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50 years ago today, the internet was born in Room 3420
Fast Company ^ | 29 October 2019 | Mark Sullivan

Posted on 10/29/2019 8:08:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 10/29/2019 8:08:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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Tech Ping


2 posted on 10/29/2019 8:09:27 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I didn’t see Algore or Brian Williams in any of those pictures


3 posted on 10/29/2019 8:11:32 AM PDT by digger48
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To: ShadowAce

And the first Internet Pr0n video was created.


4 posted on 10/29/2019 8:12:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Heeeeyyyyyyy, where’s the picture of Al Gore?


5 posted on 10/29/2019 8:12:16 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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I had to reboot before I could read the entire article.......


6 posted on 10/29/2019 8:13:15 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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HOLD ON!!!! Why do I see no pictures of Al Gore?


7 posted on 10/29/2019 8:16:15 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: digger48

“You didn’t build that” BHO
Algore did. AG


8 posted on 10/29/2019 8:18:37 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: digger48

post 2— my exact question too.


9 posted on 10/29/2019 8:24:11 AM PDT by ptsal
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Too busy in the background claiming they invented it.


10 posted on 10/29/2019 8:26:05 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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a teletype over a phone line is more like morse code on a telegraph line (century old technology) than it is like the modern internet. I suppose if the signal were ‘digital’ then that is the transformative key, but there is a reason that even the guys who did it at the time didn’t make much of it. The concept was not as novel as we view it in hind sight. It’s just like the idea of cell phones was not that crazy. People had been using two way radios and relays for a long time. Again, it’s more about the complexity of how traffic is routed that transformed things, and digital packeting of data is how that was accomplished


11 posted on 10/29/2019 8:32:18 AM PDT by z3n
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By the mid-1960s, ARPA had provided funding for large computers used by researchers in universities and think tanks around the country. The ARPA official in charge of the financing was Bob Taylor, the key figure in computing history who later ran Xerox’s PARC lab. At ARPA, he had become painfully aware that all those computers spoke different languages and couldn’t talk to each other.

Taylor hated the fact that he had to have separate terminals—each with its own leased communication line—to connect with various remote research computers. His office was full of Teletypes.

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Necessity is the mother of the Internet.


12 posted on 10/29/2019 8:33:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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My first email address ended in dot arpa. I also had to use some bang paths and relays to send mail outside of ARPANET.


13 posted on 10/29/2019 8:33:43 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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This is untrue. Al Gore grew up in the Fairfax hotel in DC as a child. Wrong room number.


14 posted on 10/29/2019 8:37:33 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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I didn’t see Algore or Brian Williams in any of those pictures

me neither. I'm calling Fake news
15 posted on 10/29/2019 8:43:46 AM PDT by Karma_Sherab
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This article brought back memories. Back about 1985 I worked for University of Dayton, after retiring from the Air Force. A friend at New Jersey Institute of Technology got a grant to set up a "computer conferencing" system, that would allow people at different locations to communicate in real time via teletype keyboards. He invited me to join the system. For the next several years we experimented with it, jointly writing technical papers with others on the system, teaching on-line courses, and similar academic activities. Eventually the Internet made the system obsolete. We all abandoned it and switched to the Internet. However, for many of us it was a prototype for the Internet. Since then I've used the Internet for a wide range of things. While I was a visiting professor in Turkey, I kept up with Free Republic via the Internet. I even met the woman who is now my wife on catholicsingles.com. The Internet and it's predecesors have made a big difference in my life.
16 posted on 10/29/2019 8:52:30 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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But something monumental happened there 50 years ago today. A graduate student named Charley Kline sat at an ITT Teletype terminal and sent the first digital data transmission to Bill Duvall, a scientist who was sitting at another computer at the Stanford Research Institute (now known as SRI International) on the other side of California.

If I recall the story correctly, this first file transfer was using the 'uucp' program, which is still a part of any basic Unix installation. I could well be wrong, and I'm sure some intrepid Freeper will correct the record if so. :-)

It does bring to mind something I did many years ago before we really had decent ways to clone disks across a network though. I needed a clone of a boot disk which existed in Dallas, to be created in California. We could have duplicated the disk locally and mailed it, but didn't want to take the time for that. Instead, we booted the Dallas system from media so the boot disk didn't have anything writing to it. Did the same thing for the target system in CA. Then we executed something very similar to the following...

On the target system:
nc -p 2222 | dd of=/dev/disk1

On the source system:
dd if=/dev/disk1 | nc -p 2222

(I'm quite sure I've forgotten additional switches employed) What that essentially did was use 'dd' (also known as "Disk Destroyer) to copy the boot disk byte by byte across the network using nc (or netcat), which was received by 'nc' on the target system and then written out byte by byte to the disk by 'dd'.

Once completed, we ran 'dd if=/dev/disk1 | cksum' on each system and compared the results to validate that no errors occurred during transmission. Then we mounted the target disk, modified it's network config files, and rebooted the system into service.

It was an elegant solution to the problem IMO that was very satisfying to me as it saved us time, and yet solved the problem. We ended up using that a couple of other times, and only had to restart the process once because of transmission errors.

17 posted on 10/29/2019 9:37:52 AM PDT by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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Yeah, shoulda read the article first. They weren’t talking about actual file transfers. It was just the initial connectivity. Bad zeugma for posting before reading.


18 posted on 10/29/2019 9:51:13 AM PDT by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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The writers of The Rockford Files were onto the dark side of the Web by 1978. In series 4 episode 22 Jackie Cooper is a guy collecting data on Americans from existing data bases for the purpose of having a dossier on everybody and selling the result. Geez, all he had to do was call it Google.


19 posted on 10/29/2019 10:02:31 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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...a teletype over a phone line is more like morse code on a telegraph line (century old technology) than it is like the modern internet.

True, I remember using a teletype for weather and news at the radio station I worked for decades ago.

20 posted on 10/29/2019 11:14:19 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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