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In era of mass murder, Warner Bros' JOKER will be too much for many
SF Gate ^ | Sep 11, 2019 | Steven Zeitchik

Posted on 09/11/2019 2:44:34 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

The film is "Joker," and while it comes in the form of a comic-book movie, it is the opposite of light. The movie focuses on the pre-Joker Arthur Fleck, circa early 1980s Gotham - a sad-sack clown slowly unraveling u At the Venice premiere, a moviegoer approached Phillips and said he thought Paris would burn as a result of the movie.

Stephanie Zacharek wrote that Phoenix's character "could easily be adopted as the patron saint of incels," referring to the "involuntary celibates" group of frustrated males whose beliefs have come up in several mass killings.

"In America, there's a mass shooting or attempted act of violence by a guy like Arthur practically every other week. And yet we're supposed to feel some sympathy for Arthur." The film "lionizes and glamorizes" the character, she wrote. She concluded that "there's a sick joke in there somewhere. Unfortunately, it's on us."

Is Phillips trying to understand his mind or glorify his thinking? Indict the mental-health system that failed him or cheer that he broke free from conventionality?

At the post-screening party Monday night, a debate broke out among journalists and industry executives over whether the movie could become part of the texts cited by potential future mass shooters...

Warner Bros is understandably eager to play down any such talk. That's in part because the current climate has led rivals to cancel movies - Universal Pictures, most recently, scrapped "The Hunt" after last month's shootings in Ohio and Texas. Any future tragedies could lead to similar pressure on Warner.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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Today especially, it's worth contemplating the state of our post 9/11 collective imagination.


1 posted on 09/11/2019 2:44:34 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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Hollywood just trying to promote more and worse crime. Glorifying that which will tear down the USA!


2 posted on 09/11/2019 2:47:50 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Is it possible that the movie could be temporarily shelved by Warner Brothers because of the current political climate?


3 posted on 09/11/2019 2:48:50 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“Era of mass murder”? What utter bilge.

The 20th Century was the “era of mass murder” (Mao, Stalin, Hitler, in that order,) thanks to the Socialism/Communism these people advocate.


4 posted on 09/11/2019 2:49:17 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The movie looks very dark, but good.
I plan to see it.


5 posted on 09/11/2019 2:49:51 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Portraying the villain as the protagonist?

What could go wrong? It’s been done ever since... Harry Potter.


6 posted on 09/11/2019 2:50:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

They’re already saying this Joker is better than even Heath Ledger Joker. No F way. Ledger IS the GOAT of Jokers.


7 posted on 09/11/2019 2:52:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I’m confused, are you calling Lord Voldemort the protagonist?


8 posted on 09/11/2019 2:53:43 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Already had a Bozo killer


9 posted on 09/11/2019 2:53:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: EEGator

“The movie looks very dark, but good.
I plan to see it.”

Likewise, although it’s hard to imagine anyone playing Joker any better than Heath Ledger.

Apparently, Phoenix has no interest in playing the character in a Batman movie, and objected to the character Thomas Wayne (Bruce’s father) appearing in the movie. The director won that argument, T. Wayne is in it.

It appears DC has given up on the idea of an extended universe. Probably a good idea since they didn’t seem to be able to get it right.


10 posted on 09/11/2019 2:55:51 PM PDT by be-baw
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Yeah this is grade ‘A’ Bull$hit.

They are playing their usual political game.


11 posted on 09/11/2019 2:56:13 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Heath Ledger is the Joker.

Leonard Nimoy is “Spock”

I won’t be seeing this most recent effort.


12 posted on 09/11/2019 2:57:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: EEGator

It might well be too much for the snowflake poofters at the SF gate


13 posted on 09/11/2019 2:58:37 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: be-baw

The previews look good. He seemed more pathetic than evil in the one I saw.
I’ll just view it as a totally separate entity.
I don’t see the need to compare/contrast Ledger v Phoenix.


14 posted on 09/11/2019 3:00:23 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’m likely not going to see this movie on opening night.

Just saying...


15 posted on 09/11/2019 3:02:01 PM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Sean Connery is James Bond.


16 posted on 09/11/2019 3:04:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Likewise, although it’s hard to imagine anyone playing Joker any better than Heath Ledger.

Did you see Phoenix in “The Master” ? If anyone can top Ledgers Joker, it would be Phoenix imo. It’s my kind of movie for sure. Kind of a “Taxi Driver “ for the 21st century. I wish people would calm down- it’s just a movie.

17 posted on 09/11/2019 3:07:28 PM PDT by atc23
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To: EEGator

Harry Potter is a sorcerer and is anti Christian. He has no redeeming qualities and represents the world devoid of Jesus. He is a villain portrayed as protagonist confusing multitudes of developing young souls


18 posted on 09/11/2019 3:08:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: dfwgator

Indeed!


19 posted on 09/11/2019 3:11:30 PM PDT by karnage
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

They don’t dare make movies about the blackest villains - collectivists who believe they can make humanity better.


20 posted on 09/11/2019 3:14:53 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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