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To: Redwood71

The hospital name meme was debunked years ago.

First, there are other Hawaiian birth certificates from the 1950s and 1960s with the same hospital name - “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital”.

Second, there are medical journals from the 1950s that reference the name - “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital”.

Third, there was a lawsuit in the 1930s involving the “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital”.


69 posted on 05/04/2019 8:05:30 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Not to start to call you a liar, but where did you get the info about any identification of the hospital called what it is on the cert prior to the late 70’s? Way too many sources don’t say that:

http://www.ini-world-report.org/2014/05/17/troubling-items-in-obama-birth-certificate/

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/04/breakingthe-hospital-name-is-wrong.html

And other sites I have seen like the actual site of the hospital we are discussing I already sent you.

But let’s take another look at the cert.

The independent Republic of Kenya was formed in 1964. It was ruled as a de facto one-party state by the Kenya African National Union (KANU), led by Jomo Kenyatta during 1963 to 1978. If you look at the cert released by the white house, it displays Kenya, East Africa as the birthplace of his father.

https://www.slideshare.net/whitehouse/birth-certificatelongform

At the time of senior Obama’s birth the area was known as the Kenyan Colony and under British control. But the locals took the area as stated above two years after our president Obama was born. That’s the reason he is a dual citizenship to the British and they have a sealed copy of his cert in their records rather than with Kenya. And if Obama’s father had been born 25 years before him, it can not identify on the cert that he was born in Kenya. Another stupid mistake when the cert was made. The Colony and Protectorate of Kenya was part of the British Empire in Africa from 1920 until 1963. It was established when the former East Africa Protectorate was transformed into a British Crown colony in 1920. Technically, the ‘Colony of Kenya’ referred to the interior lands, while a 16 km (10 mi) coastal strip (nominally on lease from the Sultan of Zanzibar) was the ‘Protectorate of Kenya’ but the two were controlled as a single administrative unit. The colony came to an end in 1963 when a black majority government was elected for the first time and eventually declared independence as Kenya. Again, two years after Obama’s birth.

Also, if you look at the signature of the person attending, the doctor block is not checked, it’s smeared like crazy. Maybe you can help me here. I can’t find any reference to the doctor, using any number of names it may be, on file anywhere in Hawaii. Who is he? It appears to be “David A. Smilan”,(edited to add) but others read it as “David A. Sinclair” although the last name is not easy to read. This appears to be in conflict with Snopes which posted a January, 2009 statement by a teacher in Hawaii, who claimed to recall a 1961 conversation with the obstetrician who delivered Obama, whom she said was Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February, 2008, age 98. She said she remembered West telling her on August 4, 1961 that “today” a baby named Barack Hussein Obama had been born to a mother named Stanley Ann Dunham and a father who was the first African student at the University of Hawaii. So why was the cert signed by the wrong doctor with a witness claiming otherwise? The cert sucks at best. And Obama should have been investigated before the election but the liberal judges bailed him out on that.

rwood


70 posted on 05/04/2019 9:14:28 AM PDT by Redwood71
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RWood, they love seeing sleuths waste their time untangling the web of untruths they've woven. It's de rigeur and standard operating procedure (SOP), "from the playbook." (You see their minions flapping about here with misdirection and insults.)

Neither Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital [KMGH] nor Queens Hospital has ever had any record of a birth for little Barry at either facility. as Governor Abercrombie found out when he attempted to fulfill a campaign promise of his by finding Barry's Long Form Birth Certificate (LFBC). The mention of KMGH on what Barry and Bob Bauer proffered on 4/27/2011 is fraudulent and forgery.

So-called "Loretta Fuddy", decades long CIA asset, supervised the production of that falsification, claiming she found it just where it was supposed to have been among the (valid) birth certificate record books. Curiously, the State Registrar Alvin Onaka, said it had been found in a different birth certificate location.

Just one of the ways Barry's LFBC is invalid is that its required mark of "AMENDED" does not appear. Once a LFBC is amended (allowed only shortly after birth without being considered AMENDED), it must bear that flag stamp ("AMENDED"). The necessity for that stamp makes the LFBC invalid for legal purposes, where it is the equivalent of hearsay.

The time of Barry's most recent amendments to his HDOH birth file (~2007) coincided with the switcheroo he made from his author claims that he was born in Kenya. If one was born in 1961 in Kenya to a Kenyan parent, one is a British subject. If one has ever been a British subject, one can never be a US natural born citizen.

Furthermore, "Loretta Fuddy", the Hawai'i Department of Health (HDOH) Director) was by all appearances (and right) unable to get Registrar Onaka to commit a criminal falsification for three requested Verifications of Barry's LFBC. The evidence shows it was likely she that completed those Verification forms in a way that rendered all three invalid. In short, the HDOH was unable to produce valid Verifications.

Orly Taitz, if she were both a competent lawyer and truly wanted to see Barry be held accountable for his fraudulent usurpation of the presidency could have used the invalid HDOH Verification to at least break wide open Barry's false LFBC on its (lack of) merits. Alas, somethings she couldn't muster, but who's to say she wasn't successful nonetheless.

During the run-up to the 2008 usurpation of the presidency, Barry and his campaign could not decide where Barry had been born. Hedging their bets (because there had never been a birth certificate up to that point with any claim of where he supposedly had been born), the diligent United Press International article writer repeated the claim he or she was told, "Honolulu's Queens Hospital." The same article also came out "corrected" from the UPI claiming he was born at "Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children." It would be ludicrous to imagine the article writer was not explicitly told "Queens" It's more than curious that the name there wasn't as it supposedly would ultimately appear on his LFBC, eh?

 

Below is the image of where little Barry was born, in Peace Arch Hospital, White Rock, B.C.

Then there's the now disappeared thank you note from Barack Obama to Queens hospital for their good care of him at his birth.... The cover-up continues:


He wasn't really born on 8/4 the 216th day of the year, but that date chosen for him by his CIA handlers (6x6x6 = 216). Haha, we're all supposed to cower at the increase in mystical power brought down by Satanists (who favor the colors black and red) to the CIA creation every time his supposed birth date would be mentioned. Knowing his birth particulars would likely be a contentious issue, they relish the mention of the 216th day of the year every time the "silly" (as Barry has often called it) issue has come up.

The long and the short is that it's just SOP for Deep State types to steep "conversation" in confusions that were set up by them and their comrades just to appear helpful while misdirecting conversations. Truth is anything but a goal for them. (See my tagline.)

72 posted on 05/04/2019 10:40:02 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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