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How Big Printer Is Trying to Crush the Counterfeit Ink Trade [HP-Epson-Canon]
onezero.medium.com ^ | 04-25-2019 | Lance Ulanoff

Posted on 05/17/2019 9:09:03 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

“In addition, the ink and toner cartridges are more than just containers—they’re complex (read: expensive) pieces of technology.”

What bunk.. If they were so complex and expensive, the knock offs would not be able to be sold so cheap either.

Reality is, they essentially give you the printer and then rape you for the ink.... charging far more than its weight in precious metals for them.


21 posted on 05/17/2019 10:31:25 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: arthurus

Exactly, I went laser years ago.. Yes the Toner carts aren’t cheap, but they last me YEARS... where the inkjet carts, even the XL’s run out in a few months at most, and I don’t print all that much.

InkJets are a scam... folks just see the $30 or $50 price tag, not realizing they are going to get nailed for that much or more every few months for ink....

Go buy the 120-150 Laser printer... toner carts print far more per replacement, even with the higher replacement cost, the cost per page is FAR FAR less... and better quality printing too.


22 posted on 05/17/2019 10:35:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger

For some of my printing, yes, yes I am....

Still have my C= 128 and C= 64 running... don’t use them much, but do use good old dot matrix with them :)


23 posted on 05/17/2019 10:36:51 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: puppypusher

They are still working off the Gillette model.. .give the razor away for cheap then charge a fortune for blades.... Not working all that well for Gillette these days either....

I agree these folks shouldn’t be claiming they are OEM cartridges when they are not... because honestly most consumer will not be brand loyal for INK... and will happily buy the no name cartridge for 1/2 or 1/3 of the cost over the OEM.


24 posted on 05/17/2019 10:39:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: puppypusher

Remember these same companies are trying to put refillers out of business (ie folks who take their empty OEM carts and just fill them back up with INK as well).


25 posted on 05/17/2019 10:40:15 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger

Black and white laser printers are the only way to go. I’m into my sixth year with an HP 400 class model. I just replaced the toner cartridge for the first time. The first one was good for over 4500 copies. With paper, that was about 2 cents a page. Ink dries out and is way, way overpriced.


26 posted on 05/17/2019 10:42:39 AM PDT by FXRP (Just me and the pygmy pony)
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To: Red Badger

Most of the new toner cartridges are rated with both a total number pages printed and an expiration date.

Let’s say the cartridge is rated at 5000 pages and you print 5000 pages, with each page having only a period on it. Your toner cartridge is still full, but it will message you that you are out of toner.

Same thing with the expiration date. Say you install a new toner cartridge print a few pages, then shut it down and the next time you use it is after the expiration date. Once past that date, you get messages to guilt you into replacing the toner cartridge.

I have a Brother laser jet at home and I like it because it will continue to print after sending you the warning message. The warning message is annoying but I keep printing until the print quality degrades and then replace the cartridge. Usually 3 or 4 months after the first warning message.


27 posted on 05/17/2019 10:45:46 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Red Badger

I utterly, unabashedly, and enthusiastically support the ink counterfeiters.


28 posted on 05/17/2019 10:53:52 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Red Badger

Printer companies make pikers like big Pharma and Lockheed-Martin blush with embarrassment.


29 posted on 05/17/2019 10:55:20 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Red Badger

Our office mimeograph is going on the fritz. What should we replace it with?


30 posted on 05/17/2019 10:56:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: HamiltonJay
I got a Brother BnW laser on my son's recommend. It is fast and seems flawless. The cartridges on Amazon are surely much cheaper to use than even the 'pirate' ink carts. I will add a color laser in a bit.
I thought about getting one of the Epsons with refillable ink reservoirs but Only one of my many inkjets got through more than one replacement color and three BnW carts before it died. I don't see any benefit in not having to replace cartridges on a machine that lasts only through a couple of them anyway.
31 posted on 05/17/2019 10:57:58 AM PDT by arthurus (f)
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To: DesertRhino

Clay Tablets and stylus?...............


32 posted on 05/17/2019 11:03:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Sans-Culotte
"I had an HP inkhet printer that I ended up throwing in the garbage because it kept saying I had non-HP ink and would not operate."

I have a Brother inkjet printer which shuts down occasionally with the message "[some color] cartridge not recognized". What it turns out to be is one of the contacts on the cartridge chip is not making good contact. Taking the cartridge out and cleaning the chip contacts with a pencil eraser always solves the problem.

33 posted on 05/17/2019 11:09:18 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Red Badger

If you want to be sure you are getting genuine printer ink cartridges buy them on eBay. No....wait....never mind!


34 posted on 05/17/2019 11:27:57 AM PDT by utax
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To: utax

Flea Markets........................


35 posted on 05/17/2019 11:32:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Paperless for the last twelve years.


36 posted on 05/17/2019 11:39:22 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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I just use a chisel, hammer and a rock..................


37 posted on 05/17/2019 11:48:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Flo-Tec toners work fine


38 posted on 05/17/2019 11:51:48 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Red Badger

Businesses are starting to use blockchain / distributed ledger technology in the supply chain to stop counterfeiting.

It may not stop the counterfeiting where the consumer is aware he or she is buying fake merchandise, but at least protects consumers from thinking they have legitimate products when they are actually fake.

To bad we haven’t figured out how to do this with Republican politicians.


39 posted on 05/17/2019 12:21:52 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: unlearner

To bad => too bad


40 posted on 05/17/2019 12:22:33 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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