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An Intriguing Experience
Self | 12/28/19 | Self

Posted on 12/28/2019 3:44:38 PM PST by Gay State Conservative

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To: Gay State Conservative
"And BTW...you leave my backside out of this! Understood? ;-)"

You've never mooned anyone? It can be very cathartic!

61 posted on 12/29/2019 4:48:47 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: BobL

Speaking of Orion, Betelgeuse is dimming to a level never previously seen. It is a variable star but, it has never fainted to this degree. Supernova is not out of the question.

” If it sat where the sun does, it would swallow all the inner planets, including Earth, Mars and even Jupiter. It’s also about 14,000 times more luminous than our comparatively small star.” When it does collapse it will be as bright as the moon. https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/betelgeuse-dimming-1.5407038


62 posted on 12/29/2019 4:58:40 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: eartick

I had the first ever GPS! (A gray plastic sextant made by Davis instruments.)
I too toyed with CN and could shoot a sunsight, but my first time offshore I had a hard time sorting out what was what. My familiar sky was suddenly way too busy with all this stuff that wasn’t there before. In the old days one could sail North or South and line up with a latitude star that was in the ballpark of your destination then keep it overhead as you pointed the boat left or right. Here is a navigational star chart. (link only/too big)

https://www.physast.uga.edu/~rls/1010/chs1/BERNARDS_star_chart_ORIG.jpg


63 posted on 12/29/2019 5:10:47 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Rockingham; Gay State Conservative
It could be a star, a planet, an airplane, a meteorite, or even a satellite. I have been fooled by all of them into thinking I had seen something unexplained. The key is to keep looking and do your research.

Stars tend to twinkle - planets do not typically twinkle unless under certain atmospheric conditions – haze, high humidity, but will usually appear as a bright and steady light, brighter than any stars. And neither stars or planets move perceptively, at least not to the human eye over a relatively short time span of normal observation and they will seem to be stationary in sky in relation to other celestial objects. An airplane or satellite will move. An airplane can seem to be stationary for a time if you and the airplane are in the right position with the airplane flying directly toward your viewing perspective but will eventually move and more rapidly the closer it gets toward or away from your line of sight (if that makes sense).

As for a meteorite – there’s no way to mistake that for either a star, a planet, an airplane or a satellite or for anything else as it moves rapidly across the sky, sometimes with a tail and sometimes breaking apart into several smaller fireballs, sometimes appearing white, orange or green.

I had just finished the 2nd grade in the early summer of 1969 in Camp Hill, PA. It was a beautiful clear, warm not yet hot or muggy night in early June and my best friend Kay who lived a few houses away and I were playing in my back yard, well after sunset while my mother was sitting on the back patio reading a magazine under the back porch light, keeping an eye out on us.

We had been chasing and catching fireflies but then started playing, as best as I can remember “Cat Women from Mars”; pretending we were astronauts landing on a strange planet (the back yard) inhabited by “Cat Women” and fighting them with our pretend “phasers” (wooden sticks) and capturing them (fireflies) in our force fields (pickle jars). “Pwew! Pwew! Pwew!” Running around and having great fun playing in the dark, a rare treat.

You’ve also got to keep in mind that the Apollo missions were in full swing and Apollo 11 was launching that July and my whole family but especially my dad and I were very much into watching all the launches and following all the coverage quite intently.

I had a complete model Apollo 11 craft including a lunar lander that IIRC came in a box of Captain Crunch cereal and a lunar map from a National Geographic and a world map and I used to play and “practice” launches from Cape Canaveral and Moon landings and splash downs in the Pacific using the ships from my brother’s Battle Ship game as the recovery ships, mimicking what I’d seen with earlier Apollo missions on TV and what Apollo 11 was expected to do. And our family were also fans of both Star Trek and the Batman TV shows. As a result, I had both a keen scientific interest and a very vivid imagination.

As Kay and I were battling the “Cat Women from Mars”, all of a sudden the ground lit up as bright as if it was daytime and as I looked up I saw the most amazing sight.

A blue-green sort of turquoise colored ball of the most intense color and brilliance, a color I can still vividly remember all these years later but have never quite seen before or since - a color I know in my mind’s eye but have never been able to quite describe or point out as being the exact same color, with a tail of silver, sort of like a stream of silver colored sparklers streaming behind it. It was there and gone in a flash but for a brief moment I saw it. I was both awed and scared out of my wits. And then there was the sound - a whistling sort of screaming sound as it passed by right over our heads.

