Not all were on board , eg Tillerson


49 posted on 12/31/2018 3:53:13 AM PST by Nifster (II see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: tired&retired
Change is chaos for those who hold on to the old Obama ideology.

Not just for the old Obama ideology, but for all politicians, including the perfumed princes of the military.

Nothing is to get done except at a glacial pace to create the sense of complexity and to cement sinecures for as many politicians and Generals as possible.

If things were done quickly then the citizens would understand that a vast majority of what we have "running" our country is nothing but overhead and could be eliminated.

50 posted on 12/31/2018 3:53:35 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: crazyhorse691
Shocked ! Shocked, I tell 'ya !

It isn’t chaos if somebody is in control..

Bingo. Further, when everyone opposes your vision chaos is the best and perhaps only way to beat 'em. To cede to the traditional order is to fail.

51 posted on 12/31/2018 3:56:45 AM PST by chiller (Dem's ideals are beautiful...they just never work in a real world. Feel good, OR do the right thing.)
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To: brent1a

Wait. Wasn’t he chief of staff? If it’s chaos, that would mean he has been doing a lousy job. That’s like a captain complaining about his ship not passing inspection.


52 posted on 12/31/2018 3:58:05 AM PST by lurk
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To: Moonman62
Here’s the original biased report of the phone interview with very few actual quotes from Kelly. It’s mostly editorializing and quotes from other people, like Dianne Feinstein.

That is what I suspected; the drama on FR is predictable though; the MSM triggers folks to turn on each other.
53 posted on 12/31/2018 4:04:01 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Fai Mao
Even if true, why is chaos bad?

Yeah really. Even if true - and what is the definition of chaos? - what difference does it make?

54 posted on 12/31/2018 4:11:51 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: BinaryBoy

“Trump’s biggest flaw is his complete inability to hire and fire the right people.”

And during the campaign he was misrepresented — or we chose to believe — as someone who had the uncanny and almost magical sixth sense to size up people at first glance. I can understand the first round of scumbags like Ryan’s BFF since grade school Priebus, Sessions, etc. This was PDJT’s forst “rodeo” in DC and he trusted Deep State advice.

After a year, though, there should’ve been a correction. Some are wonderful, but so many are horrid. And it’s possible there are ZERO honorable people in DC from whom to choose. Kelly was a bust. I had a hinky feeling about Kavanaugh LONG before the hearings started, and he has not supported PDJT or the Constitution well. Trump worshipped him — his “high intellect”. There’s more to being SCOTUS than intellect.

You’re right; random people off the street might be more loyal.


55 posted on 12/31/2018 4:17:52 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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To: brent1a

Like I trust Rolling Stone ragazine to give me an objective take.


56 posted on 12/31/2018 4:18:43 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: brent1a

Like I trust Rolling Stone ragazine to give me an objective take.


57 posted on 12/31/2018 4:18:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: brent1a

“’zero-tolerance’ family separation”

Oh, the one that was used all the time under Obama, but nodody cared? THAT family seperation?


58 posted on 12/31/2018 4:20:40 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I'll wait for the retraction...


59 posted on 12/31/2018 4:32:55 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Fai Mao

Yeah, when I read Kelly’s actual quotes the LA Times interview, it didn’t seem that bad. This Rolling Stone article and other MSM writeups about this are simply more Pravda-like propaganda.

Possible that Kelly may have had an old boomers’ view that such an interview with the MSM would help him set the record straight.


60 posted on 12/31/2018 4:47:43 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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