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What could the Pentagon do with a jet bike?
www.c4isrnet.com ^ | 03-13-2019 | By: Kelsey D. Atherton

Posted on 03/13/2019 10:31:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

"Why risk a helicopter and crew when it is possible to insert operators by swarm?" JetPack Aviation asks, using this concept art to illustrate just such an insertion. (JetPack Aviation)

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The 20th century was rough on cavalry. While the age of battlefield dominance by horse-borne fighters had long since passed, scouting and charging from horseback remained a part of warfare, especially irregular warfare; that is until trenches, barbed wire, machine guns and armored vehicles rendered that use for horses mostly irrelevant.

Cavalry regiments traded in their mounts for armored vehicles, and for the most part the dream of nimble fast scouts or special forces traveling close to the ground was left to motorcycles, if anything.

But what if, instead of a familiar style of vehicle that can run on fuel found most anywhere, there was a new kind of flying machine, specifically targeted at the military? What if it was a jet bike?

That’s the bold promise from JetPack Aviation, a startup that launched preorders for recreational versions of a flying personal vehicle in March 2019.

The preorder form states that only 20 of the vehicles will be sold on the recreational market, with production beyond that dedicated to military and government customers. The company prices its vehicles at $380,000 each, with a preorder buy-in of $10,000. The preorder page, which autoplays a video of a computer rendering of the speeder, does not indicate whether a prototype model of the aircraft has ever flown. It notes, instead, that “the Speeder is not yet a type certified aircraft. It will initially operate in the Ultralight and Experimental categories.”

Jetpack Aviation has previously made a flying machine, though as the company name suggests, that one is a jetpack. In November 2015, the company released a video of a jetpack flight around Ellis Island. Of the 38 videos on JetPack Aviation’s YouTube page, the Speeder is featured in just one. The company listed the Ellis Island jetpack as having a top speed of 100 mph, a maximum altitude of 10,000 feet and a total flight time of 10 minutes.

With the Speeder, the company has upped the numbers on all categories. With four engines (five in the military version) powered by kerosene or diesel, the Speeder is listed as having a top speed that exceeds 150 mph, a ceiling of more than 15,000 feet and a flight time of 20 minutes.

The specifications for the military concept expand the flight time to possibly 30 minutes, and include the option to fly autonomously. The military model, as sketched out, would also be able to use Jet A fuel.

Speeders will announce their presence with all the subtlety and volume of an ambulance siren, thanks to a sound profile estimated at 120 decibels while flying at or below 10 feet.

On noisy, crowded battlefields, that’s less of a concern than for a unit attempting to move discreetly, but it still necessitates the trade-off between using hearing protection and being able to communicate with the rest of the unit. (For one point of comparison, as recently as 2017, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency explored a hybrid electric motorcycle for special operations forces that was 75 decibels on fuel, 55 on electric, and was built on an existing motorcycle that retailed at about $15,000).

Loud and short flights drastically limit what military roles could be performed by those riding Speeders. Flying 50 miles in 20 minutes is impressive, but less so when the vehicle must refuel at the other end. It’s a fun concept, though the utility is somewhat harder to fathom.

Autonomous resupply is the far likelier use for a Speeder. The maximum weight capacity of the concept vehicle is 250 pounds, including pilot, so think more super-fast mule than futuristic scouts or Speeder-mounted cavalry.

If it’s underwhelming to remove a military hoverbike from Star Wars-esque pursuit scenes and use it for practical and mundane logistical work, know that it’s also not unique. That’s the same path followed by Malloy Aeronautics, a company that made a personal transportation prototype aimed it at the commercial market, but then attracted military attention with a fanciful flying motorcycle, only to see it pursued primarily as battlefield resupply.

As the Joint Tactical Aerial Resupply Vehicle, the Malloy Aeronautics hoverbike is aimed at autonomously carrying between 300 and 600 pounds at 60 mph with a run time of 90 minutes and an operational range of 70 miles. Battlefield resupply is the use case, second only to medical evacuation, where the quick transport of small payloads is of tremendous importance.

