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Microsoft stirs suspicions by adding telemetry files to security-only update (Win7 alert)
ZDNet ^ | July 11, 2019 | Ed Bott

Posted on 07/11/2019 8:39:22 PM PDT by dayglored

This month's Security-only update package for Windows 7 includes an unexpected compatibility/telemetry component that has some skeptical users up in arms.

As expected, Windows Update dropped off several packages of security and reliability fixes for Windows 7 earlier this week, part of the normal Patch Tuesday delivery cycle for every version of Windows. But some hawk-eyed observers noted a surprise in one of those Windows 7 packages.

Under Microsoft's rules, what it calls "Security-only updates" are supposed to include, well, only security updates, not quality fixes or diagnostic tools. Nearly three years ago, Microsoft split its monthly update packages for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 into two distinct offerings: a monthly rollup of updates and fixes and, for those who are want only those patches that are absolutely essential, a Security-only update package.

What was surprising about this month's Security-only update, formally titled the "July 9, 2019—KB4507456 (Security-only update)," is that it bundled the Compatibility Appraiser, KB2952664, which is designed to identify issues that could prevent a Windows 7 PC from updating to Windows 10.

Among the fierce corps of Windows Update skeptics, the Compatibility Appraiser tool is to be shunned aggressively. The concern is that these components are being used to prepare for another round of forced updates or to spy on individual PCs. The word telemetry appears in at least one file, and for some observers it's a short step from seemingly innocuous data collection to outright spyware.

[Lots more at the link: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-stirs-suspicions-by-adding-telemetry-files-to-security-only-update/]


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: spyware; telemetry; windows7; windowspinglist; windowsupdate
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Windows 7 die-hards (like myself) will want to peruse the ZDNet article at length (it's detailed, so I've quoted just enough above to whet your whistle). This part particularly intrigues me:
"... designed to identify issues that could prevent a Windows 7 PC from updating to Windows 10..."
Why do I get the feeling that Microsoft is preparing to FORCE-UPDATE Windows 7 machines to Windows 10?
1 posted on 07/11/2019 8:39:22 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Windows 7 Update Alert ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 07/11/2019 8:40:19 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

They can try to force the update to Windows 10. And if they brick my PC in the process, that will be the last MS-OS machine I ever own.


3 posted on 07/11/2019 8:46:42 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: dayglored; null and void

[This month’s Security-only update package for Windows 7 includes an unexpected compatibility/telemetry component that has some skeptical users up in arms.]

Don’t worry, I’m sure MS only has our best interests in mind.

Sometimes, I miss the good old days of Windows 3.1....


4 posted on 07/11/2019 8:48:23 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dayglored
which is designed to identify issues that could prevent a Windows 7 PC from updating to Windows 10.

Riigghhhttt. They who so desperately want everyone on W10 spyware. The 7 users that wanted 10 have already done so, this smacks of a backdoor way to get at the holdouts like me. I would expect a crippling "feature"embedded in there to pop up some day.

No MS W7 updates for me for several years now. No security issues either. Maybe because I do not allow MS to access my machines?

5 posted on 07/11/2019 8:48:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: dayglored

Not going to happen with my Windows 7.


6 posted on 07/11/2019 8:58:53 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Inyo-Mono

Exactly. If you plan on crapping on any of my boxes, MicroSuck, good luck. Better bring lunch.


7 posted on 07/11/2019 9:05:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SaveFerris

“”Sometimes, I miss the good old days of Windows 3.1....””

Me2!
Microsoft Works on that platform did EVERYTHING I needed to accomplish. (Sure do wish I had kept a set of disks with that program set on it)


8 posted on 07/11/2019 9:06:23 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (Jan. 20, 2017, 12:00 PM: The End of an ERROR)
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To: dayglored
Can they do that?

If they do, can we get out of it?

9 posted on 07/11/2019 9:30:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dayglored
Why do I get the feeling that Microsoft is preparing to FORCE-UPDATE Windows 7 machines to Windows 10?

Die hard Win 7 user here. I have all MSFT updates turned off. My Internet access is via Wi-Fi hotspot (cellular modem) which is turned off unless I'm using the computer.

I doubt MSFT will come calling.

10 posted on 07/11/2019 9:30:07 PM PDT by upchuck (No muzzy is fit to hold public office - their cult (religion) is incompatible with the Constitution.)
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To: dayglored

It looks like that. “We want to know if the computer can handle Windows 10, and if so, force it.”


11 posted on 07/11/2019 10:03:18 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: nopardons
> Can they do that?

Sure. They can do anything they please, as long as they have access to your computer. As long as you're connected to the internet, your computer can "phone home" and take instructions from Microsoft. That's what "Check for updates" does, for example.

> If they do, can we get out of it?

Maybe, with effort, technical tweaks, and being very, very careful about what you allow your computer to do. Otherwise, just lay back and enjoy it. :-/

12 posted on 07/11/2019 10:31:25 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: tbw2
> It looks like that. “We want to know if the computer can handle Windows 10, and if so, force it.”

They have every motivation to force Win7 users into Win10-land.

13 posted on 07/11/2019 10:32:27 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

And the days of PCTools - everybody thought it was bad - you just had to turn off the cache if you had a 2nd caching program.


14 posted on 07/11/2019 10:32:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

I may have it on an old machine - I’ve got several - no place to really set them up.


15 posted on 07/11/2019 10:33:24 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dayglored
☹️🤬☹️
16 posted on 07/11/2019 10:38:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dayglored
☹️🤬☹️
17 posted on 07/11/2019 10:38:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dayglored

I found that update,KB2952664, and uninstalled it. Won’t take any chances with it.


18 posted on 07/11/2019 11:26:40 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: dayglored; nopardons

Buy a Win7 installation DVD, Ultimate, if you want to run the full 32g of RAM.

Disable updates completely.

Download standalone Service Pack 2 to a drive and keep it on hand.

Refuse everything else.

I spent two weeks trying to figure out why my Alienware 17 R5’s screen kept dimming all the time, even though I did my own power settings.

Turns out that a little red pair of “eyes” above the keyboard was tracking my eye movements.

If I looked away for a few, it dimmed.

Killed that thing.

Wish I could install 7 on this thing but there are NO 7 drivers for any of the hardware.

Sucks.


19 posted on 07/12/2019 12:40:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Death makes angels of us all, and give us wings where we once had shoulders, smooth as ravens' claws)
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To: ducttape45

mark


20 posted on 07/12/2019 12:49:16 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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