My mom saw too and jumped out of her chair on the patio, her magazine and glass of ice tea falling to the ground.

My older brother had been in his room listening to a baseball game on his transistor radio and saw the bright flash of light and came out side, to the back patio to see if we, my mother and I had seen it too.

Kay and I thought it might actually be the “real” “Cat Women from Mars”, but my mom and older brother had more serious concerns being this was the Cold War era, could it have been a Russkie rocket, a Nuke?

My mom was concerned enough to wake up my dad, my dad working a construction job that got him up a 4AM and to bed very early. Meanwhile my brother scanned all the AM radio station for any news. By now my friend Kay was in tears.

When my dad, after being woken up, was told what we saw, he said “You saw a meteorite, congratulations and I’m sorry I missed it but I’m going back to sleep now”. And he did.

My brother walked my friend Kay home and when he returned, found a local AM radio talk/news station that was reporting the strange sighting coming in to them from listener’s phone calls to the station.

The next day some local astronomers confirmed it was indeed a meteorite. While it appeared big and brilliant, by the time it flew over our house, it was probably quite small, the size of a baseball or even much smaller, as small as a marble perhaps, likely iron-nickel in composition hence the blue-green color and appeared to have last been seen near Peter’s Mountain north of Harrisburg and west of Fort Indian Town Gap, either having burned up completely before hitting the ground or being so small as to not leave a crater and still to this day, yet to be found.

It was the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen.

About two years ago I did see a fireball meteor as I was coming home late from work one night. It was quite a distance away, just above the horizon, big white ball and tail that broke up into about 3 or 4 pieces before disintegrating. Beautiful, but not as beautiful as the “Cat Women from Mars” meteor.

64 posted on 12/29/2019 6:49:46 AM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: outofsalt

Yea, I read that too about Betelgeuse dimming.

At 600 light years from Earth, and considering that it is a super-giant, it might be a bit more than just a cute light show if it blows its top.


65 posted on 12/29/2019 8:00:50 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Coming home from WV one night I saw a MASSIVE multi-colored, sparkler of a fireball soar across the sky and right over I81.

It was gorgeous and outrageous but not one other car driver seemed to have seen it.

Not even a flicker of brake lights from hundreds of cars.

People just don’t pay attention.


66 posted on 12/29/2019 9:35:54 AM PST by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: Rockingham

Bless you for not calling me crazy, first off.

:)

At no point did I start humming the X-Files theme to myself as I figured it was something we have that we don’t know we have.

Which is a good thing because there I stood, out in the open, a prime target for “abduction”.

:D

I always wonder if the pilot, if he actually saw me, did he laugh when I waved hello?


67 posted on 12/29/2019 9:39:17 AM PST by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: MD Expat in PA
Your analysis and personal account provide good reasons why most unexplained lights and mysterious things in the sky are normal and not genuinely mysterious. Yet some sightings are unexplained in spite of trained, professional observers, high quality photos or video, and the resources and incentives for official investigation. The recently released US Navy videos and pilot interviews are stunning proof that some very real things in our skies remain unexplained.
68 posted on 12/29/2019 12:53:36 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Salamander
John, a now-deceased friend of mine was involved with military intelligence and scientists at a high level for most of his life. He was a UFO skeptic but his wife Sue, whom I also knew, was a believer. Gradually, he became less of a skeptic because of what he heard from his official associates.

Then, one day I got a call from John telling me that he had learned that a major UFO flap had occurred in the Phoenix area where he had visited Sandia National Labs on business and was about to go public nationally in USA Today and on the major TV networks. John had been utterly gob-smacked that the scientists and ranking government officials he had met with believed that the black triangle that had been seen and videoed over Phoenix was real and not of our world. The UFO flap John told me was coming is generally known as "the Phoenix lights."

So, when you talk of seeing a black triangle, you are in good company. Unofficially, the US government is a believer.

69 posted on 12/29/2019 1:16:04 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Good to know.

I just thought it was a WAY cool thing to see.

:)


70 posted on 12/29/2019 7:17:25 PM PST by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Yes, Cam Đức, Khánh Hòa. In 2003 it as a small very poor highway town. The electricity was "hệt điện" - out more than it it was working. Nights it was generally out and there was no groundlight obscuring the sky. it was like being in the desert in Nevada without all the UFOs. Now it is a large relatively prosperous highway town with probably twelve times the population and electricity more reliable than in my hometown in Florida.
71 posted on 12/30/2019 3:57:12 PM PST by ThanhPhero
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