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Microsoft's Windows 10 November Update is borking File Explorer (Win10 Update does it again)
The Inquirer ^ | Nov 26, 2019 | Chris Merriman

Posted on 11/26/2019 7:31:39 PM PST by dayglored

Absolutely, definitely a complete surprise

DYKE-PLUGGING SOFTWARE BORKER Microsoft has done it again.

The company released the November 2019 Update to Windows 10 earlier this month and lo and behold, there's a problem.

Windows updates have become a running joke since before the legendary Build 1809 debacle which saw the company actively roll back the update.

This time, the problem is reasonably fundamental - File Explorer searches are broken in the 1909 build.

The more eagle-eyed amongst you will know that one of the few features in this latest update is…. better searching in File Explorer. The idea was that it would gain many of the powers of Windows Search - allowing you to check your OneDrive and the like with one search string.

In reality, it appears to be doing a lot of, well, freezing, then hanging.

This is pretty basic stuff and for a feature that is actually singled out for mention in the new release to be so broken highlights, once again, that the company's testing processes are simply not up to the task.

With no disrespect to the Insider Community (Microsoft's name for its beta testing team), this should surely have been spotted there, and so either Microsoft needs to be a lot clearer as to what needs testing, or it needs to actually start listening to the feedback it gets from them.

What's even more galling, perhaps, is that Build 1909 isn't actually a new build at all - commentators have likened it more to a Service Pack for Build 1903.

As such, the chances of anything being so showstopping as this was greatly reduced, and yet, here we are.

Add to that the fact that it has already been blocked from installation for several groups including those working with certain WiFi/Bluetooth modules, and anyone running a slightly older version of AVG or Avast, and Microsoft's 'safe' mini-update is highlighting just how poor the testing process really is. μ


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: fileexplorer; microsoft; onedrive; windows; windows10; windowspinglist; windowsupdate
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The Inquirer rips Windows Update a new one.

And for those wondering, "DYKE" is British for "DIKE", sort of like they spell "TYRE" for "TIRE".

1 posted on 11/26/2019 7:31:39 PM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Windows 10 Update does it again... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 11/26/2019 7:32:10 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

Windows 10 users must be masochists.


3 posted on 11/26/2019 7:36:25 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: dayglored

I got a little utility called “Everything” that indexes the whole drive and works very nicely.

But keep plugging those dykes, M$...


4 posted on 11/26/2019 7:36:33 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: dayglored

Normal people are getting very tyred of dikes.


5 posted on 11/26/2019 7:37:54 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
> Windows 10 users must be masochists.

I knew a guy years ago, who went from one psycho girlfriend to another, time after time. He couldn't catch a break.

I asked him, "Why do you do this? Every woman you think is great, turns out to be psychotic!"

He said, "Yeah, but I have faith. Surely the next one will be nice."

Microsoft Windows fans are kinda like that.

I use Windows a lot; I have since the late 1980's. But I don't pretend for a minute that it's not basically a psycho girlfriend in a box.

6 posted on 11/26/2019 7:42:29 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

I HATE the way Microsoft is forcing One Drive and Microsoft accounts on everybody. This forced integration creates new problems and security risks.


7 posted on 11/26/2019 7:43:06 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana
That's happening in the government too. Air Force users are now being forced to use OneDrive and MicroThief accounts, thereby storing all of our data in the Cloud. I absolutely refuse to do that, storing all of my data locally are on a networked drive local to the base.

I keep warning people none of what MicroThief is offering is safe but they don't listen.

8 posted on 11/26/2019 7:50:17 PM PST by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: dayglored
My current version of Windows 10 seems to already have that problem. In trying to recreate the list of Recent files it takes longer and longer. I believe this is because some of the files in Recent are no longer located where they once were. This causes File Explorer to hang as it waits a minute or so for each missing file to somehow magically appear.

I had to clear out all my Recent files in order to get File Explorer to stop being dodgy.

I noticed similar locking after our Sys Admins moved some major network shares around and File Explorer hung trying to locate the missing/renamed shares.

I'm sure there's some sort of timeout value I could potentially alter in the ocean referred to as the Registry, but I don't have time to look for something that my company may have locked down through policy.

9 posted on 11/26/2019 7:59:41 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

And many of those timeouts are hard-coded into the operating system functions. Even the Registry can’t touch them.


10 posted on 11/26/2019 8:01:23 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored
When I think of switching to Apple, I just watch a Louis Rossman YouTube video and am content to stick with my crazy Windows girlfriend.

And no, I'm not going to the pseudo-commie SJW world of Linux. It was fine a while ago, but it now seems to be going up in flames.

11 posted on 11/26/2019 8:03:12 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dayglored

I’ve never had so much trouble with my computer. Lots of crashes.
I think it is not only Windows update that is funky
but Chrome updates have issues as well.

I’ve been taking screenshots of the error messages
in order to take them to someone versed in Windows and Chrome.


12 posted on 11/26/2019 8:14:47 PM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal (NorthernSentinel))
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To: dayglored; who_would_fardels_bear
Check out Astrogrep.

Heard about it on a forum for professional novel writers. Apparently, they have hundreds and thousands of iterations of the same files, and need to find certain words or phrases without the overhead of MS indexing.

A Windows File Searching Utility (grep)

https://sourceforge.net/projects/astrogrep/files/

I've used it a few times, and it smokes.

13 posted on 11/26/2019 8:16:16 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: dayglored
l - File Explorer searches are broken in the 1909 build.

Link adds not details to the assertion. I just updated to ver. 1909 (Run winver to see) and so far all is fine, thank God.

14 posted on 11/26/2019 8:23:48 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: dayglored

Windows 98 file search worked far better than Windows 10 ever did.


15 posted on 11/26/2019 9:15:03 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Life in the simple days. :-)


16 posted on 11/26/2019 9:24:02 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: Revel

MS has never equaled the utility included with Norton Desktop for Windows 3.1.

They’ve been trying since Win 95, but have never succeeded.


17 posted on 11/26/2019 9:32:42 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dayglored

Windows 10 also borks Virtualization systems such as Oracle’s VirtualBox.

Such systems use Hardware Virtualization, which is built-in to most modern CPUs. I think for Intel, it’s VM-x and for AMD it’s AMD-v. I might be wrong with the acronyms.

Microsoft replaces the built-in capability with its own crappy “Hyper-v,” which immediatly disables VirtualBox and others. (I think VMWare is also a casualty, not sure.)


18 posted on 11/27/2019 2:00:50 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ( Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
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19 posted on 11/27/2019 2:12:07 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ( Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Re: "I HATE the way Microsoft is forcing One Drive and Microsoft accounts on everybody."

I disagree.

One Drive is completely optional - use it, or ignore it.

My Microsoft account is great.

I can log in on any device in the world, and my desk top, my Favorites, my Hotmail, my Apps, and my documents appear and work exactly the same everywhere.

Maybe advanced computer users have a legitimate reason to hate Microsoft.

I'm a completely average user, and Windows and the Microsoft browser have worked out fine for me for the last 22 years.

20 posted on 11/27/2019 2:52:44 AM PST by zeestephen
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