To the extent that military development of the Malloy hoverbike provides a way to get blood, bullets and food to troops otherwise unable to resupply, a Speeder-like jet bike that can do some of the same mission but faster could carve a niche within the niche.

The limitation of a 25-mile range for return trips can be offset somewhat by delivery just 10 minutes after launch. A one-way mission to get supplies or a medic to troops 50 miles away, with the understanding that the Speeder will be abandoned and scrapped if it cannot be refueled in place, could be an option commanders like having on hand, though perhaps not ideal at a mid-six-figures price point.

For the Speeder to reach that niche within a niche, it will need more than the kind of flashy concept videos that woo Silicon Valley investors. It will take working prototypes, a clear statement of the mission and use case, and a willingness to go through a longer military evaluation process should armed services show interest. There is no amount of speed that can bypass a narrow range of usefulness.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bike; jet; jetbike; motorcycle; smellofnapalminam
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I WANT ONE!!!!!!............................
1 posted on 03/13/2019 10:31:41 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: martin_fierro

Motorcycle ping!.....................


2 posted on 03/13/2019 10:32:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Megaforce tried them in the 80s.


3 posted on 03/13/2019 10:34:13 AM PDT by wally_bert (You're bringing The Monk down, man!)
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To: Red Badger

They need to make sure Chuck Norris is driving it.


4 posted on 03/13/2019 10:36:42 AM PDT by Migraine
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[ What could the Pentagon do with a jet bike? ]

I think they had these in “The Island”.


5 posted on 03/13/2019 10:36:46 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: wally_bert

Battlestar Galactica had them in the late 70’s...................


6 posted on 03/13/2019 10:37:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: SaveFerris

That one had wheels...................


7 posted on 03/13/2019 10:37:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

I thought they were flying at some point, though.

I’ll have to watch it again.


8 posted on 03/13/2019 10:39:12 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

Only $380K a pop. Sold-out in no time.

.. a top speed of 100 mph, a maximum altitude of 10,000 feet and a total flight time of 10 minutes.


hopes it includes a hefty life insurance policy, splints and squeegies.


9 posted on 03/13/2019 10:40:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: SaveFerris

If that’s the movie about the clones, they had wheels, IIRC...............


10 posted on 03/13/2019 10:41:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

11 posted on 03/13/2019 10:41:32 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: NormsRevenge

And a parachute.................


12 posted on 03/13/2019 10:41:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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“I WANT ONE!!!!!!............................ “

Hmmm, jet bike?...or...new snow blower?


13 posted on 03/13/2019 10:42:39 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I hate baby killing pedophile socialist gun grabbers)
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To: Hatteras

That’s Star Wars?..................


14 posted on 03/13/2019 10:43:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

I live in Florida.

I don’t even know what a snow blower looks like!.................


15 posted on 03/13/2019 10:44:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Galactica 1980 certainly did.

No one acknowledges the show even ran.


16 posted on 03/13/2019 10:44:12 AM PDT by wally_bert (You're bringing The Monk down, man!)
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To: Red Badger

Well, you could shoot them down with WWII AAA with optical sights.

No radar or missiles needed.

Then there’s the question of range, and how to get out of what you got into.


17 posted on 03/13/2019 10:44:37 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Red Badger

I can only imagine what a bunch of 20 year old new warrant officers would do with this!!


18 posted on 03/13/2019 10:45:07 AM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal)
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To: Red Badger

No obvious wheels - skids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-J6bPbjkdM


19 posted on 03/13/2019 10:45:37 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds cool. I could also see the answer to the problem being let the JTARV carry the fuel forward so that the Jetbike can do the full 50 miles. Jetbike on scene first and able to bring Ammo, Food, possibly reinforcements. JTARV is fast follower with heavier replenishments and fuel. As with all tech, getting it built initially is the game changer. Time will improve speed, distance, payload. Would be really cool when a platform like this could carry say … a pilot and 2 mounted RPGs and function like a super small A10 in a confined battlefield. I was going to say minigun, but the payload would have to go WAY up to carry the ammo for even a 1 second burst.


20 posted on 03/13/2019 10:46:41 AM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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