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Jordan Peterson enters rehab after wife’s cancer diagnosis
New York Post ^ | Sept 20, 2019 | Post Staff Reporter

Posted on 09/20/2019 11:27:48 PM PDT by Jayster

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To: Kozak; dp0622
"You should never “ cold turkey” off this or any benzodiazepine...seizures."

Yes--dangerous! I've read the same at quite a few medical sites. It's all over the Net. Have a look at the withdrawal manual linked in my comment #38. I don't know whether or not it's the best, but it's something. Professor Ashton did quite a bit of research and worked with many people. Hoping all the best for you, dp0622.

41 posted on 09/21/2019 4:52:33 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: dp0622

May you have grace from above to complete your withdrawal


42 posted on 09/21/2019 5:02:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Dexter Morgan
I’ve listened to a lot of Jordan Peterson and always felt he had skeletons in his closet but unlike many people, he was able to admit to himself they were there. Attempting to exhume and properly bury these skeletons over the years has led him to the degree of self understanding that he attempts to share through his work.

He's a clinical psychologist. What you describe is common enough that it is a stereotypical snarky joke -- often made by psychologists themselves -- about people in the field. It is probably true that people are attracted to the field in the first place because they are trying to work things out, and their training reinforces the tendency. A clinician who routinely prescribes drug therapies for patients will be aware of the dangers, but he will also see such treatments as routine courses of action.

43 posted on 09/21/2019 5:13:00 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Dexter Morgan

There is no human without skeletons in the closet.

Heck, I played in rock and roll bands for 10 years . . . .


44 posted on 09/21/2019 5:14:56 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: familyop

Years ago I was prescribed Xanax for anxiety. It didn’t take away the anxiety, just made me sleepy and having 4 little kids (oldest was in kindergarten) I got even more anxious that I would fall asleep during the day and something would happen to them. I threw it out after 2 doses.

I think that my problem was not anxiety, I think that’s when I developed Grave’s Disease, but it wasn’t diagnosed for 10 years.

Now, I think I am dealing with anxiety. I wake up with terrible headaches because I clench my jaw in my sleep. I have an physical in a few weeks and was going to ask my doctor whether it’s safe to take some herbal supplements for anxiety with the blood pressure meds I’m on. I’d like to not be dealing with stress and anxiety 24 hours a day.

Thank you for sharing the information about Xanax. I will be adamant that it’s not an option for me.


45 posted on 09/21/2019 5:42:20 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: wardaddy
I’ve heard the muscle relaxer Soma is a bitch

Really? I used that for back pain and now off and on for muscle pain when I've overused a particular joint. I take it when needed and stop when it isn't needed.

46 posted on 09/21/2019 5:42:48 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: JDoutrider

4L8r


47 posted on 09/21/2019 5:48:41 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Jayster

Psych meds kill.


48 posted on 09/21/2019 6:23:10 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: YogicCowboy

Excellent post...!


49 posted on 09/21/2019 6:24:46 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: HighSierra5

“I’m beginning to see how extensive the influence of mind altering drugs are having on society. I’ve been wondering why it’s becoming more difficult to reason with certain people and watching other people on TV. I made a comment about Beto might be on some mind altering drug.”

Recently i was trying to get something across to a young rep at my insurance company.after giving up I spoke with another one. Same result

I had some success with a supervisor.

This experience is more common I am getting it into my mind to automatically get the manager

But they read from a script without listening or considering.

Sometimes I have to remind them they work for me. That’s not on their script sheet.

And they vote.


50 posted on 09/21/2019 6:26:20 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Kozak
You should never “ cold turkey” off this or any benzodiazepine. If you stop opiates abruptly you feel miserable

Yes and no. Yes, going cold turkey, suddenly stopping a medication without first consulting with a doctor can be very unpleasant at the least, and sometimes even deadly at the worst. But benzodiazepines are not opiates. It may be a distinction without a difference however in terms of their potential for addiction and withdrawal symptom for some.

51 posted on 09/21/2019 6:29:50 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: stanne

After these “mass shootings” we never get a post mortum forensic toxicology report on the shooter. Never ever. Why?


52 posted on 09/21/2019 6:30:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Meloxicam is great for my arthritis. However because several previous blood workups showed some decreased kidney function probably because of my HPB (although my last work up was normal in all respects) I’m not allowed by my doctor to take more than 1 - 2 per week. But I find that even if I only take one a week, the pain in my arthritic foot and in my knees is greatly reduced for the entire week between doses.


53 posted on 09/21/2019 6:41:54 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: central_va

Oh I do a post Morten assumption tox screen. It’s positive for some unknown pharmaceutical Pharmaceutical companies and MDs will never let you know

My view is there are several common issues. Big issue: no mom. When I worked in a trauma unit in a metro area in the ‘90s the GSW victims- gang members -were wimped out in a hospital room all hooked up. Needy. I noticed they had no men visiting. No dads, uncles, step father’s no fake uncles.

That had to be a factor in their bad choices

Now that’s the norm

But now these people have no moms. Women drop their kids somewhere as soon as the kid is six weeks

Infants need their mothers all day (or their fathers) at that age. They have no concept that they can see mom later. None

I know a grief counselor. She says the majority have unresolved grief to deal with

Antidepressants. Terri side effects.


54 posted on 09/21/2019 6:48:39 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Chickensoup

If you’re a patient in need of a caregiver but your caregiver needs a caregiver, or is somehow incapacitated, then maybe the patient needs another caregiver until the originally preferred caregiver’s issues are resolved.


55 posted on 09/21/2019 7:07:09 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Jemian
Really? I used that for back pain and now off and on for muscle pain when I've overused a particular joint. I take it when needed and stop when it isn't needed.

Different people react differently. When I went through a severe flair up of my lower back – horrible jolting nerve pain along with extreme stiffness and spasms like I’d never had before (imagine the very worst Charlie Horse you’ve ever had, the type that jolts you awake at night, now imagine that across your entire lower back and down your legs every time you make even the slightest movement and it going on for days, getting little to no sleep), yes it was that bad.

The orthopedic gave me an Rx for Percocet (1 every 6 hours) and Cyclobenzaprine – Flexeril (1 every 4 hours). No, Cyclobenzaprine is not a Benzo but can be addictive for some and of course Percocet is one of those evil opioids. But thank god for them.

After about 4 days in my living room recliner in a bit of a stupor (as getting in and out of bed or up and down the stairs to get to my bedroom was out of the question) and icing for the 1st day followed by heat after that, I could finally get up and move around without screaming in pain. And I’m fairly pain tolerant. I’ve told people that I don’t know if the Percocet really took the pain completely away or just made me not care, but in any case, I was glad it was prescribed.

After the 4th day I stopped taking the Percocet completely and only took a Flexeril or a half of one at bedtime as needed I didn’t have any withdrawal symptoms from stopping the Percocet and had no urge to take them after most of the pain subsided. I had about 4 Percocet left and they sat in my medicine cabinet untouched until they expired and I disposed of them.

A friend of my OTOH, tore her ACL in a fall and had to have surgery. Her surgeon sent her home with an RX for Percocet, the same strength and dosage and I had gotten for my back. She took the Percocet also for 4 days but had a horrible time with withdrawal symptoms, anxiety, insomnia and severe constipation being the most noticeable.

I still use the Flexeril every once and a while when I feel the stiffness and soreness and the beginning of twinges of nerve pain coming on. But the best thing I found is doing stretching, lots and lots of stretching along with walking and core stability exercises.

56 posted on 09/21/2019 7:11:25 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Who’s taking care of the wife? Is this an excuse so he won’t have to?


57 posted on 09/21/2019 7:19:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: MD Expat in PA

The risk for stopping benzodiazepines cold turkey is seizures. Similar to DT’s. Unless you are on a low dose, stopping cold Turkey is always dangerous.


58 posted on 09/21/2019 7:25:47 AM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: Jayster
Prayers for Mr Peterson 🙏🏻
59 posted on 09/21/2019 7:27:51 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: rmichaelj

Yes, and that is why I and I also recommend to others that they get their medical advise from competent and well qualified medical professional and not from random people on the world wide interwebs or from people with blogs or pod casts : )


60 posted on 09/21/2019 7:39:27 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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